Tennessee most dangerous state.

[vontar]

I blame Memphis.

[jacob]

Man it sucks being in the red headed step child of the state...

[Garufa]

Man it sucks being in the red headed step child of the state..

 

Don't let it bother you, a lot of people espouse opinions with no actual knowledge or experience.

[Peace]

We live on a ... correction.. THE major drug route to the North/Northeast.   That is it.  3 of our major cities sit on this drug artery... I-40.

 

Memphis, (Jackson), Nashville, and Knoxville... all on the route... . If you are boating in.. then Chattanooga gets in on the action as well.

 

Illicit drug organizations are smart, smartly run, and darn good at what they do.  They work hard to maintain their supply chain, and their tactics result in crime-prone individuals and groups - which, in turn, produce an incredible amount of crime.

 

So yes, we do live in a crime corridor... more so now than in the past.  Separate yourself the known problem area/times and your odds of staying safe look much better.

Edited December 13, 2013 by Peace

[RobertNashville]

You won't see me in any place at 2am. You will not even see me on the streets of Clarksville at 2 am!!! When I worked on Fort Campbell up until March, I would get off of work at 11:00 pm. I would always stop at Walmart on Fort Campbell Blvd at about 11:20pm each night. Four out of five nights a week coming out of Walmart I would hear one or more gunshots as I walked across the parking lot to my car. While pulling out of the Walmart lot, I have seen dozens of police cars, fire trucks and/or ambulances flying by. Every freaking night..drive by's, domestics, punk gang members shooting at each other...PUNKS...making my city unsafe for anyone!!! Read the paper the next day and  you'll see, PERIOD!!! Don't tell me about crime Robert. I have a lot of respect for you...and your fairy tale city that you live in. I'm moving out of Clarksville buddy, because "Disney Land" doesn't exist here anymore, and this is a dangerous place to live. Because idiots made it that way.

 

Dave

When did I say anything about a fairy tale city?

 

We have plenty of "crime" here although I sure don't hear gunshots every night; even when it's late at night. I live in one of the few cities in Tennessee that publicly reports all crimes in the city (Crimemapping.com)...there is only three in Tennessee that do.

[reed1285]

We live on a ... correction.. THE major drug route to the North/Northeast.   That is it.  3 of our major cities sit on this drug artery... I-40.

 

Memphis, (Jackson), Nashville, and Knoxville... all on the route... . If you are boating in.. then Chattanooga gets in on the action as well.

 

Illicit drug organizations are smart, smartly run, and darn good at what they do.  They work hard to maintain their supply chain, and their tactics result in crime-prone individuals and groups - which, in turn, produce an incredible amount of crime.

 

So yes, we do live in a crime corridor... more so now than in the past.  Separate yourself the known problem area/times and your odds of staying safe look much better.

 

Dont drag Chattanooga in on this. My city is perfect in every way.The whole state is going to hell in a hand basket and you all are dragging Chattanooga down with you...  :stir:

Edited December 13, 2013 by reed1285

[DaveS]

When did I say anything about a fairy tale city?

 

We have plenty of "crime" here although I sure don't hear gunshots every night; even when it's late at night. I live in one of the few cities in Tennessee that publicly reports all crimes in the city (Crimemapping.com)...there is only three in Tennessee that do.

It just seems like if folks are so un aware of how bad the crime rate really is...they live a Fairy tail life in a fairy tail city. It's just an old saying Robert. Clarksville is only about 1/4 the size of Nashville and our crime rate is really high. Nashville is not Disney Land, so I know your crime rate is crazy. Every morning the Nashville news reports stabbings, robberies, burglaries, shootings, and car jackings...every morning. Let alone the busting of meth labs. This whole state is ate up with crime. Don't be fooled Robert...spend some time on the streets and get an eye opener!

 

Dave

[Joe357]

Being from NJ most of you have no idea of crime.TN is heaven compared to cities in NJ. One example is Camden, NJ which is/was the crime capitol of the country. I still believe NJ's biggest problem is gun control. Only the criminals have guns, not the law abiding citizen, that sucks.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Clarksville has had it's share of problems for a long time. I don't know how it fits in with similar towns in TN, though, in a comparison.

After dark, north of Boot Hill is a place you don't want to wander off of the Blvd too far, even though there are nice neighborhoods

all over the place. Downtown has its spots of trouble, too. I just learned a long time ago, to stay away from all those spots, some in

the daytime.

 

You just need to know where you are, in just about any town. Crime can be found anywhere there are humans. but Tennessee being

number one on that hit parade is a joke. That article had used the data and generalized too much to make Tennessee into something

it isn't close to being. That is in no way trashing the FBI. Besides, taking data and using it to come up with a list like that isn't a very

honest way to portray violent crime. Or, since I've lived my entire life in TN, I must be one of those exceptions and know where to stay

away from.

