Who makes these short AR15 Pistol Buffer's?

[JohnC]

Who makes these really short pistol buffer tubes?

Edited December 6, 2013 by JohnC

[JohnC]

Hmm, found it.

Not sure I like the spring riding in the upper on the outside of the BCG.

Anyone here run these? Any abnormal wear inside the upper receiver?

http://www.gunsmokeenterprises.net/product.sc?productId=5&categoryId=2

[Guest 6.8 AR]

For that price, they can keep it.

[Lumber_Jack]

For that price, they can keep it.

Well it does include the modified BCG which is necessary for this to function. So that should account for at least $150....but still a little in the high side.

[173rdABN]

What 6.8 said. Even with the breakdown of what you get, that's ridiculous.

[JohnC]

Might be pricey, but I like it! :up:

I'd just like to find people that use this buffer to see if there is any problems or wear in the upper receiver before I decide to get one. :cheers:

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I see some benefits to it, so I understand, but another good point, for me at least, is the long tube is easy for me to rest on my shoulder

if need be. I wouldn't be able to do that with the short one.

 

What you're wondering about all lies in that spring. That's the important engineering aspect of it, don't you think? The rest is only cutting,

far as I could tell. The right spring tension and I'll bet it rocks. It does make the AR pistol look more like a pistol.

[TrickyNicky]

Might be pricey, but I like it! :up:
I'd just like to find people that use this buffer to see if there is any problems or wear in the upper receiver before I decide to get one. :cheers:

There's another company (I think) making a similar product out there. Oh Shoot linked to it once in a thread about class 3 stuff awhile back. If I can dig it up ill post the link here, otherwise maybe he'll drop in and remember.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Found this one on Ebay .7 5/16 length.

[Oh Shoot]

Only about half the folks who try them get them to run reliably. They were all the rage on pistol section of arfcom. Briefly.

 

Also, you are taking away the biggest advantage of full length buffer tube on AR pistol, using the tube as third point of contact over shoulder and against cheek, or even clumsily schrunching up on it as a stock against shoulder.

 

Holding the AR pistol out on a sling for stability sucks in practice, IMNSHO.

 

- OS

Edited December 7, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[TripleDigitRide]

Found this one on Ebay .7 5/16 length.

At 7"+, that seems to be the typical pistol tube length.

[Oh Shoot]

At 7"+, that seems to be the typical pistol tube length.

 

It is. Most all standard "pistol buffers" are very close to carbine length. Most of them just look shorter in pix if not attached, and a partial foam cover seems to accentuate that look. This is Phase 5, a very popular choice, and it's within a fat whisker of carbine length.

 

 

- OS

Edited December 7, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[Guest 6.8 AR]

And that one appears nicer than any of mine. I
just feel lucky when JSE Surplus shows something in stock. I'll have to give it a try.

BTW, what's a ruler? :D

[JohnC]

Only about half the folks who try them get them to run reliably. They were all the rage on pistol section of arfcom. Briefly.
 
Also, you are taking away the biggest advantage of full length buffer tube on AR pistol, using the tube as third point of contact over shoulder and against cheek, or even clumsily schrunching up on it as a stock against shoulder.
 
Holding the AR pistol out on a sling for stability sucks in practice, IMNSHO.
 
- OS

So the consensus is they don't work, they just look cool?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

No! I wouldn't buy it because of the price. It probably works fine. My preference is the longer one to rest on my shoulder, then the

price.

[Dustbuster]

Phase 5 has em supposed to work w 7 " pistols.
I d think about std pistol size parts w out stock holes,and using an adjustable gas block to tune the system.


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[Guest 6.8 AR]

I must be doing something accidently right with AR pistols because I have yet to tune one. No criticism, just an observation. Maybe an

adjustable gas for suppressing, but I don't suppress so I really don't know, other than what you guys with them say.

 

That coming from the guy who has been shooting an AR in 6.8 with the gas tube pin missing for the last five or so years. :D

I'm wondering if it is skill or just plain luck.

[Dustbuster]

I've had a couple stock that just worked fine as well,and a couple that required "tampering"and gas tuning to stay efficient. Haven't tried a 6.8 pistol though !


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[JohnC]

What would be the benefit of going 6.8 over 5.56 in a pistol?

I've got a Mega forged pistol lower and Mega forged stripped upper coming.

I also have a billet ambi Mega AR15 upper and lower set coming for a rifle build. Would that be better in 6.8 than a pistol?

Just considering my options here. :up:

[Oh Shoot]

So the consensus is they don't work, they just look cool?

 

Consensus I saw for about a year on arfcom is that you have about 50/50 chance. Depends on barrel length and proper gassing, and seems most pistol length barrels tend to be oversized on the gas port. With conventional tube, you can compensate with standard heavier buffers and springs to tune it better.

 

But as 6.8 says, zero advantage for stability touching your bod. It's pretty amazing how much more accurately they shoot with just that tube laid against cheek for third point of contact.

 

- OS

Edited December 8, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[Guest 6.8 AR]

What would be the benefit of going 6.8 over 5.56 in a pistol?

I've got a Mega forged pistol lower and Mega forged stripped upper coming.

I also have a billet ambi Mega AR15 upper and lower set coming for a rifle build. Would that be better in 6.8 than a pistol?

Just considering my options here. :up:

I guess I would make the rifle 6.8 over the pistol, if that's what you're asking. Billet for the rifle and forged for the pistol.

Any benefit really depends on what you want. The 6.8 is a harder hitting round and would benefit by the longer barrel,

but you could use that argument either way. I have both in pistol and rifle, and I like the 6.8 pistol, but I also reload. The

ammo cost might make you change your mind. I'd probably 5.56 the pistol.

 

If you 6.8 the rifle, look at AR15performance . His barrels are quite good, and his bolt is the one to use. And he's in

Morristown, TN.

[syzygia-specwarser.com]

syzygia-specwarser.com makes a new short buffer for the AR 5.56 and the 300 BO

[syzygia-specwarser.com]

A lot of spin on this and other sites about if the short buffer for the AR platform works or not. I have researched this subject at length and helped develop one that works 100% of the time providing you do the following:

You must realize that you are working with a totally new system, it is not as forgiving as far as shooting any type of ammo but you can shoot several sizes if you pay attention to the following points ; Always break-in a new gun- ( 300-400 shots) if it is a 7.5 inch  5.56 1/7 barrel it is recommended that you shoot only 55 gr and 62 gr 5.56 ammo-no 223 ammo it is different. Learn how to properly lubricate your weapon. keep it clean especially the extractor and ejector do not lubricate the face of your bolt. Polish your loading ramp and locking lugs if you have trouble closing all the way in-to battery. This is not a short barrel gun it is a pistol so shoot it like a pistol with a finger grip over the magazine well to hold on with one hand and do a good push and pull just like a pistol. I might add that the M-16 bolt carrier works best with any AR pistol and is highly recommended for the 7.5 or 8 inch barrels.

Same for the 300 Blackout it is a little more forgiving than the 5.56, I can shoot 110,125,150,220 gr through the blackout 7.5 inch barrel 1/7 or 8 twist.

see www.syzygia-specwarser.com 

 

Edited June 23, 2016 by syzygia-specwarser.com