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I'm contemplating replacing the connector on my Glock with a ghost 3.5# or similar. I haven't had a chance to feel the difference, but My main concern isn't even the pull of the Glock, it's that it's light for most of the pull movement and then suddenly heavy where it breaks. I want something that doesn't encourage me to snap my finger back and jerk the gun, even if it's just a tiny movement it's keeping me from rouping I want. so is there any option here, or am I stuck with the way it is, only able to adjust the weight? I'm seriously lacking in knowledge on this, so I appreciate input.

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Wolff gun springs:

Extra power trigger spring

Reduced power striker sping

Reduced power safety plunger spring

Lone Wolf:

Lone Wolf 3.5 connector

Lightly polish all mating surfaces, this will give you a nice trigger.

If you aren't satisfied with what this gives you then give Charlie Vanek a call and buy one of his kits.

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Swapping out the connector (i recommend Scherer) is very easy. If you need help with it send me a PM. The thing to remember about Glocks is that your not going to ever get as "crisp" of a break as you would with a purely SA trigger. You can however get pretty close.

Replacing the connector and polishing (lightly) the contact points in the trigger assembly will help... but so will replacing the firing pin spring.

Just remember when polishing... DO NOT change any of the angles. You only want to smooth out the machine marks.

Also, if your wanting better accuracy. Replace the sights. Stock sights suck. I can recommend Mepros if you want night sights and the Heinie's if you want just black steels.

Personally, after making any aftermarket mods to the stock gun I wouldnt carry the gun for SD anymore. However, i'm just anal about that kind of thing.

It takes a little bit of your time and effort but you too can make a Glock not suck.:D

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Put a 3.5 lb connector in it,polish the connecting surfaces and practice.Do not put a reduced striker spring in.You will get light strikes especially with Winchester ammo.I have been shooting Glocks since they came out and this is what works for me.OMFMMV.

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I've also been shooting Glocks for 20 years. I wouldn't mess with anything if I were you. Just shoot the heck out of it. You'll get used to the feel of the Glock trigger after a little bit.....then all the other triggers will feel weird :D

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Put a 3.5 lb connector in it,polish the connecting surfaces and practice.Do not put a reduced striker spring in.You will get light strikes especially with Winchester ammo.I have been shooting Glocks since they came out and this is what works for me.OMFMMV.

I had a light striker spring in my range glock for a long time and never had problems with light primer strikes... even with Winchester.

It is good advice though. Do it if you want. If you run into problems with light primer strikes... you didnt lose much. Go back to the stock spring. Just dont let those spring cups fly across the room! :D

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Sling, I've already got aftermarket sights, XS big dots. Accuracy is part of the concern but not primary, I really just would like the trigger to feel better. And if I'm stuck with it or it'll cost a ton, I'll leave it alone, since I love it otherwise.:D

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I replaced my stock trigger with a 3.5 as well. If you swap, practice with it a lot. I don't know how much trigger time you have had with the stock trigger, but you will be able to tell a difference. Double taps come a lot quicker so be ready and be on target!

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I'm contemplating replacing the connector on my Glock with a ghost 3.5# or similar. I haven't had a chance to feel the difference, but My main concern isn't even the pull of the Glock, it's that it's light for most of the pull movement and then suddenly heavy where it breaks. I want something that doesn't encourage me to snap my finger back and jerk the gun, even if it's just a tiny movement it's keeping me from rouping I want. so is there any option here, or am I stuck with the way it is, only able to adjust the weight? I'm seriously lacking in knowledge on this, so I appreciate input.

Before you replace any parts, make sure you are able to shoot from the reset point. By this I mean only letting the trigger out until you feel a click--the gun is now ready to fire--there's no need to let the trigger out any more. That spot where it suddenly gets heavy? That's your reset. Dry fire your gun, keep the trigger pulled, rack the slide, and slowly let the trigger out. When it clicks, you are ready to go. With a little practice, you can rip off .2 second splits by shooting from the reset. The reset seems to be more pronounced with the stock trigger than with lightened triggers.

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yeah, i've put about 800rds through it and practiced draw and fire, draw form

concealment and fire, double and triple taps, and more. i'm not a bad shot with the stock trigger (at least not bad for me, i can group under 2" at 15yds slow fire, all in the 8, 9, 10 quick fire of 14-27[2 mags, one in tube - fire one mag, drop, lad, fire other asap] rds into three targets while running ) but i want to get better. any other suggestios?

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but i want to get better. any other suggestios?

Get some training, shoot a lot, get involved in the pistol sports like IDPA or USPSA

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^^Yeah, I'm looking into classes to take for more advanced shooting than just the HCP class was. I shoot as much as I can, and have considered shooting sports but was kind of thinking I'd like to shoot better before entering a comp so I don't suck :D I need to do some research on competitive shooting now.