 

I wonder what the violent crime data would show with a breakdown of socioeconomic conditions, like what welfare recipients look like?

or, as a result of the crappy education lots of kids get for one reason or another. You won't get any usable information by looking at just

violent crime historical data, anyway. Studies should be done seeking cause and effect, not for revenue sharing. I imagine that drives

most studies, as it is.

Edited December 13, 2013 by 6.8 AR

[Dirtshooter]

The moral to this story my friends is to live far enough in the woods that "you" are 911!! There is a war on drugs like I am a brain surgeon. But I can stop the drug problem real quick. 2 forms of punishment, caning and hanging. If the first punishment doesn't FIX the problem the 2nd one will. No prisons, just small local jails. It will work, but the mamby pamby ACLU and such wouldn't hear of such brutal forms of punishment, and here we are.

[jughead]

Using the same metrics, Jackson is as, if not more so, dangerous than Memphis or Nashville.  Of course our Madison County Sheriff is embroiled in scandal, the focus being now on how to stay in office instead of limiting crime.

One must remember that LE is simply charged with arresting criminals after the fact, not in preventing crime or providing security.  That responsibility is up to the individual.

just what i told an anti-gun detective friend of mine when he ask me why i carried a weapon.  he would get there after the fact.

[Dolomite_supafly]

The newspaper didn't come to this conclusion, the FBI did.

[DaveTN]

Criminals are criminals no matter what state they live in.

Statisticians compile data. Analysts, politicians, the media and even forum members then manipulate that data to show whatever it is they are trying to show.

Guns vs. crime, drugs vs. violence, DUI enforcement vs. traffic fatalities and injuries, etc. You can look at the raw data and make your own conclusions, or you can read stories written by both those with and without an agenda (although it’s pretty hard to find someone writing an article without and agenda).

If you don’t agree with what the data shows; just claim that the data collection process is wrong or that the person delivering it is wrong.

[Jonnin]

Raise your hand...everyone who thinks they are more likely to be the victim of a violent crime in Chicago vs Nashville at 2AM.

 

Anyone?

 

ANYONE?

 

I would suggest that we should keep in mind that we are reading what someone else had to say about what the FBI said.  Unless someone here is a professional statistician and has reviewed both the statistics AND the methodology I'd suggest that just taking the article at face value is overly simplistic and prone to error.  I'm sure Tennessee is "dangerous" per capita...I'd still rather live in ANY city in Tennessee than Chicago or Detroit or Cleveland or many other cities in this country.

 

 

The worst areas of TN cities, I would call it about even with chicago's rough areas.   I *know* I don't like my odds in the bowels of the ghetto here in chattanooga.   And I also know there are some dangerous outskirts too, where the bubba's are making meth and growing pot and whatnot, and you DO NOT want to stumble across those people's operations. 

Edited December 13, 2013 by Jonnin

[Wheelgunner]

Tennessee is absolutely the most dangerous and criminal-infested state in the Union.  That's why, when the normal routines of daily life are interrupted (i.e. extended power outage, "500 year flood," devastating tornado, etc.), you see so much rioting and looting and violent crime.  

 

Oh - wait.  

 

Hmm. 

[10-Ring]

Also keep in mind that the Examiner is not a reliable source of information.  Anyone can sign up and write for them and there is no fact cecking.  So, take anything you read tere with a grain of salt.

[Erik88]

I love to read the Memphis comments whenever one of these threads comes up. Lets get rid of Memphis so that you can dispose of all of those silly old guns since you would now be in a crime free state. Why does anyone outside of Shelby County need a gun for anything but hunting?

 

so statistically Memphis isn't one of the most dangerous cities in the nation....every year?

 

I agree they it's constantly beaten up but the numbers don't lie. If you remove Memphis from the list TN would fall down the list. Just like Michigan if you remove Detroit.

[QuietDan]

Tennessee most dangerous state

 

Memphis most dangerous city

 

FIFY

[JayC]

We can't win the 'war on drugs' ever...  it's impossible to stop human nature, and it's impossible to win over the populace when there is no victim.  The VAST majority of violent crime in our country comes from the War on Drugs not from the drugs themselves.

 

When was the last time you saw two beer companies doing drive by shootings over territory?  

 

We must accept the fact we can not stop people from using drugs (and don't really have the moral right to do so either), that all we're doing is making the problem that much worse...  we're using the war on drugs as an excuse to violate so many fundamental rights, and increase the costs of regular goods and services in the process.

 

Here is the simple math, a kilo of coffee costs about $25 in Nashville...  a kilo of cocaine costs ~$34,000...  

 

What do you think the market is for cocaine in Nashville in a given year?  Lets say it's 2000 kilo's of cocaine - I know it's probably much lower but lets assume the worse case...

