Phil removed from Duck Dynasty...

[daddyo]

Also this...

"Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don't have to compromise convictions to be compassionate." - Rick Warren

Edited December 20, 2013 by daddyo

[56FordGuy]

[quote name="Luke E." post="1081353" timestamp="1387483200"]But the bible is very clear on some things and homosexuality is one of those many so there's really no room for interpretations unless you are willing to make the conscious decision that you know better than God. [/quote] Are you sure about that? www.gaychristian.net Just saying, not as cut and dried as some like to believe it is.

[79troublehead]

All I got to say is I've never seen a pair of chaps WITH an ass in them. (although I've seen a bunch of asses in chaps.

[shortround]

Also this...

"Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don't have to compromise convictions to be compassionate." - Phil Robertson

 

I think Rick Warren said that.

[RobertNashville]

Also this...

"Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle, you must fear or hate them." - Phil Robertson

Very true but that doesn't mean that people don't both disagree with AND hate the homosexual and the lifestyle concurrently.

[Wiljo05]

It seems Christians are one of the few that don't get to take advantage of that....oh what is it, oh yeah the Freedom of Speech. Seems religious persecution is alive and well.

[runco]

Though I support Phil and his beliefs, but sometimes its more about winning souls for the kingdom, then becoming a lightning rod though he is 100% spot on. Now if Phil is banned, or he has quit, it is sad he will not have that specific tv platform to reach millions with his public display of family and his display of the teachings of Jesus. I am quite sure Mr. Billy Graham believes has Phil does, and would be very much be vocal like Phil if pushed into a corner, but Mr. Graham kept his focus on one mission and that is Jesus Christ, and what Jesus Christ did for mankind.

One more point and I done with this thread, God owes an apology to people of Sodom and Gomarrah for the way society is today, unless He has something big in the near future for mankind. Hmmmm..... And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. (Luke 17:26). People wake up.

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[TrickyNicky]

Saw this on Facebook today:
"Man on TV disagrees with LGBT lifestyle - the left explodes with indignation. Islamic world subjects gays to violent murder just for being gay - silence.
I think we've found the double standard."
That about sums it up.

And there it is ladies and gentlemen, the common ground.

Your 100% on the ball with this Daddyo, the silence in regard to the homophobic view points in the Islamic faith is BS. We should be calling them on their BS just as loudly as we do the Christians.

IMO neither side is on the side of right, but to go after one and not the other is also wrong.

[shortround]

Very true but that doesn't mean that people don't both disagree with AND hate the homosexual and the lifestyle concurrently.

 

In the original context of that quote, Rick Warren was calling out Christians, basically saying they should learn to love and have compassion for those they disagree with. He was talking about Muslims, btw.

Edited December 19, 2013 by shortround

[daddyo]

I think Rick Warren said that.

I stand corrected.

[daddyo]

Very true but that doesn't mean that people don't both disagree with AND hate the homosexual and the lifestyle concurrently.

What does that have to do with the quote?

[NoBanStan]

OP here. 

 

9:52pm: Post story about Phil from Duck Dynasty

 

3:22pm the following day:  "1,500 responses?! Let me read a bit of........ My God, what have I done?"

[TripleDigitRide]

[quote name="Wiljo05" post="1081395" timestamp="1387487064"]It seems Christians are one of the few that don't get to take advantage of that....oh what is it, oh yeah the Freedom of Speech. Seems religious persecution is alive and well.[/quote] I hope you just forgot the :lol: symbol, because that is absurd.

[Guest RebelCowboySnB]

I hope you just forgot the :lol: symbol, because that is absurd.

I dont think it is. We are not burning people at the stake but....

[TripleDigitRide]

[quote name="RebelCowboySnB" post="1081408" timestamp="1387488487"]I dont think it is. We are not burning people at the stake but....[/quote] Christians are no more persecuted than those they persecute, unless doing so in the name of religion somehow makes it acceptable.

[RobertNashville]

What does that have to do with the quote?

 

Perhaps it was not your intent but it seems to me that you presented the quote in a manner that suggested that disagreeing with a lifestyle (and given the subject of the thread I would presume the homosexual lifestyle in particular) and fearing/hating them were mutually exclusive which they are not.

Some disagree with the homosexual and do so without fear or hate...some disagree with the lifestyle AND fear and/or hate the homosexual as well which is why I said in my post (that you quoted) that one can do both concurrently.

[R_Bert]

Christians are no more persecuted than those they persecute, unless doing so in the name of religion somehow makes it acceptable.

 

 

flip through a few hundred of these.

 

http://www.persecution.com/public/newsroom.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51

[TripleDigitRide]

[quote name="R_Bert" post="1081419" timestamp="1387489809"]flip through a few hundred of these. [url="http://www.persecution.com/public/newsroom.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51"]http://www.persecution.com/public/newsroom.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51[/url][/quote] I should have been more specific by indicating that I was referring to the United States.

[Chucktshoes]

Any Christian in this country (including myself) who thinks Christians are being persecuted needs to take a trip to China or Myanmar or any of the M/E countries that were part of the Arab Spring. Getting told that your ideas are bad is not persecution. Having your family raped in front of you before they disembowel and behead you, THAT'S persecution.

[RobertNashville]

Any Christian in this country (including myself) who thinks Christians are being persecuted needs to take a trip to China or Myanmar or any of the M/E countries that were part of the Arab Spring. Getting told that your ideas are bad is not persecution. Having your family raped in front of you before they disembowel and behead you, THAT'S persecution.

Wow...not only did I "like" your post but I have to agree with it...surely the world will be ending soon!

 

I have (or more likely had) Christian friends in Egypt before Mr. Socialist in Chief encouraged and helped the "Arab Spring" along...I've not been able to contact them since and given what they are doing to Christians in Egypt I suspect my next contact won't be on Earth.

[Garufa]

Some disagree with the homosexual and do so without fear or hate...some disagree with the lifestyle AND fear and/or hate the homosexual as well which is why I said in my post (that you quoted) that one can do both concurrently.

 

Not to "butt" in to your conversation with DaddyO but your use of "the homosexual" I find amusing and archaic.  This quote is the second and third usage of the term in this thread.

 

You do know that is the basest of stereotypical thought, right?  I honestly don't care, just wanted to be all smart pointing that out.  :D

[mikegideon]

Since you are unwilling to offer up examples to illustrate your assertions; why in the world should I spend time offering examples to illustrate my point?   :shrug:

 

Anyway, I'm sure you are as capable as I am in using the search function here!

 

I love it when two old guys fight. Since this is a gay thread, y'all are gonna have to get naked and slap on some Wesson oil.

[Guest RebelCowboySnB]

Thats all relative is it not? Not to make lite of what others go threw but is theft of $1 not actually theft cause it is not to the level of someone else who had $1m stolen?

 

 

In the US the statement hold true. If he was not a christian but a Muslim it would not be a story.

[Chucktshoes]

Wow...not only did I "like" your post but I have to agree with it...surely the world will be ending soon!
 
I have (or more likely had) Christian friends in Egypt before Mr. Socialist in Chief encouraged and helped the "Arab Spring" along...I've not been able to contact them since and given what they are doing to Christians in Egypt I suspect my next contact won't be on Earth.

Yes, I am aware of what they are doing to Christians in Egypt. My only response is to offer condolences and pray that their suffering was minimal if they were not able to escape harm.

[daddyo]

I love it when two old guys fight. Since this is a gay thread, y'all are gonna have to get naked and slap on some Wesson oil.

Sorry, but I'm very selective about who I do that with.