News from South Africa

[leroy]

I urge you to take the time to read this post and think about it: http://moonbattery.com/?p=38987

 

There are elements of government in this country as well as a a goodly number of "civil rights" advocates that have no problems with this sort of stuff... There are reasons other than the "usual ones" (....greed, thuggery, dope...) for black on white crime...

 

leroy

[Chris]

I travel in Africa regularly and I have to say that the racial tensions in SA were much worse than what I experienced in Namibia.

The transition from white rule has not gone well. Don't believe me, look up the history of Rhodesia... now Zimbabwe.

One of the biggest problems (as explained to me by both Boers as well as the tribal folks) is that Mandela and his crew focused heavily on education to bring the tribal population into the industrial age.

The folks that came after him are more wrapped up in ideology (socialist revolution) and have ignored the educational aspects.

Essentially you are looking at having a populace that has only existed at a pre-industrial level trying to operate an industrial and information based economy w/o the education needed to get up to speed.

That is setting yourself up for failure. I really hope that SA doesn't go the way of Zimbabwe. Both the boers and the tribals are fascinating people w/ a warm and welcoming culture... they've just got a really serious hate on for each other.

[R_Bert]

I have traveled 20+ times to South Africa since ~1998. 

 

It is getting worse (and *we* are close on its heels).

 

The land reform stuff has been agenda for a long time.  The communists/socialists are in charge down there. They may not make Zimbabwe, but they will be Africa's Cuba, before it is over due to their leader's fascination with the island and the socialized medicine, education, and marketplace.

Edited November 7, 2013 by R_Bert

[leroy]

I wonder just what is gonna happen when they go up against the real "hard cases" down there like the diamond and gold interests...

I cant believe they will put up with bein robbed or even pushed around... I seem to remember several months ago that 33 or so striking miners were gunned down by their brothers in the South African police... 

 

leroy

[Guest 6.8 AR]

That is depressing.

[Chris]

I wonder just what is gonna happen when they go up against the real "hard cases" down there like the diamond and gold interests...

I cant believe they will put up with bein robbed or even pushed around... I seem to remember several months ago that 33 or so striking miners were gunned down by their brothers in the South African police... 

 

leroy

 

The Chinese have been moving into African mining interests with a vengeance. It'll be interesting to see how they react to nationalization of their assets.

I'm not very familiar w/ politics in the region though. Anyone know what the relationship between China and EFF is?

[BrasilNuts]

I only went through SA a few times on my way to other parts of Africa. I would usually stay a few days when I did go through there though. I never met a White South African that I didn't like, I never met a Black South African that I can recall. All the Blacks I met were always from other countries and were all nice people.

I lived in Zambia close to the boarder of the DRC and would go across the boarder frequently to Lubumbashi DRC. The Chinese are everywhere in DRC building roads and opening mines. While living in Zambia I got to know a White Zambian of Greek desent that is a very prominent business owner there. He was telling me about how when things went sideways in DRC that White mercinaries were sent in to rescue any Whites that they could with orders to shoot anything that was Black. And the did.

The Whites in Africa are the toughest people I have ever met in my life. If the Blacks in SA start a race war they may bite off more than they can chew. I don't know how many Whites there are left in SA because they were leaving in droves when I was last there 5 years ago.

[leroy]

To add a bit to the SA whites vs blacks thing; the white farmers are evidently being picked off one at a time in nighttime raids by black thugs, being tortured, then killed... If ya look a bit at the world news or do a google search ya can find out lots of details ya dont want to know...

 

Most of the folks being murdered are 60 or older and are out in the boonies a good way; most likely old Boerer families with extensive land holdings that are descendents of the original white settlers... The government always "condemns" these acts; but they never seem to catch any perpetrators and the land belonging to the murdered folks have always seems to revert to the gubmt... There are many who believe that that these "death squads" are either government sanctioned; or, at the minimum, the gubmt is turnin a blind eye to the violence ALA the Holder INJustice Department...

 

Things are pretty bad in South Africa for both black and white folks right now; and i dont see that changing much as long as ya have the gubmt they have now... The fact is that the white government wuz a much better steward and protector of the citizens of South Africa than this bunch that the "Mandela Revolution" brought in... I've been whatchin to see exactly what happens down there when the black thugs get brave enough to try the Chinese with this sort of thing...

 

I'm a relatively old geezer (...67...), and ive got a high school buddy whose father was a missionary to the old Rhodesia (....now Zimbabwe...) in the sixties... They had to come home due to the same thing goin on in Rhodesia... That has been over 50 years ago... Things seem to be getting worse and worse on the "Dark Continent"...

 

leroy