 

Right now that is a 68 million dollar market for cocaine...  That's worth fighting over in any business...  The markup on that product when broken down to street value is real money...

 

Now lets say we drop the price of cocaine down to $50 a kilo (basically a 100% tax)...  You're talking about 1.7 million...  less money than a bad fast food restaurant gross in a year.  Not enough profit to run a criminal enterprise off...

 

Now, you'll say if you make drugs legal there will be a huge uptick in property crimes, because people will steal and rob for drug money...  well people are already stealing and robbing for drug money...  And we've just reduced the costs to 1/700th what they're paying today...  That means for every 700 robberies they're doing today, they can do 1 and score the same amount of money...  also, it's cheap enough that begging for money on the sidewalk for a day pays for weeks worth of their habit.  I'm assuming we can all agree your average coke head isn't going through a kilo of cocaine a year?

 

At the end of the day, we're making the drug problem on society 100 to 1000 times worse than if we just legalized it completely and did nothing.

 

 

 

The moral to this story my friends is to live far enough in the woods that "you" are 911!! There is a war on drugs like I am a brain surgeon. But I can stop the drug problem real quick. 2 forms of punishment, caning and hanging. If the first punishment doesn't FIX the problem the 2nd one will. No prisons, just small local jails. It will work, but the mamby pamby ACLU and such wouldn't hear of such brutal forms of punishment, and here we are.

 

[TMF]

Memphis isn't the only problem. Take our once little quite town of Clarksville. Crime in general, gang crime...

There's no gang crime in Clarksville. Just ask the mayor.

[Links2k]

so statistically Memphis isn't one of the most dangerous cities in the nation....every year?
 
I agree they it's constantly beaten up but the numbers don't lie. If you remove Memphis from the list TN would fall down the list. Just like Michigan if you remove Detroit.

My point is that most TGO members don't live in Memphis, but probably have several more weapons than any Memphian here for sport and security that they really don't need since they safely reside outside of Memphis. Obviously, things aren't so rosey in the rest of the state either. I never notice Memphians doing much bitching about the crime because it seems that most are smart enough to know that there will be higher concentrations of crime in urban areas. It comes with the territory. Also, it appears that most Memphis members have enough sense not to patronize whores, buy drugs and steal from people, so we hear about crime the same way that you do from news organiztions that love to keep you paralyzed and bunkered down in your home afraid to turn the channel and miss the next threat.

[bersaguy]

I have lived in Chicago while growing up and moved away at age 17. I have lived in Tennessee ever since. The crime rate in Chicago by itself is worse than the entire state of Tennessee even with Memphis. Heck the Populaton of Tennessee is just barely above the population of Cook County Chicago to begin with. I would never consider living in Chicago ever again. I think for the most part they are just trying to draw attention away from the real major crime areas beginning with Washington DC, New York and Chicago and how come Los Angeles was not included in that list. There are more gangs in LA that all of Chicago and New York combined. Is California that special they don't fit into the equation?...................jmho

[TMF]

My point is that most TGO members don't live in Memphis, but probably have several more weapons than any Memphian here for sport and security that they really don't need since they safely reside outside of Memphis. Obviously, things aren't so rosey in the rest of the state either. I never notice Memphians doing much bitching about the crime because it seems that most are smart enough to know that there will be higher concentrations of crime in urban areas. It comes with the territory. Also, it appears that most Memphis members have enough sense not to patronize whores, buy drugs and steal from people, so we hear about crime the same way that you do from news organiztions that love to keep you paralyzed and bunkered down in your home afraid to turn the channel and miss the next threat.

But there are those of us who wish to buy our hookers and blow without worrying about being robbed or murdered.

[Chucktshoes]

[quote name="LINKS2K" post="1078326" timestamp="1386950618"]My point is that most TGO members don't live in Memphis, but probably have several more weapons than any Memphian here for sport and security that they really don't need since they safely reside outside of Memphis. Obviously, things aren't so rosey in the rest of the state either. I never notice Memphians doing much bitching about the crime because it seems that most are smart enough to know that there will be higher concentrations of crime in urban areas. It comes with the territory. Also, it appears that most Memphis members have enough sense not to patronize whores, buy drugs and steal from people, so we hear about crime the same way that you do from news organiztions that love to keep you paralyzed and bunkered down in your home afraid to turn the channel and miss the next threat.[/quote] As a PSA: If you are gonna patronize whores, leave the street walkers alone. The outcall escort services are worth the extra $$. Not that I'd know or anything.

[RobertNashville]

As a PSA: If you are gonna patronize whores, leave the street walkers alone. The outcall escort services are worth the extra $$. Not that I'd know or anything.

Do they even have those here in TN???  ;)