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DaveTN Postus Maximus

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So if he shows a badge, and makes a "law comment or judgement" about what he sees, would he not be representing himself as a LEO?

It generally requires intent. There is no law that a HCP holder couldn’t ask to see if your weapon was unloaded, or if it is illegal (stupidity is not illegal). It would be illegal if that person did something to make you think they are a Police Officer and you are compelled to comply. Seeing a badge and assuming they are a cop is not enough. If you ask them if they are a Police Officer and they say yes; that’s a crime (if they aren’t).
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Dolomite_supafly
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I wonder if it was the person who took the badge out of the benefactor box? :)

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So something for odd just happened. I was eating lunch in my truck at McDonald's and a car pulled in next to me. A gentleman stepped out and looked in my window and saw the rifle case in my sest. He w

mikegideon
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I should have laughed in his face when he produced that badge, and then told him to kiss your burly ass.

DaveTN Postus Maximus

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Badges are for sissies. I always wear my sash.

I could not keep from laughing out loud if I ever saw that. rollfloor.gif Edited by DaveTN
Dolomite_supafly Postus Maximus

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It generally requires intent. There is no law that a HCP holder couldn’t ask to see if your weapon was unloaded, or if it is illegal (stupidity is not illegal). It would be illegal if that person did something to make you think they are a Police Officer and you are compelled to comply. Seeing a badge and assuming they are a cop is not enough. If you ask them if they are a Police Officer and they say yes; that’s a crime (if they aren’t).

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I ask people all the time what they are doing on my road and if it sounds sketchy I ask if they have an ID. There is no law that says I cannot ask but I cannot force them to produce an ID. They can tell me to F'off too but the whole point of me asking is so they know someone is aware of their presence.

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Raoul Postus Maximus

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I ask people all the time what they are doing on my road and if it sounds sketchy I ask if they have an ID. There is no law that says I cannot ask but I cannot force them to produce an ID. They can tell me to F'off too but the whole point of me asking is so they know someone is aware of their presence.

 

 

Yeah I'm that guy too.

Guest Lester Weevils

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Badges are for sissies. I always wear my sash.


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He is wearing it wrong anyway. It should go the other way so it doesn't obstruct a draw.

Not only that, but it says concealed carry, when plainly the fella is open carrying.
TrickyNicky Prolific Contributor

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Ok I think the CCW sash just replaced Mora knives as my "oh hell I don't know what else to buy" all purpose "gift" for TGO secret Santa.
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monkeylizard Postus Maximus

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He is wearing it wrong anyway. It should go the other way so it doesn't obstruct a draw.

Not only that, but it says concealed carry, when plainly the fella is open carrying.

 

No, the sash conceals the firearm. This way it works whether you're wearing a shirt or not.

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Badges are for sissies. I always wear my sash.


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Styling and profiling

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DaveTN Postus Maximus

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Oh, it just occurs to me... With respect to the title of this thread, cops are civilians too.

Not really.
 

From Wikipedia:
A civilian under international humanitarian law (also known as the laws of war) is a person who is not a member of his or her country's armed forces or other militia. Civilians are distinct from combatants. They are afforded a degree of legal protection from the effects of war and military occupation. In U.S. parlance, a civilian is also considered one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force.

 
 

From Merriam Webster:
ci•vil•ian
noun \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\
: a person who is not a member of the military or of a police or firefighting force
Full Definition of CIVILIAN
1
: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law
2
a : one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force

Spots Prolific Contributor

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[quote name="tnguy" post="1087550" timestamp="1388604907"]Oh, it just occurs to me... With respect to the title of this thread, cops are civilians too.[/quote] Well, they are civil servants. They are civilians in the military sense to a point, but even overseas we had 3 groups. U.S military, foreign military and police, and civilians. I don't view them as civilians because right or wrong, they have different rules that govern their conduct and what they are allowed to do. Tapatalk ate my spelling.
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Cherokee Slim Established Contributor

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and do not cops/LEO formally swear in to their duties?  (maybe not....just wondering)

 I did. All LEOs and military take an oath of office. On loan once as a Trooper I even had to take another one for the Marshal Service.  CS

tnguy Prolific Contributor

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Not really.
 
 
 

 

 

OK, I concede. Should remember not to believe everything I read.

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Clod Stomper Prolific Contributor

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and do not cops/LEO formally swear in to their duties?  (maybe not....just wondering)

 

They do, but I don't think that's the factor.  Civilian federal employees do too.  At least I did.  Each time I got a new position.

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