WARNING! Tisas 1911 is a DO NOT BUY or... (Tanker's Revenge)

[KahrMan]

23 minutes ago, DMark said:

Well I'm getting tired of thinking about ugly & cheap 1911s....., here is a picture of the most Beautiful 1911 that I had ever held in my hands.  

 

Damn.  That is nice.  Love those ivory grips.  That is my kind of bar-b-que gun!

[DMark]

54 minutes ago, KahrMan said:

Damn.  That is nice.  Love those ivory grips.  That is my kind of bar-b-que gun!

That was Joe Lundberg's 1911. He was/is a TGO member. Use to own Hero-Gear in Winchester, TN.

I might be wrong since its been several years, but I think it's a Heirloom Precision build. It could have been one of their SHOT Show 1911s with either Ted Yost or Jason Burton (maybe both) doing the work.

Edited August 7, 2018 by DMark

[KahrMan]

11 minutes ago, DMark said:

That was Joe Lundberg's 1911. He was/is a TGO member. Use to own Hero-Gear in Winchester, TN.

I might be wrong since its been several years, but I think it's a Heirloom Precision build. It could have been one of their SHOT Show 1911s with either Ted Yost or Jason Burton (maybe both) doing the work.

Haven't talked to Joe in quite a while.  I follow him in a couple social media accounts.  He still loves his Porsche's and the military.

[Capbyrd]

On 8/7/2018 at 5:26 PM, DMark said:

That was Joe Lundberg's 1911. He was/is a TGO member. Use to own Hero-Gear in Winchester, TN.

I might be wrong since its been several years, but I think it's a Heirloom Precision build. It could have been one of their SHOT Show 1911s with either Ted Yost or Jason Burton (maybe both) doing the work.

 

Jason's work is simply stunning.  

[billt]

First off, I'm new here, and this is my first post. I think with most any manufacturer, (Tisas or anyone else), you can get a good product, and you can also get a POS. And cost alone in itself does not control that. And this includes a lot of top American manufacturers. Anyone remember the S&W Sigma, or the Colt All American 2000? Or some of the dog POS pistols Ruger has put out over the years? A big part of the problem today are all of the blogs and You Tube "experts" out there, many of which wouldn't know a good weapon if they had one in their hand. They wind up putting a LOT of bad information out there.

Back to Tisas. Using myself as an example, I recently purchased a Tisas Regent BR-9 Stainless Steel Hi-Power clone from Brownell's. It has proven to be an excellent, high quality pistol thus far. Excellent machining with very few tool marks inside both the frame and slide. And very good slide to frame fit. And a very good trigger. Especially considering the gun has a magazine safety, which is known to increase the trigger pull on Hi-Power's. The gun digested 400 rounds of 4 different types of 9 MM ammunition without a single FTF or FTE. And that included 100 rounds of Federal 9BPLE +P+ Hollow Points.

With that said I did purchase the Tisas BR-9 Essential Reliability Kit from BH Spring Solutions. It give you an extra extractor, firing pin retaining plate, as well as all the necessary springs and roll pins to replace them. I have 2 other Browning Hi-Powers, and it can never hurt to have extra parts available. But as of yet they have not been needed. I know 400 rounds isn't a tell all, but it's a damn good start. So as is the case with most manufacturers, it really isn't fair to judge them on a single product.

https://bhspringsolutions.com/tisas-br9-hi-power-/358-tisas-br9-hi-power-essential-kit.html

And After 400 Rounds

 

 

 

[Jamie Jackson]

Welcome aboard billt. Nice looking Hi Power clone.

[Danger Rane]

This post always reminds me of a certain children's song without end. On the upside we gain new TGO members periodically, even if they do have questionable taste in 1911's 

[billt]

It's a Hi-Power... Not a 1911.

[SonnyCrockett]

 

Pricepoint for the Regent is where the Highpower should have been 

[DMark]

HOLY SH********T!!!!!!!!

Now the revenge of TankerHC has taken us into the sad, sad world of cheap High Powers.

John Moses Browning would not be pleased with this turn of events. 

