Thug down! of the knockout game variety

[Guest TankerHC]

Tanker, the racism begins with the game itself. The "knockout game" started as "polar bear hunting" as groups of young black kids went around searching for white males to attack.

Media seems to be avoiding that aspect altogether.

 

Sam, I agree with you, to an extent. There is no doubt how this started and that the majority of victims are white, if this entire thing were reversed people like Jackson, Sharpton and the liberal left so called "leaders" of these Socialist Progressive failed Cities would be out there screaming for the heads of the white kids at the top of their lungs, the left wing news would be all over it day and night, they would be on TV crying for the victims and demanding the "kids" heads and compensation. I know how it works.

 

The point I was making is that those same people refuse to do that, when the fact is that the first time a man defends himself and his child, he is a black man defending against black thugs because it wouldn't fit their race baiting narrative. I don't know if you recall the way this actually started getting press, it was several months ago when two close incidents, the first when the Austrailain student was shot walking down the street minding his own business, and the second was when the thug stated that he was going to knock out the first White person who walked by, he actually knocked out three before the cops arrived and killed one of them. Well just 2 days ago I saw where the point was brought up. The "boys" who killed the Australian, one was white and two were black. Both incidents were directly related to the Zimmerman - Martin incident and the WHITE race baiters in Florida, along with the help of Jackson, Sharpton and Obama, should all be held responsible. The other thing that I saw was that the two thugs who were black (Shooters of the Australian had their pictures posted of them as children and young people "just listening to music" or going to school or whatever "good kids" do. In those articles I also noted that the father and mother of the two kids were stating that they were "good boys", a tired old worn out cliche, and one stating when it happened the "good boy" was home with his mother. Lying seems to be OK, they are only following their leader in the White House. Do a different search and there is one of the "good boys" holding a 700 BDL with a scope talking about shooting "woods" and twitter photos of this "god boy" with probably 20,000 dollars worth of 100 dollar bills. One thing that is conspicuously absent in the other "good boy" articles, are any photo's of the white kid as a young boy or of him  just listening to music with a smile on his face (Should also note, that the photo of the kid as a young boy, in an obviously disgusting low life act by the family, is him listening to music wearing a black hoodie, tell me that wasn't an attempt at a parallel between him and Martin),  

 

Take my word for it, I am not oblivious to the racism involved here, But this begins at the top, in Liberal Progressivism, filters down to the communities, parents, then the perpetrators themselves. They are all responsible, starting at the top with the black race baiters who make tons of money off the entire race issue and their white co-conspirators who also make tons of money of the whole race issue while trying to make a name for themselves with their feel good BS.

 

Bottom line for me, black, white, pink or purple, I reserve my God given Constitutionally protected right to defend myself and my family in the face of aggression. And Mr. Rowland designed the way I will do it. I don't care who they are, take the thuggery to your buddies, because it sure as hell is not going to work in this direction. 

[TMF]

The story quoted “He shoved something into my side,” the victim said of Weaver. “I wasn’t sure what it was. It had some force to it. I wasn’t sure if it was a knife or a gun.”
That tells me he had no idea what it was.

Sounds good enough to me. I mean, it's safe to assume it wasn't a bologna sandwich. Intent is everything.

[Fourtyfive]

Sounds good enough to me. I mean, it's safe to assume it wasn't a bologna sandwich. Intent is everything.

[Fourtyfive]

All I'm saying is present that crap in court.

[Fourtyfive]

The quote was "I wasn't sure what it was " , you better be sure when you pull your gun that it wasn't a finger.

[Fourtyfive]

A taser, if it doesn't kill you, is intended to incapacitate you.  Make you defenseless.  Leads to all sorts of possibilities.  It's not a friendly act.  Rock breaks scissors.

At the time the guy did I not know what it was , all I'm saying is if you get pushed in the stomach or side , protect yourself ; if it's a stun gun then kill the attacker , if you have no idea what touched your side then decide what to do.

There seems to be a movement here that if someone touches you or pokes you that you can kill them , not true.. you better start reading some law about that gun you carry.

[Dane]

At the time the guy did I not know what it was , all I'm saying is if you get pushed in the stomach or side , protect yourself ; if it's a stun gun then kill the attacker , if you have no idea what touched your side then decide what to do.

There seems to be a movement here that if someone touches you or pokes you that you can kill them , not true.. you better start reading some law about that gun you carry.

So you should stop and say "excuse me sir, is that a weapon you are jabbing into my ribs? If so I shall pull my firearm on you and if not would you please stop that."

I'm saying my reaction would be to move away and draw my firearm. I never said to kill him, but I'm not waiting to find out what it is before I start my draw.


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[RichardR]

At the time the guy did I not know what it was , all I'm saying is if you get pushed in the stomach or side , protect yourself ; if it's a stun gun then kill the attacker , if you have no idea what touched your side then decide what to do.

There seems to be a movement here that if someone touches you or pokes you that you can kill them , not true.. you better start reading some law about that gun you carry.

Excuse me sir, might I ask what sort of weapon you just used to assault me with is exactly? And what are the reasons do you have for assaulting me with said weapon?

[RichardR]

So you should stop and say "excuse me sir, is that a weapon you are jabbing into my ribs? If so I shall pull my firearm on you and if not would you please stop that."

I'm saying my reaction would be to move away and draw my firearm. I never said to kill him, but I'm not waiting to find out what it is before I start my draw.


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LOL my thoughts exactly ..

[Fourtyfive]

Just saying , from the original news , the guy didn't know what the other person had , I'm done with it. I would not count on that holding up in court. Like I said earlier , he got off , yay .....

[TMF]

All I'm saying is present that crap in court.

