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I have always considered myself to be generally on the upper end of firearms maintenance. I usually clean the same day I shoot, and try to field strip and inspect/clean my carry piece monthly. Well, I am here today to say that may not be good enough, and I might not be as disciplined in the firearms maintenance field as I would like to think!

 

I pulled my Glock 19, Gen 3 out of my Raven Concealment Phantom today. The first thing I realized was that there was a little bit of surface rust on the top of the slide towards to front, on the corner. I had an "oh crap" moment, and then began unloading the gun for an emergency cleaning. Upon removing the chambered round, I noticed that the slide stuck a bit but not too much to think twice about. I quickly field stripped it and was horrified! A bit of the barrel had some rust on it, and then I checked inside and the chamber had possibly a bit more than "some" rust. I wept inside, and my heart skipped a few beats. So I started scrubbing on it with patches, paper towels, that little "toothbrush" that Otis sends you, and some bronze brushes. It is, currently, mostly better. However, this was not good! After that got over, I thought to check the chambered round to see what it looked like. I'll post a picture of it up tomorrow just to give an idea of what it looks like.

 

What is frustrating to me is that it has been less than a month since I've stripped her down and wiped her with CLP. If I do something by which I heavily perspire, I'll generally wipe down the exterior that evening if possible. So while cleaning, I was thinking, and I remembered how a few days ago (Monday I think), I noticed condensation on the window, inside. Cool outside, warm inside. I don't know much about moisture and what not inside a house, but my new thermostat is telling me it is currently 43% RH. Sometimes it gets as high as 60% or so. However, in my mind, if it is a humidity issue, I'd think my Glock 26 that stays in the same room would be in similar condition. Nope. I checked it just now and it is free from any rust. So it is either, I suppose, the fact that the Glock 19 sits close to the window (on my nightstand) where perhaps moisture is more likely to condensate, or perhaps my body salts within the last month really hit the Glock 19 hard and I failed in protecting it.

 

It seems odd to me though that I could go through an entire summer of sweating and soaking shirts through, and then finally have an issue in latter October when it starts getting cold. I guess the best thing for me to do is spend more time tomorrow cleaning all of them (just in case), develop a weekly schedule for inspection, buy some more CLP, and also buy one of those silicone cloths that I used to have but eventually through out without replacing.

 

Just a reminder, check your gun (especially those you carry!).

 

I'll post up a few pictures tomorrow. My first instinct was to "clean" but I wish I would have at least snapped a photo or two. I think the chambered round will give somewhat of an idea that it was not something to be taken lightly.

 

Still so frustrating it was literally 2-4 weeks ago that I last field stripped her and wiped her down.  

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Do you never take it out of the holster? I've never had this issue, but I unholster mine each day to lock it up (I have small kids) in the bedside safe. I would imagine that the body moisture and salts get absorbed onto the holster, so it would make sense that it would cause rust if exposed to that for prolonged periods.
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I have always considered myself to be generally on the upper end of firearms maintenance. I usually clean the same day I shoot, and try to field strip and inspect/clean my carry piece monthly. Well, I am here today to say that may not be good enough, and I might not be as disciplined in the firearms maintenance field as I would like to think!

I pulled my Glock 19, Gen 3 out of my Raven Concealment Phantom today. The first thing I realized was that there was a little bit of surface rust on the top of the slide towards to front, on the corner. I had an "oh crap" moment, and then began unloading the gun for an emergency cleaning. Upon removing the chambered round, I noticed that the slide stuck a bit but not too much to think twice about. I quickly field stripped it and was horrified! A bit of the barrel had some rust on it, and then I checked inside and the chamber had possibly a bit more than "some" rust. I wept inside, and my heart skipped a few beats. So I started scrubbing on it with patches, paper towels, that little "toothbrush" that Otis sends you, and some bronze brushes. It is, currently, mostly better. However, this was not good! After that got over, I thought to check the chambered round to see what it looked like. I'll post a picture of it up tomorrow just to give an idea of what it looks like.

What is frustrating to me is that it has been less than a month since I've stripped her down and wiped her with CLP. If I do something by which I heavily perspire, I'll generally wipe down the exterior that evening if possible. So while cleaning, I was thinking, and I remembered how a few days ago (Monday I think), I noticed condensation on the window, inside. Cool outside, warm inside. I don't know much about moisture and what not inside a house, but my new thermostat is telling me it is currently 43% RH. Sometimes it gets as high as 60% or so. However, in my mind, if it is a humidity issue, I'd think my Glock 26 that stays in the same room would be in similar condition. Nope. I checked it just now and it is free from any rust. So it is either, I suppose, the fact that the Glock 19 sits close to the window (on my nightstand) where perhaps moisture is more likely to condensate, or perhaps my body salts within the last month really hit the Glock 19 hard and I failed in protecting it.

It seems odd to me though that I could go through an entire summer of sweating and soaking shirts through, and then finally have an issue in latter October when it starts getting cold. I guess the best thing for me to do is spend more time tomorrow cleaning all of them (just in case), develop a weekly schedule for inspection, buy some more CLP, and also buy one of those silicone cloths that I used to have but eventually through out without replacing.

Just a reminder, check your gun (especially those you carry!).

I'll post up a few pictures tomorrow. My first instinct was to "clean" but I wish I would have at least snapped a photo or two. I think the chambered round will give somewhat of an idea that it was not something to be taken lightly.

Still so frustrating it was literally 2-4 weeks ago that I last field stripped her and wiped her down.


Where you failed is you left it holstered and the metal couldn't breathe thus you got rust lesson learned. Don't store you're pistols in holsters. The only time mine is in a holster is when im carrying it.



