Paul Walker dies in wreck

[Erik88]

[mcordell]

I don't put him by any means above a fallen soldier .. Never would

Paul was a legit "good guy" ... He started his charity back in 2010 ( world of outreach) but he has been doing charity work for a long time

Also I found this story touching: Paul Walker Bought $9K Engagement Ring For Soldier Who Couldn’t Afford It... He secretely bought a couple this ring and wanted no recognition

Here's the link check it out the entire story:

http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/12/05/paul-walker-bought-engagement-ring-iraq-war-vet-wife-soldier/

Also as far as acting I have to disagree about him being a bad actor... You all should watch "running scared" ... Really good movie but never got a lot of recognition Edited December 6, 2013 by mcordell

[G27]

Meh - play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[mcordell]

Meh - play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Eh? Wasn't racing... Wasn't speeding ... Wasn't even driving .... Was out at a charity support event for his charity .... I don't see any stupid games that were played ... Just my opinion

Sucks they were in a Carrera GT those cars are death traps and can crumble with light impacts

[RobertNashville]

I don't put him by any means above a fallen soldier .. Never would

Paul was a legit "good guy" ... He started his charity back in 2010 ( world of outreach) but he has been doing charity work for a long time

Also I found this story touching: Paul Walker Bought $9K Engagement Ring For Soldier Who Couldn’t Afford It... He secretely bought a couple this ring and wanted no recognition

Here's the link check it out the entire story:

http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/12/05/paul-walker-bought-engagement-ring-iraq-war-vet-wife-soldier/

Also as far as acting I have to disagree about him being a bad actor... You all should watch "running scared" ... Really good movie but never got a lot of recognition

For reasons I truly don't understand; there are some who seem to feel they need to make Paul Walker's death "less important" in (what I consider to be a misguided) an attempt to somehow make the death of one of our soldiers, veterans, first responders, etc. "more important".

No one here and I do mean NO ONE HERE finds the death of any man (or woman) of honor such as our military, LEOs, firefighters, etc. to be a tremendous loss more than I do. Those who die in the service of others should be mourned and their lives honored and celebrated. However, that does not make the death of others unimportant or something to be denigrated if the person lived an honorable and worthwhile life.  I claim no personal knowledge of Paul Walker but what I do know indicates to me that he was one of the good guys, not because he had some celebrity bur perhaps, in spite of his celebrity.

Edited December 6, 2013 by RobertNashville

[G27]

Eh? Wasn't racing... Wasn't speeding ... Wasn't even driving .... Was out at a charity support event for his charity .... I don't see any stupid games that were played ... Just my opinion

So you think the car just lost control on its own, eh?

[TGO David]

For reasons I truly don't understand; there are some who seem to feel they need to make Paul Walker's death "less important" in (what I consider to be a misguided) an attempt to somehow make the death of one of our soldiers, veterans, first responders, etc. "more important".
 

 

And for some reasons I truly don't understand; there are some of you who feel the need to needlessly take on emotional burdens concerning the deaths of celebrities.  Like I said, good for you for having the free time to worry about such things.

[RobertNashville]

And for some reasons I truly don't understand; there are some of you who feel the need to needlessly take on emotional burdens concerning the deaths of celebrities.  Like I said, good for you for having the free time to worry about such things.

When my mother passed this past May; that was emotional...when my uncle passed the week before Christmas last year (an uncle that was closer to me in both age and psychologically than my much younger brother); that was emotional.

 

Compared to who I've lost in the last 12 months Paul Walker's death is not emotional for me; I just don't see a problem with making note of the death of someone who seemed to be a good guy and I certainly don't see why some want to not just dismiss his death as unimportant but seem to want to denigrate him and his death.

[RobertNashville]

So you think the car just lost control on its own, eh?

Actually, we don't know exactly what did happen and yes, cars do go out of control for many reasons including but absolutely not limited to driver error.  I was in a wreck this past April that totaled my car (a $50K sports car) and the another car (an POS Mercury) and put the woman driver who turned left in front of me in the hospital for over three weeks, over a week of that in ICU.  I was lucky enough to walk away with a few scratches and bruises but I if you look at my car you would wonder why anyone survived.

 

I guess that if I had died in that wreck some would say I had won the stupid prize too. :shrug:

[mcordell]

So you think the car just lost control on its own, eh?

You should do some research on the Carrera GT... One of the hardest production cars to drive if not the hardest... It's a very RAW car with a true race car platform

Heck in 2004 Porsche sent out memos to dealers of the dangers of the Carrera GT and recommended potential buyers to go through a driving course

The Carrera GT is a beautiful car but I don't think I would wanna be behind the wheel or especially in the passengers seat Edited December 6, 2013 by mcordell

[G27]

I guess the witnesses seeing a 'single speeding car' were lying, then. It was the car's fault - they were doing the 45mph speed limit and the car spun out and was nearly cut in half while taking down a light pole. Stupid car.

[mcordell]

I guess the witnesses seeing a 'single speeding car' were lying, then. It was the car's fault - they were doing the 45mph speed limit and the car spun out and was nearly cut in half while taking down a light pole. Stupid car.

 

What is speeding? A car like that which sounds like an F1 car probably just sounds fast... It seems it would be difficult to tell...Either way its a loss and my prayers are with both families Paul Walker and Roger Rodas

 

BTW Rodas was a former professional race car driver (he was driving the Carrera)

 

EDIT: After reading several reports it seems unclear of exact speed I have read several websites some saying 45mph, one said 60mph, others say 90mph... Very unclear...

