Is obama getting mad? Callin Palin a Pig!?

[Guest GLOCK2340]

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/09/mccain-camp-accuses-obama-of-comparing-palin-to-a-pig/

[Guest Boomhower]

I think it's a little petty......There are far greater issues to cry over.

[Guest GUTTERbOY]

Usually, it's the liberals who reach this far in a mad effort to be offended.

[Guest Boomhower]

Usually, it's the liberals who reach this far in a mad effort to be offended.

O their reaching alright. Their all up in Alaska trying to brib and pay the good people of Alaska to give up any dirt they can.....Sad, but typical.

[Guest Honest AK]

From the article:

“John McCain says he’s about change, too, and so I guess his whole angle is, ‘Watch out George Bush.’ Except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics … That’s not change. That’s just calling something the same thing, something different,†Obama said.

“But you know … you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig. You know, you can … wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it’s still going to stink after eight years.â€

I'm not voting for Obama but FWIW, I don't see the connection to Palin in this statement.

[Im Neero]

Look a little harder. If you try hard enough, you can see anything. It is the politico way.

[Guest Boomhower]

Obama calls is "phony and foolish......Obama accused the McCain campaign of “lies and phony outrage” and “Swift-boat politics.” He said the “made-up controversy” was “cat nip for the news media.”

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/obama-accuses-mccain-of-swift-boat-politics/

[DavidD]

And even if he did, so what? He's obviously getting a little worried

Edited September 10, 2008 by DavidD

[Guest nraforlife]

I could give a rats rump what he says. He's a socialist arsewipe.

[Guest Boomhower]

Look a little harder. If you try hard enough, you can see anything. It is the politico way.

I think one can listen to the crowds reaction to the lipstick comment and one can tell what type of interpetion they drew from the comment.

Listen to the crowds reaction to his speech before and after the pig comment.....they were loving it.

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Edited September 10, 2008 by Boomhower
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[Guest GLOCK2340]

My thought is that this the kind of thing that the obamayomama campaign has been whining about all along. Trying to make sure that if everything isn't politically correct then they want to hang the people who said it. Now....that obama is losing....they are doing the very things that they were trying to hang people for. OHH the hypocrisy!!!

[Guest GUTTERbOY]

Oh, good Lord. He used an expression that's been in common use way before Sarah Palin ever was in any kind of publicly prominent position. To suggest that Obama is not only willing to make that kind of vile personal attack, but also dumb enough to do it in public, is ridiculous. You might not like the guy, but he didn't get into the position of potentially being POTUS by being an absolute crass moron.

Out of all the good reasons to dislike Obama and not want him in office, why the hell would anybody focus on this fabricated controversy?

[Guest db99wj]

Oh, good Lord. He used an expression that's been in common use way before Sarah Palin ever was in any kind of publicly prominent position. To suggest that Obama is not only willing to make that kind of vile personal attack, but also dumb enough to do it in public, is ridiculous. You might not like the guy, but he didn't get into the position of potentially being POTUS by being an absolute crass moron.

Out of all the good reasons to dislike Obama and not want him in office, why the hell would anybody focus on this fabricated controversy?

The reason this statement has made such an impact and led to this type of speculation is because of Palin's speech last week that said

"what's the difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom? Lipstick".

Obama might not have meant anything toward Palin, could just say that it is a "saying" which it is, but it is easy to see that the intent could have been toward Palin.

Can't say one way or the other, only Obama and his speechwriters know for sure, but "I" suspect that it was intentional. Is it a big deal to me? No. It just seems to be typical political campaign crap to me.

[Guest GUTTERbOY]

So let's get this straight: He's talking about the topic of change, and how McCain is pushing himself as an agent of change. Obama proceeds to continue with the general tactic of his campaign, which is to paint McCain as four more years of Bush. So he describes what he sees as McCain supporting more of the same stuff, and then says something along the lines of "That's not change; that's taking the same thing and calling it something different." He then follows with the lipstick on a pig line.

So rather than inserting a common metaphor for trying to dress up something as something else, he was actually just dropping a random shot at Sarah Palin into the mix? I don't buy it.

[Guest db99wj]

I'm not selling it, but many people have bought it. That's what the spindoctors do. Fair...no, reality....seems that way.