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I've cleaned and worked on literally thousands of guns, and used nearly every solvent, grease, lube, etc. on the market. The best by far is Eezox, which likely would have prevented your issue if you don't flat out ignore your gun for months. See the following:

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http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html



+ infinity I use eezox as well. Never any rust issues.

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I've cleaned and worked on literally thousands of guns, and used nearly every solvent, grease, lube, etc. on the market. The best by far is Eezox, which likely would have prevented your issue if you don't flat out ignore your gun for months. See the following:

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http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html


Thanks for this. I leave for prolonged periods of time, so I coat my firearms with a healthy coat of a thick viscosity CLP. It holds up very well against rust, but as it dries it becomes very sticky, attracts dust and has to be cleaned off. I'm gonna grab some of this stuff and use it from now on.
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Just re-read this thread and Caster's on rust issues. And I must admit it makes mw want to break out all the cleaning stuff and get to work on everything I own.

Like Caster, I sweat. I don't perspire. If I work in the yard more that 5 minutes, I look as if I just took a shower with clothes on.

Luckily, I think, I don't have a situation where I have to carry in a work environment; so I probably won't have that big an issue. But I have seen several times where the front sight(stock) on my G19 has a little cruddy growth on it.

So I guess even the world's best pistol can have problems occasionally.
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I'm glad I have a M&P , has stainless coated slide and parts , I feel for you Glock guys man man man hehehe
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The greatest thing I did was to stop using Galco leather and move to a plastic Serpa. The Serpa is much more open and allows the weapon to breathe.
I use the Galco Fletch High Ride for going out and when I have to put on my Sunday Go To Meetin' clothes. Which ain't often.
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The greatest thing I did was to stop using Galco leather and move to a plastic Serpa. The Serpa is much more open and allows the weapon to breathe.
I use the Galco Fletch High Ride for going out and when I have to put on my Sunday Go To Meetin' clothes. Which ain't often.

 

Yep, like my Galco Avenger(?) and a couple of older pieces for some Sigs I don't carry. But it's hard to beat a Serpa for carry comfort and retention. Just a little bulky for me unless wearing a very large shirt or jacket.

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Definitely think the windows probably played into it. Especially if it's single paned. I can see a leather holster causing issues also as the leather will hold moisture.
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+ infinity I use eezox as well. Never any rust issues.

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Heard and read about it before. Very interested in it, this may be just the time for me to give it a try.

 

 

Yep, same story, same feelings. I recovered mine mostly today. My main concern is what the slight rust may have done to the chamber. I cannot imagine that it didn't loosen the internal chamber dimensions up a bit, right (surface rusts, then scrubbing the rust off)? It's still nice and shiny, but I know what it did this last month.

 

Definitely think the windows probably played into it. Especially if it's single paned. I can see a leather holster causing issues also as the leather will hold moisture.

 

Raven Phantom is a hydex holster. I would have taken more precaution if it were a leather holster, but I really figured I'd be ok with a kydex holster. I'm thinking salts and stuff may have built up in the holster. Reckon it will be ok to submerge the holster in warm (not hot) water with some dish soap, right? Also, yep the window was single paned. I have no proof that this affected it, but I see it as a possibility.

 

Right now I am using my $40 Brownells card to purchase a few different products. I'm thinking of building some little "holder/rack" to place the pistol unholstered in at night for defensive purposes. Then I'll line the device with a silicone gun rag.

 

I hate rust.

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CZ9MM , how old is your Glock ? Do you remember when it was test fired dated ? 

 

It's a Gen 3 I've owned for less than a year. I purchased it new last December. Why?

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It's a Gen 3 I've owned for less than a year. I purchased it new last December. Why?

 

 I'm just curious. I only have one Glock Gen 3 of the "newer" Gen 3's. It has been good so far and has been exposed to rain and moisture a lot and stays holstered all the time on my duty belt at work. It is 2 years old. But I am hearing more and more rust issues lately than ever with Glocks. I have gotten rid of my newer Gen 3's for older gen 3's and Gen 2's . I know that it is extremely rare to see a Gen 2 or older Gen 3 rust with the true Tenifer . I think Tenifer is no longer used and this is the only thing I can think of that would be causing these hit and miss rust issues . Supposedly the Tenifer process cant be done in the USA due to EPA and or health restrictions. Possibly not overseas either . I may be wrong . But this is what I have come up with . 

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I think some people must have sweat that's more acidic than others. I've been carrying a gen 3 19 religiously since 2010 and the finish still looks fantastic. 

 

Also, Glock made a huge mistake when they stopped with the tenifer finish. The new finish is horrible. My gen 4 23 is evidence of that.

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I think some people must have sweat that's more acidic than others. I've been carrying a gen 3 19 religiously since 2010 and the finish still looks fantastic. 

 

Also, Glock made a huge mistake when they stopped with the tenifer finish. The new finish is horrible. My gen 4 23 is evidence of that.

 

So, as someone who may be interested in obtaining an older Gen 3 if possible, what year did they stock making the Glocks with Tenifer?

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So, as someone who may be interested in obtaining an older Gen 3 if possible, what year did they stock making the Glocks with Tenifer?

 

I want to say it was sometime in 2010 but I'm not positive. I'm sure a google search would answer your question though.

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I did my entire collection, entire slides and all with Froglube. So far so good. It's not oily or greasy and doesn't leave finger prints.

 

BTW Mr. highpower, I wish I stayed as dry as you do. I'm my own weather system and I rain salty water :rofl:

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