Edited December 6, 2013 by mcordell

[TGO David]

You should do some research on the Carrera GT... One of the hardest production cars to drive if not the hardest... It's a very RAW car with a true race car platform

Heck in 2004 Porsche sent out memos to dealers of the dangers of the Carrera GT and recommended potential buyers to go through a driving course

The Carrera GT is a beautiful car but I don't think I would wanna be behind the wheel or especially in the passengers seat

 

You know what's pretty easy to control?  Any car doing the speed limit.

[Erik88]

People here crack me up. I'm sure that those of you who are so cold about this have never sped or done anything wreckless in a car before right? Also, I'm sure you've never been the passenger when the driver did something dangerous and you had little control.

 

I'm usually the first person to get pissed about Americans who obsess over celebrities. In fact, half the time I hear one named I don't even know who they are because I don't care.

 

That being said, from all accounts Paul seemed to be of a better caliber than the majority of celibrities and I don't understand why some of you feel the need to put down the situation with such negativity. I heard a story where Paul was in a jewelry store and struck up a conversation with a solider that was returning from the middle east. Long story short, Paul ended up paying for the engagement ring the solider couldn't afford.

 

So yes, the guy driving was probably speeding, but we've all done the same damn thing. That doesn't mean we deserve to die.

[mcordell]

You know what's pretty easy to control? Any car doing the speed limit.

Sure is ... I've owned several fast cars and done some stupid stuff (racing on the street or doing pulls on areas I shouldn't )

Either way David neither of us will ever know exactly what caused the wreck but if they were indeed speeding of course that would have made the conditions more favorable for a wreck

Thanks for making a very obvious point

[TMF]

I saw the security video. They were hauling some serious speed. They snapped a light pole like a twig, subsequently took a second tree out before smashing into something large enough to cut a Porche in half and set it on fire. Don't be f'ng rediculous. They were going well over 100 mph to snap a light pole and still have enough energy to take out a second tree and hit a third object fast enough to do the damage they did. Forgive me if I don't classify this under "tragedy".

Hopefully, in time, America can recover from this.

[Chucktshoes]

You know what's pretty easy to control? Any car doing the speed limit.

Meh, I once flipped an 89 escort 4 times side over side coming to a stop upside down on a flat portion of hwy 88 in Maury City. I was doing about 45 mph.It is just as easy to lose control of a vehicle doing the speed limit as it is while speeding. All it takes is just the right amount of driver error.
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[TMF]

People here crack me up. I'm sure that those of you who are so cold about this have never sped or done anything wreckless in a car before right? Also, I'm sure you've never been the passenger when the driver did something dangerous and you had little control.
 

Sure, when I was a teenager. He is what?.... late 30's early 40's? Old enough to know better. Old enough to understand consequences. Old enough not to take stoopid risks for the thrill of it when he is a father. I'm in the same boat as him, and I'll tell you straight up I'm not doing stoopid stuff for thrill when I have young ones to tend to. I know better and so did he. If I was in a car with someone driving stoopid amounts of speed I'm gonna tell them to slow the **** down no matter who they are. I ain't 16 any more. My wife and kids expect more outa me.

So no, I don't feel any sorrow for Paul Walker. For all those dumbasses who said that he died doing what he loved should think that he, in those final moments of being burned to death, was wishing he would have chosen wiser. It is sad for his family and friends who were close to him. If he were my dad, I'd hate him every day for being so careless with his life for such stoopid reasons.

[TGO David]

I saw the security video. They were hauling some serious speed. They snapped a light pole like a twig, subsequently took a second tree out before smashing into something large enough to cut a Porche in half and set it on fire. Don't be f'ng rediculous. They were going well over 100 mph to snap a light pole and still have enough energy to take out a second tree and hit a third object fast enough to do the damage they did. Forgive me if I don't classify this under "tragedy".

Hopefully, in time, America can recover from this.

 

Don't you dare bring facts, logic and mature rational thinking into this highly emotional issue.  You're robbing Paul Walker apologists of their moment!

[Sam1]

This graphic puts the entire situation into perspective.

 

I frequent a lot of car forums and there has just been so much fake uproar over Walker's death that it's disgusting.  I posted this graphic up and many of the people literally have no clue who this guy is, or do they seem to care.

 

[RobertNashville]

Regardless of what one thinks, doesn't think, cares or doesn't care about Paul Walker, Nelson Mandela was a communist revolutionary who was good buddies with the like of Castro, Chavez and mostly backed by the Soviet Union...Mandela did seek peace when he could have sought conflict and caused the death of thousands or hundreds of thousands in South Africa and that is extremely commendable but once you get past that I think there is much to not like about the man.

Now, not knowing who he was may well be part of "what is wrong with the world" but I think there are better, more positive examples that could be used in the above comparison than Mandela.

Edited December 7, 2013 by RobertNashville

[G27]

I saw the security video. They were hauling some serious speed. They snapped a light pole like a twig, subsequently took a second tree out before smashing into something large enough to cut a Porche in half and set it on fire. Don't be f'ng rediculous. They were going well over 100 mph to snap a light pole and still have enough energy to take out a second tree and hit a third object fast enough to do the damage they did. Forgive me if I don't classify this under "tragedy".

Yup: http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/03/showbiz/paul-walker-report/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[Sam1]

I'll be surprised if they were doing 100mph or less at the time they crashed.

Is psychic.

[TGO David]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/03/showbiz/paul-walker-report/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

 

So where are all of the idiots who said he was just driving along doing the speed limit, listening to some ABBA, minding his own business?

[Lumber_Jack]

[quote name="TGO David" post="1089284" timestamp="1388882348"][url="http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/03/showbiz/paul-walker-report/index.html?hpt=hp_c2"]http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/03/showbiz/paul-walker-report/index.html?hpt=hp_c2[/url] So where are all of the idiots who said he was just driving along doing the speed limit, listening to some ABBA, minding his own business?[/quote] Yep, not quite the case. The drivers skull fractured completely exposing the entire top of his brain.