I think you need to consider the context of his statement. I wasn't as if his report to the police is "I felt something touch me so I pulled my gun and fired." Obviously something was going on since the thug was attempting to tase him. I'm gonna go ahead and say there were other indicators of a violent attack occurring. There have been plenty of justified shoots where the shooter killed an attacker that was unarmed and had not yet assaulted them. Intent is everything. If you're just addressing a sound byte and saying that particular sound byte wouldn't stand up in court, then I would say you're correct. Obviously there is more going on here.

[Fourtyfive]

All I'm doing is defending my first statement , which is correct.

[tnguy]

Good news I saw today.  I can't confirm it except from this website, so I hope it's real.

 

 

http://news.awfbase.com/content/knockout-game-turns-deadly-60-year-old-woman-shoots-and-kills-2-teens-after-being-punched

 

 

I liked the "Glockout game" comment.

[Sam1]

The quote was "I wasn't sure what it was " , you better be sure when you pull your gun that it wasn't a finger.

 

We also don't know if the attacker(s) yelled out "we're gonna ####ing kill you!!" right before shoving an unknown object into his side. 

 

I'm thinking that if there was any doubt that the racebaiters would have already descended down on that guy.

Edited November 24, 2013 by Sam1

[TMF]

We also don't know if the attacker(s) yelled out "we're gonna ####ing kill you!!" right before shoving an unknown object into his side.

I'm thinking that if there was any doubt that the racebaiters would have already descended down on that guy.

The man defending himself was black. Nothing the victim did could have provoked the involvement of the race baiters. He wasn't the right color.

[Sam1]

The man defending himself was black. Nothing the victim did could have provoked the involvement of the race baiters. He wasn't the right color.

 

I thought it was a white victim, black attacker?

[TMF]

I thought it was a white victim, black attacker?

It didn't mention in the story, but Tankers post said he was black so I figured he had info from another source.

[K191145]

The story quoted “He shoved something into my side,” the victim said of Weaver. “I wasn’t sure what it was. It had some force to it. I wasn’t sure if it was a knife or a gun.”

That tells me he had no idea what it was.

 

Some stranger/thug shoves an object into my side, i'm not going to take the time and ask him if it's a leathal object or not, i'm automatically assuming it's a weapon he's trying to harm or kill me with and i'll do whatever I can to stop him even if that includes shooting and killing him. It will be the attackers fault 100%, he will have asked for it and will get what he deserves and society will be rid of one POS thug.

Edited November 24, 2013 by K191145

[Sam1]

It didn't mention in the story, but Tankers post said he was black so I figured he had info from another source.

 

there was a video I watched where the victim said he didn't want anyone to think he was racist, and that his friends knew he wasn't.  Am trying to find that one again, the short one posted on the blaze looks like he may be black so that is where the confusion is coming from... not sure why he would say he was worried about being accused of racism though if he was black.

[RichardR]

there was a video I watched where the victim said he didn't want anyone to think he was racist, and that his friends knew he wasn't. Am trying to find that one again, the short one posted on the blaze looks like he may be black so that is where the confusion is coming from... not sure why he would say he was worried about being accused of racism though if he was black.

I believe that there have been multiple "knockout game" incidents lately, I'm not certain of which one involved the tazer &/or if that specific one had a white or black victim.

Maybe someone who's been following these incidents more closely can chime in & set the record straight?

[Just2Honor]

[DaveS]

I'm with most folks here. Keep your hands, fingers and objects off me. I know the difference between being poked by someone in a playful manner and someone intent on doing me harm. If you don't want shot or have your skull cracked with a hammer blow from a 1911, don't walk up on me and run something into my ribs or stomach! Lee Harvey Oswald was poked in the ribs too, and Jack Ruby wasn't playing!

 

Awareness my friends. Know who is around you at all times.

 

Dave

[79troublehead]

Establish a principal that you won't be laid hands on. Stick to it.

[JAB]

The story quoted “He shoved something into my side,” the victim said of Weaver. “I wasn’t sure what it was. It had some force to it. I wasn’t sure if it was a knife or a gun.”

That tells me he had no idea what it was.

 

This wasn't just a case of someone walking up and shoving 'something' in someone else's side.  This was a case where the victim saw the van that the assailant got out of driving around in a circle a couple of times.  On the second time around, he saw three people (apparently, the would-be assailant and two of his buddies) get out of the van.  At least one of them - the would-be assailant - then walked up to him and shoved something in his side.  Put all of that together and I believe that the intended victim could, indeed, articulate a reasonable belief that his life was in danger. 

 

If I am standing in a public place, minding my own business and a vehicle circles past me a couple of times, three guys I don't know get out and one of them walks up to me and shoves something in my side, I don't think I'd give them a chance to take any, further action before acting in self defense.  It isn't like this guy just bumped into him walking down the street or even like the intended victim just suddenly felt something shoved into his side out of nowhere.  The back story - the circling van, the three guys getting out, one of them walking up and then shoving something into his side - is important.

Edited November 26, 2013 by JAB

[Fourtyfive]

This wasn't just a case of someone walking up and shoving 'something' in someone else's side. This was a case where the victim saw the van that the assailant got out of driving around in a circle a couple of times. On the second time around, he saw three people (apparently, the would-be assailant and two of his buddies) get out of the van. At least one of them - the would-be assailant - then walked up to him and shoved something in his side. Put all of that together and I believe that the intended victim could, indeed, articulate a reasonable belief that his life was in danger.

If I am standing in a public place, minding my own business and a vehicle circles past me a couple of times, three guys I don't know get out and one of them walks up to me and shoves something in my side, I don't think I'd give them a chance to take any, further action before acting in self defense. It isn't like this guy just bumped into him walking down the street or even like the intended victim just suddenly felt something shoved into his side out of nowhere. The back story - the circling van, the three guys getting out, one of them walking up and then shoving something into his side - is important.

Agreed