Project to recreate the big bang

[Guest sling]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_on_sc/big_bang

SO... the things been on for well over 6 hours now... and we're still here.

IMHO, there are some things that should just be left alone... like creating universes and black holes.

We'll see how long it takes for us to get sucked in.

[Guest jwp]

They fired it up today to test clockwise rotation of protons. Lasted an hour, was over by about 6:30am EDT.

Not going to start firing them at each other until October 21, so we're good until then at least.

There was a documentary on NatGeo last night. Very informative.

Also the Wiki has a lot of info on this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LHC

[Guest sling]

All i know is it sounds way too dangerous. Surely there had to be someone out there that said "Man... this cant be a good idea."

Have these people not seen what happens when we F with atoms?

Not to mention... have we ever heard of something even more likely... like black holes? What a suck way to die.

Edited September 10, 2008 by sling

[Guest jwp]

They (the wormy little scientists in the hole with the large tube) are claiming that if there are any "black holes" they will be very tiny and therefore non-threatening.

But I still think it is very funny that in an age of such technology we still have people/scientists running around like it's 600bc screaming that any sort of new experiment will result in the end of the world.

Ya'll still have all your Y2K provisions, right?

[Mike.357]

not to worry, the world does not end until December 21, 2012.

[Guest sling]

They (the wormy little scientists in the hole with the large tube) are claiming that if there are any "black holes" they will be very tiny and therefore non-threatening.

But I still think it is very funny that in an age of such technology we still have people/scientists running around like it's 600bc screaming that any sort of new experiment will result in the end of the world.

Ya'll still have all your Y2K provisions, right?

I'm not running around saying the world is going to end. They are possibilities... merely such. Just like the possibility we all get turned into "strangelings." Thats never good.

I dont envision any sort of blackhole as "not being a threat."

Granted it would probably be so unstable that it would instantly collapse... however the sheer fact is frightening enough.

"But I still think it is very funny that in an age of such technology..."

Please dont let the ego of the power of man get to your head. Theres more out there that we dont understand than what we actually do.

Edited September 10, 2008 by sling

[Guest jwp]

I wasn't talking about you "running around."

I was talking about all the crazy scientists who are jumping up and down and even going to various courts trying to get the project shut down.

[Guest sling]

Ah. I agree. End of the world scientists have done this ever since the RHIC was created and run...

Lawsuits from both the US and the EU... yet the project keeps on.

Just because the project scares the hell out of me doesnt mean i'm going to over react with the worst case scenario.

[creeky]

I remember seeing a documentary about the A-Bomb and the scientists. It was more about the scientists and the secrecy that surrounded them and the project.

When they were getting ready for the test the Scientists were placing bets with

each other on whether it would set off a change reaction and cause every atom

to explode and end everything. A General standing by them became furious at them

for even thinking of such a thing.

As the story went... the scientist calmly said that basically they wouldn't be scientists if they didn't take every possibility into account and only a fool wouldn't be humbled

enough to realize that what they were doing was both incredible and terrifying at the same time.

[Hooker771]

not to worry, the world does not end until December 21, 2012.

They said that this would not be full power for another 4 years.......

[Guest nraforlife]

Just image that this is a dream and our real body is sleeping in another time and space....

[memphismason]

To me it is a little un-nerving, simply because we are playing the role of God (The Creator).

Also the power generated when these two particle collide, will be something that is unknown until we do it. It could be TEOTWAWKI, or it could be the start of an alternate enrgy source to help the planet. We just don't know.

But we will find out on 10-21-08

[Guest GUTTERbOY]

As for the "unknown" energy levels we'll be creating... cosmic rays bombard the Earth every day, and many of them have much more energy than the LHC can possibly create.

Still, maybe there is cause for concern:

[Guest jwp]

To me it is a little un-nerving, simply because we are playing the role of God (The Creator).

I don't think these guys are following that playbook.

[memphismason]

I don't think these guys are following that playbook.

I do!

Trying to recreate a Big Bang (on a smaller scale)........sounds close to Creator to me.

Edited September 10, 2008 by memphismason

[memphismason]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26439957/

Once the machine is in full operation, two streams of invisible protons will be whipped up in opposite directions around an underground racetrack to 99.999999 percent of the speed of light. When the two waves of protons slam into each other, scientists expect particles to melt into bits of energy up to 100,000 times hotter than the sun's core — a state that should replicate what the entire universe was like just an instant after it came into being.

The LHC's scheduled startup had to be delayed 10 months to install and test a fix for the faulty magnets. Even with the fix, there's no guarantee that the magnetic field will always hold. A runaway proton beam could blast right through its helium-cooled pipeline and kill anyone who got in its way. That's why the tunnel is sealed off for each run. If anything goes wrong, a computer-controlled system will shut down the collider and send the errant beam down a blind alley within milliseconds.

However, if everything goes right, each pulse of protons will whip around the ring 11,000 times a second, traveling the equivalent of a trip to Neptune and back before they slam into the protons going the other way at four points around the ring.

[Guest db99wj]

I'm thinking Darwin will step in at some point.

[Guest coldblackwind]

Anybody ever read "Into the looking glass" by John Ringo....cause that article could have pretty much been out of the book, didn't work out so well for them. Just a bit of a side-note, no real scientific justification on my part.

[molonlabetn]

I take comfort in the thought that France will be the first to go...

[Guest GUTTERbOY]

I take comfort in the thought that France will be the first to go...

Thus continuing a longstanding historical trend.

[Guest jwp]

I do!

Trying to recreate a Big Bang (on a smaller scale)........sounds close to Creator to me.

Ok. But what I am saying is that they don't believe that "The Creator" had anything to do with the creation of the universe.

[creeky]

I take comfort in the thought that France will be the first to go...

That was hilarious!!!

Still, maybe there is cause for concern:

Not too mention that this also is Feak'n HILARIOUS!!!

[Guest sling]

To me it is a little un-nerving, simply because we are playing the role of God (The Creator).

Also the power generated when these two particle collide, will be something that is unknown until we do it. It could be TEOTWAWKI, or it could be the start of an alternate enrgy source to help the planet. We just don't know.

But we will find out on 10-21-08

And not to mention that most scientists put their beliefs in science... rather than "faith and speculation."

[Guest GUTTERbOY]

Not too mention that this also is Feak'n HILARIOUS!!!

I'm glad someone got it.

[creeky]

I'm glad someone got it.

Oh not only did I get it... I laughed out loud and then it creeped me out a little! Hahahaha!!!!