As highprofile as this race has become due to race and sex, every word is going to be scrutinized, put under a microscope. That is the nature of this election.

[Guest GUTTERbOY]

I'm not selling it, but many people have bought it. That's what the spindoctors do. Fair...no, reality....seems that way.

As highprofile as this race has become due to race and sex, every word is going to be scrutinized, put under a microscope. That is the nature of this election.

Yeah...

This is just the kind of thing that makes me extremely cynical about politics. We've just gotten into the real election season now that the conventions are out of the way, and already I'm disillusioned with the whole thing. It bugs me to see folks who can't just stick to the issues, and instead feel the need to make personal attacks against the person they don't like, or- in this case- to reach waaaaaay out to find something to use to accuse an opponent of inappropriate behavior. And it comes from both sides of the fence.

Maybe it's just me, but I can convince myself that I don't want to vote for Obama based on his policy beliefs alone. He and I occupy very different perspectives on how America needs to operate, and that's enough for me to go elsewhere.

It's stunning to me that there are folks out there who are so divided over who to vote for that stuff like this will push them to one side or the other. And yet it's true.

My personal opinion is this: This assertion by the McCain campaign is, to me, the political version of that old elementary-school maxim: Whoever first smelt it, dealt it.

[Guest db99wj]

Yeah...

This is just the kind of thing that makes me extremely cynical about politics. We've just gotten into the real election season now that the conventions are out of the way, and already I'm disillusioned with the whole thing. It bugs me to see folks who can't just stick to the issues, and instead feel the need to make personal attacks against the person they don't like, or- in this case- to reach waaaaaay out to find something to use to accuse an opponent of inappropriate behavior. And it comes from both sides of the fence.

Maybe it's just me, but I can convince myself that I don't want to vote for Obama based on his policy beliefs alone. He and I occupy very different perspectives on how America needs to operate, and that's enough for me to go elsewhere.

It's stunning to me that there are folks out there who are so divided over who to vote for that stuff like this will push them to one side or the other. And yet it's true.

My personal opinion is this: This assertion by the McCain campaign is, to me, the political version of that old elementary-school maxim: Whoever first smelt it, dealt it.

Don't forget the third part of your analogy, the Media. They are the instigator in all of this. Oh, wait, that's not true, they are un-biased reporters of facts... Yep, couldn't get that all out without laughing!

[Mike.357]

you gotta be searching pretty hard to see a personal insult in this story.

Obama called the Republicans a "pig" The lipstick, being used to beautify, is Palin.

All he was saying is you can try to make a pig look pretty but you still have a pig, pretty as it may be.

Actually I find it to be a pretty true analogy.

[NuTcAsE]

you gotta be searching pretty hard to see a personal insult in this story.

Obama called the Republicans a "pig" The lipstick, being used to beautify, is Palin.

All he was saying is you can try to make a pig look pretty but you still have a pig, pretty as it may be.

Actually I find it to be a pretty true analogy.

Polish a turd, It's still a TURD!!!!

Goes for most politicians.......

[Guest Boomhower]

Polish a turd, It's still a TURD!!!!

Goes for most politicians.......

...Are you calling Obama brown skinned?? That is so offensive to so many Americans. Why did you have to bring that into this conversation? Now I'm forced to play the race card.

[Guest db99wj]

Polish a turd, It's still a TURD!!!!

Goes for most politicians.......

...Are you calling Obama brown skinned?? That is so offensive to so many Americans. Why did you have to bring that into this conversation? Now I'm forced to play the race card.

Well played.

[Guest jwp]

Has anyone heard about Palin calling Obama "Sambo?"

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%E2%80%9Cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%E2%80%9D/

[Guest db99wj]

Has anyone heard about Palin calling Obama "Sambo?"

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%E2%80%9Cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%E2%80%9D/

Hmm, wow, I scanned that site.....and wow...their not anti republican or anti-conservative at all.....

[NuTcAsE]

...Are you calling Obama brown skinned?? That is so offensive to so many Americans. Why did you have to bring that into this conversation? Now I'm forced to play the race card.

Well,then I'll see your NASCAR, and raise you 2 NHRA......

[Magiccarpetrides]

"You cant polish a turd, but you can cut the ends off and shape it"