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TDR is right, the man that did mine said "you will be looked at harder".

If you have to use your pistol and it is not the one the you took the class with.

I dont carry the pistol O used in class.

Some in my class rented pistols that day.

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TDR is right, the man that did mine said "you will be looked at harder".
If you have to use your pistol and it is not the one the you took the class with.
I dont carry the pistol O used in class.
Some in my class rented pistols that day.

Looked at Harder? I have heard some odd things from speaking with people one even said that their instructor said that he discourages people from practicing at longer ranges????? Yeah I get some. May not want some people to think 30 yards is a good distance to practice at but really when did being competent become a bad thing. My wife does not qualify for an exemption so she will have to take a course; I may tag along with her just because. Edited by wcd
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My instructor said might want to not shoot a perfect score, which is very easy by the way. Reasoning was if you had to use your weapon DA might ask why you didnt just shoot him in the arm, etc to disarm him since your such a crack shot and had a perfecr score on your exam.

I still kept all mine in the x

Edit: oh and the gun i qualified with has long since been traded. Most had target .22s that they qualified with anyways. I have heard to use the largest caliber you might carry.

Maybe he was confused with armed guard cert. You do have to qualify with each individual weapon you carry for armed guard. Edited by nightrunner
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Our local range said the same thing but that way they get to charge you $10 to add another gun to your qualification. They said I can come back at any time

and add whatever gun by shooting it. 

 

I don't believe, nor did they ever say it in their own classes, that anyone has to amend the type of weapon they carry and they spent an awful amount of

time going over all the laws of the state. 

 

I believe if you discharge any weapon in an incident that you will be looked at harder.

 

Lp

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My instructor said might want to not shoot a perfect score, which is very easy by the way. Reasoning was if you had to use your weapon DA might ask why you didn't just shoot him in the arm, etc to disarm him since your such a crack shot and had a perfect score on your exam.

 

Ok first off I am not a TN resident just yet so I don't yet fully know or understand your laws but what does seem to be common is that instructors in different states do have a very common trait and that trait is that they talk out of their bum and don't know WTF they are talking about as that comment is one of the dumbest statements I've heard to date....

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Ok was talking with a guy at a cell phone store. Who said if you have a HCP you have to register the side arm you will be carrying?

 

Some states do have a requirement that you qualify with any and all weapons that you intend to carry; CA is the only one that I know of as I've a friend who lives somewhere in CA and he had to show proficiency in each weapon he intended to carry under his permit.

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The OP shows a "northern Indiana" location.  HCP regulations vary widely by state.  The law there is not the law in Tennessee.  I'm not aware of any requirements, except for the initial background check, etc. when buying through an FFL or Class 3 items, to "register" any gun in Tennessee. Like Nightrunner said, you see a lot of .22 target pistols used to qualify.

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The OP shows a "northern Indiana" location.  HCP regulations vary widely by state.  The law there is not the law in Tennessee.  I'm not aware of any requirements, except for the initial background check, etc. when buying through an FFL or Class 3 items, to "register" any gun in Tennessee. Like Nightrunner said, you see a lot of .22 target pistols used to qualify.

 

Indiana has no such regulation and in fact has one of the easiest permit systems to be found in that you can get a "Lifetime" permit for something like 60.00 dollars and no live fire or classroom requirements; but 23 states do not recognize the IN permit either.

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Well, I have never heard any laws or rules on registering any guns carry or not carrying in Tennessee. I could have shot 100% very easily when I was shooting in the class to get my HCP but I placed 1 round outside and shot 98%. I also heard about the shooting expert to get your carry permit so I shot 98% and place 1 Lawyers bullet outside the profile. That way no DA can challenge my shooting as expert and it gives my lawyer that defense. GOD knows I hope it is never needed..........................jmho

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Back in the dark ages when I took my class with Buford Tune, we were told that it would be best to qualify with what we intended to carry; be it 22,38, 45, etc.

 

And it was said that we could "recertify" with an additional caliber should we choose. But it wasn't a law or requirement.

 

And this was just after the "Must be bonded to carry" was rescinded. So you know that's been quite a while back....25 years or so?

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I didn't realize the OP resides in Indiana. I assumed he was inquiring about the laws in Tennessee. I am not familiar enough with the laws in Indiana, so I am not sure if that is a requirement or not.


We are moving to TN next week
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Initially, which has been a very long time ago in Tennessee, they recorded the firearm you used to qualify. I cannot remember if you were required to carry that gun or not but now they do not record the firearm used so they have no way of knowing what gun you qualified with. I have heard of some instructors keeping targets as "proof" of you ability but it is not a requirement either. My wife was able to bring her target home.

 

There are minimum training standards and it seems as though a lot of instructors are going well beyond the minimum. Mine was extremely bare bones while I have talked to others who had all kinds of "tactical" scenarios as well as stuff they just plain didn't need. It was almost like the instructors picked something they were really good at and had the class do the same so the instructor could show off.

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TDR is right, the man that did mine said "you will be looked at harder".

If you have to use your pistol and it is not the one the you took the class with.

I dont carry the pistol O used in class.

Some in my class rented pistols that day.

 

As stated above, TN has no gun registry. Whe I took my HCP course we were never asked what type of pistol we were using or the serial number so there's no record of what pistol I used to qualify with. If a carry course were to ask me to list my handgun & serial number I think I would find a different class. In TN your handgun is considered private property & you're not required to give out that information.

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Ok was talking with a guy at a cell phone store. Who said if you have a HCP you have to register the side arm you will be carrying?

I wouldn't want to depend on the guy at a cell phone store for HCP information or medical advice, even if he had stayed at a Holiday Inn.  A quick check of TN laws shows you can carry the weapon of your choice with a HCP.

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Back in the dark ages when I took my class with Buford Tune, we were told that it would be best to qualify with what we intended to carry; be it 22,38, 45, etc.

And it was said that we could "recertify" with an additional caliber should we choose. But it wasn't a law or requirement.

And this was just after the "Must be bonded to carry" was rescinded. So you know that's been quite a while back....25 years or so?


Not quite that long. Mid nineties, sometime.

Buford Tune. Heh, that's where my wife and I went in '98. What a character.

Yeah, he recommended that everyone recertify with everything they might carry. Good way to make extra money, I guess.
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Permit courses are nothing but corporate welfare for ranges and instructors who provide no value add to the process what so ever. There is no indication that the course does anything to make people more safe nor to act as a legitimate barrier to prevent undesirable persons from getting a permit.

It does on the other hand create a barrier for poor and working class law abiding citizens from getting a permit to protect themselves and their families.
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Doesn't matter what gun you qualify with, you can carry whatever you want, even multiple guns (as long as they're legal of course). And as for the not shooting perfectly, my instructor simply gave us pass or fail, didn't mark down anything about where the shots hit, so I'm not sure where that came from. Even if it were true, shooting in a range and shooting in self defense is COMPLETELY two different things, so that's a moot point. 

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