Obama now runs the insurance companies

[DMark]

Aug 2013.

 

Harry Reid Says ObamaCare Just A Step Toward Single-Payer.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/08/10/sen-harry-reid-obamacare-absolutely-a-step-toward-a-single-payer-system/

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXgSKwYMnWo

[Guest ThePunisher]

 
 Looks to me like BHO's plan is actually working out just as he wanted -- the gummit will be "forced" to step in and "save" American Health Care, by taking it over and managing it 100%.
 
- OS

Yep, taking over and managing 100% Marxist style.

[Mark@Sea]

Oh, without a doubt we'll hear how the only possible way forward is for the government to take over health insurance.  Can't go back, right? 
Thing is, after experiencing Obamacare, there will be a bunch of people really reluctant to give Obama's crew even more control over their healthcare.

 

Republicans need to offer true free market insurance (over state lines) and medical tort reform.  Getting tort reform past the lawyers will be tough, but those two changes would cut healthcare costs in half.

[Guest nra37922]

Who died and made this MF'er Caesar?

[daddyo]

The ACA disaster is further proof that Obummer just makes it up as he goes.

Edited November 15, 2013 by daddyo

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Who died and made this MF'er Caesar?

Nah, Caesar now trains dogs. This guy will have us eating them before long.

[mikegideon]

Nah, Caesar now trains dogs. This guy will have us eating them before long.

 

I'm thinking the masses are starting to catch on. The king is in a little trouble. Even the smarter members of the liberal media are starting to beat on him. He may even get what he deserves in the end.

[Guest TNSovereignty]

Regardless of our viewpoints on Obama & the ACA, I think it's here to stay in some form or another.  The arrow is shot - the die is cast.  They can tinker around the edges of ACA or go all-in w/ their universal health care dream ... the GOP will take the former tack; Dems will flirt with adjustments, orchestrate the spin so the GOP takes the fall for ACA failure, then propose universal single-payer by the 2020 election.  

[Guest 6.8 AR]

If the Republicans tinker around the edges and not get rid of it, they won't keep a majority of anything in the future. The only people

who want the ACA are the elites, and the ones not paying for it. You can't tinker around the edges of a bomb. It is meant to explode,

and it will very soon. Some might argue the fuse has just been lit.

[Guest TNSovereignty]

If the Republicans tinker around the edges and not get rid of it, they won't keep a majority of anything in the future. The only people

who want the ACA are the elites, and the ones not paying for it. You can't tinker around the edges of a bomb. It is meant to explode,

and it will very soon. Some might argue the fuse has just been lit.

Not at all disagreeing ... just don't think the GOP has the cajones to get rid of it.  Too many elites in the GOP after all - the establishment has the party by the tail, if not the head.  GOP has never had a good bomb disposal unit ... they see a grenade (or in this case, nuclear bomb) proposed by the statist left & all-too-reliably jump on it every time.  

 

Also agree this 'bomb' was designed to explode ... all the better for the universal health care fans.  UEMACA (The Universal Even MORE Affordable Care Act) will be championed in Hillary's 2020 reelection campaign.  

[Randall53]

UEMACA (The Universal Even MORE Affordable Care Act) will be championed in Hillary's 2020 reelection campaign.

She'll be Czar Hilliary of the United States Socialist Republic by then. And we'll owe it all to the LARR...Lazy Assed Republican Rhinos Edited November 17, 2013 by Randall53

[Guest ThePunisher]

2020! heck we haven't even gotten through the last three years of O'Bama the diabolical charmer in chief. By then death insurance might be more important if you have family.

[Guest Bonedaddy]

If and that is a very big "IF" we can gain control of the Senate with the majority and keep the House Reid is gone (1st good thing.) Botox Pelosi is gone (2nd good thing) If we can gain the majority in the Senate and keep the House Obama Care or ACA or what ever they are calling it now can be completely repealed but the Repub's better have a plan to replace it immediately upon the repeal. Obama can veto it but the Senate and the House can over ride his Veto and put the plans in play. Then they can begin impeachment proceedings against him and his cronies and he won't be in power his last two years of his term and that would be a bonus for the entire country............jmho

Good luck with that. We never really had and never will have control of anything goobernut. Just a damn illusion. The ALEC is doin' all it can to bring back the way Senators were elected before 1913, in which the state legislature also got to choose who could run and guess who would have the best chance of winning? They are tryin' to insure they keep and control the power structure and elevate it, as well. Just another amendment under attack (17th) that most won't notice or realize what it can happen if broken back down. I'd bet near anything that Obamacare is goin' to stay in one form or the other. Washington and their laws are like black holes, Nothin' ever leaves, once it's there, unless they see a better money makin'/power grab opportunity.

[Oh Shoot]

....By then death insurance might be more important if you have family.

 

Well, life insurance is death insurance, and always has been important if one has family.

 

- OS

[Guest ThePunisher]

Well, life insurance is death insurance, and always has been important if one has family.
 
- OS

But by then the family will probably be taxed 90% of death benefits.

[Guest TNSovereignty]

The ALEC is doin' all it can to bring back the way Senators were elected before 1913, in which the state legislature also got to choose who could run and guess who would have the best chance of winning? 

Just a minor point of correction ... under the original Constitution our Senators were selected by the state legislature - NOT the voting constituency, which was already represented by the House.  Going back to the original plan would be good for the Republic, and enhance state sovereignty by vetting candidates that would do right preserving the rights of Tennessee, instead of allowing the masses to elect the guy w/ the most illusory promises & slickest 30sec attack ad.   If states had their Senators in DC w/ a focus on states rights (i.e. 10th Amendment), and accountable to state legislatures & governors (who have to balance their budgets), maybe rampant federalism (e.g. Obamacare) would've been stopped in it's tracks.

[Oh Shoot]

Just a minor point of correction ... under the original Constitution our Senators were selected by the state legislature - NOT the voting constituency, which was already represented by the House. ...

 

The citizenry voting for Prez wasn't in there either, and still isn't.

 

- OS

[Mark@Sea]

Shamelessly stolen from the Ace of Spades overnight thread comments....

 

The only way to make the ACA popular again is to take the law, put it in a Lincoln Continental Convertible, and drive it down to Dallas. In 50 years everyone will still be talking about what a magical law it was.