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I do quite a bit of work on Glocks, mine and other folks'. I cut, stipple grips and do all manners of trigger jobs. I work on other pistols and some rifles too.

I have tried all the usual suspects in Glock aftermarket: CCF steel frames, aftermarket triggers, aftermarket slides & barrels and a host of other stuff.

Forget 3.5lb triggers.

Get a very good stone from Brownells or someone else. One that is fine and has very sharp edges. Learn to stone the stock connector and bird's head on the trigger bar. Not too much but you can take the tool marks out and make it shine nearly like a mirror. Do not change angles unless you have some extra parts. The good thing is stock Glcok parts are cheap, especially at OMB Express.

Next stone the striker face where it connnects with the point of the cruciform on the trigger bar. Stone the cruciform point where it connects with the striker, maintaining stock angle. Don't get freaky about needing a jig and all that. Just do it!

Stone the stock disconnector where it hits the bird's head at all points. Make it shine but don't change angles. Slightly knock off any burrs you may make, cause you aren't making edges of connector or bird's head knife share.

Take a small bladed very sharp knife and shave the trigger safety so it doesn't stick out and press on your trigger finger pressure pad when the trigger is fully depressed. Forget about the trigger stop housings that reduce overtravel or do like I do and but one in all your Glocks. Don't go half way.

Shoot the tar out of the thing two-handed either hand and one-handed either hand. Make sure you don't limp wrist. If you can't put a magazine in a paper pie plate weak hand one-handed buy more ammo until you can.

If you want a target accurate Glock you can make one with aftermarket parts. However, if you want a superbly reliable combat gun do the above and you will have it.

I would add one thing to any Glock to make it shoot a bit better and that is add TR Graham's Match Grade Slide Lock to your Glock.

There are sexier and I suppose "cooler" handguns out there, but when it comes to saving your a..... the Glock is king and second to none. I wish it had been American invented, but it wasn't. The fact remains it is the combat handgun to beat.

Craig in Clarksville, TN

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^^Yeah, I'm looking into classes to take for more advanced shooting than just the HCP class was. I shoot as much as I can, and have considered shooting sports but was kind of thinking I'd like to shoot better before entering a comp so I don't suck :D I need to do some research on competitive shooting now.

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FWIW, I put the Ghost 3.5 triggers in mine. Big improvement.

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I'm contemplating replacing the connector on my Glock with a ghost 3.5# or similar. I haven't had a chance to feel the difference, but My main concern isn't even the pull of the Glock, it's that it's light for most of the pull movement and then suddenly heavy where it breaks. I want something that doesn't encourage me to snap my finger back and jerk the gun, even if it's just a tiny movement it's keeping me from rouping I want. so is there any option here, or am I stuck with the way it is, only able to adjust the weight? I'm seriously lacking in knowledge on this, so I appreciate input.

Ya Glock triggers are kinda unique hence why people love them or hate them. Sure....you do have some light uptake before the sudden break...but the beauty of that trigger is how short your reset is. If you really take the time to get used to the reset on the Glock trigger...your follow up shots are going to be quick. The Glock has one of the shortest resets of stuff out there. They are kind of unique...and if you throw them into the mix of other pistols, the grip angle and trigger can take some getting used to. For me...the Glock trigger is one of the reasons I carry one.

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Ya Glock triggers are kinda unique hence why people love them or hate them. Sure....you do have some light uptake before the sudden break...but the beauty of that trigger is how short your reset is. If you really take the time to get used to the reset on the Glock trigger...your follow up shots are going to be quick. The Glock has one of the shortest resets of stuff out there. They are kind of unique...and if you throw them into the mix of other pistols, the grip angle and trigger can take some getting used to. For me...the Glock trigger is one of the reasons I carry one.

+1 Exactly!

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Ya Glock triggers are kinda unique hence why people love them or hate them. Sure....you do have some light uptake before the sudden break...but the beauty of that trigger is how short your reset is. If you really take the time to get used to the reset on the Glock trigger...your follow up shots are going to be quick. The Glock has one of the shortest resets of stuff out there. They are kind of unique...and if you throw them into the mix of other pistols, the grip angle and trigger can take some getting used to. For me...the Glock trigger is one of the reasons I carry one.

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Well, after several hundred rounds through it and ignoring my other pistols I am getting used to it, more than I thought. I just was at the range the other day shooting a couple of my buddy's guns, a sig and a 1911, and those triggers didn't quite feel the same now ,so I bet I'm getting used to it without it being conscious. I know I've improved my accuracy to keeping 26 rounds all inside the rings at 25 yards, and at least half in the black, so that's getting better as well. What can I say, it's a change. I'm getting better about snapping it when it stops right before the break, that's likely what had me pulling to the right. In a perfect world I wouldn't ever know when it would break and I'd squeeze evenly all the time. But I am enjoying the short reset as paimei pointed out. :D

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