[billt]

47 minutes ago, SonnyCrockett said:

 

Pricepoint for the Regent is where the Highpower should have been 

While in theory I have to agree with you, in reality that was never possible. The cost of manufacturing in socialist run countries like Belgium is astronomical. Especially when you include all of the taxes that are levied on them, not to mention government run health care and retirement. Along with the cost of what they are required to pay their workers in both wages and benefits. Many European countries require 6 weeks paid vacations for most every employee. Put all of this together and it forces prices to be raised beyond what the market will bear. In the case of the Browning Hi-Power, that was over $1,100.00 by the time they ceased production. Americans always scream how they want quality. But they always complain when it comes time to pay for it. 

The end game was they simply couldn't charge enough for the gun to make money on it. Browning / FN was able to partially reduce costs by having assembly take place in Portugal. But in the end even that was too expensive to allow production to continue. This is also why Glock started assembling their weapons in Georgia instead of Austria. Now they even fully produce them here. As expensive as American workers are, they're cheap when compared to Austria along with the rest of Continental Europe. Turkey is different.

Many American gun manufacturers like Weatherby are going to Turkey for many of their products. Turkey has an excellent reputation for manufacturing quality at a reasonable price that insures profitability. Assuming our political relations with them don't go south, this will continue to increase.  You have to remember, if the manufacturer can't make money, it's not going to be produced. I don't care what you're making.

Here is a video showing the Tisas plant in Turkey. I've worked in the metal working trades for over 45 years, and this is as clean and modern of a manufacturing facility as I've ever seen, or been in. 

 

[BimmerFreak]

On 8/7/2018 at 5:14 PM, DMark said:

Well I'm getting tired of thinking about ugly & cheap 1911s....., here is a picture of the most Beautiful 1911 that I had ever held in my hands.  

 

 

Yes, this was an Heirloom Precision gun, featured at SHOT Show (around 2009ish?) It has a matching Colt revolver, knife, and full exotic leather holster set.

I sold the complete set to Pete Brownell (of Brownell's fame) several years ago. It's certainly one I wish I had kept in my collection.

 

[QuackerSmacker]

Well, I think it's a close call, but that just might beat my Tisas ......................Wow, what a nice Heirloom!  I've seen a lot of 1911's and I too might vote for that as the ultimate beauty queen, though I didn't get to hold that one like you did.  But I trust you on this one.  Congrats. To hold that would be an honor.

 

[Chucktshoes]

Bought some new grips for my Hi-Power. 

[Garufa]

38 minutes ago, Chucktshoes said:

Bought some new grips for my Hi-Power. 

That speaks to me.  Who made?

[TripleGGG]

1 hour ago, Chucktshoes said:

Bought some new grips for my Hi-Power. 

That's gorgeous. Very nice.

[Chucktshoes]

1 hour ago, Garufa said:

That speaks to me.  Who made?

https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/browning

Reasonably priced to boot. 

[hipower]

2 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:

https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/browning

Reasonably priced to boot. 

Thanks for the link. Lots of interesting grips. Not quite an Esmerelda, but neither as elaborate or as high.

Thinking about some Super Rosewood for my oldest BHP and my O model Colt. 

[Verne]

22 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:

Bought some new grips for my Hi-Power. 

This just cost me some money and I blame myself. LOL

[Garufa]

Looks like I need a HI Power so I can get some of those grips.

[Chucktshoes]

24 minutes ago, Garufa said:

Looks like I need a HI Power.

FTFY. You used too many words. 

[Raoul]

fwiw, I've purchased grips from Altamont for several years and have always been satisfied.

[conmcb25]

Another new member. Was looking for Tisas GI .45 reviews and came across this epic thread.

Classic Arms is apparently selling them as of right about now.

$339.00

 

https://www.classicfirearms.com/sds-imports-1911-a1-government/?trk_msg=F1SB6A4PKOQ4H41L0MDM425A08&trk_contact=6QLPGUMSLAP03900AFG1EN8K0C&trk_sid=SFA7SFK1H5SIELLDN504PRVLR0&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Get+Yours+For+%24339.99&utm_campaign=20190828SDSImports1911A1&utm_content=Primary

 

Anyone going to do a new review?

 

 

[felinesNfreedom]

Never die thread, please go on forever and ever.

[GlockSpock]

Oh yes, a sign of an epic weekend coming up? I think so.