Food stamp cards not working

[tnguy]

Heck, I hesitate to call them dumb-ass. They may have been watching out for the safety of their staff. Then again, just throwing the doors wide open probably wasn't a good idea either.

[Oh Shoot]

Heck, I hesitate to call them dumb-ass. They may have been watching out for the safety of their staff. Then again, just throwing the doors wide open probably wasn't a good idea either.

 

911 isn't on furlough,  if they were truly worried about physical safety.

 

- OS

[BryanP]

Daaang.  That's just special.

[TMF]

911 isn't on furlough, if they were truly worried about physical safety.

- OS

They actually called the police as a precaution when they started looti... er, clearing shelves.

[tnguy]

When seconds count...

 

They probably figured they could either lose stuff or lose stuff and have their store on fire.

[Guest nra37922]

Wish we could dig LBJ up and kick his ass. 

 

So-called 'War on Poverty' started the downward spiral of primarily the blacks.  Now we have the same amount of poverty as 1960 but more issues surrounding it

 

So called 'War on Drugs' hasn't worked and we have more drugs available then ever before. 

 

I wish the Ohole would declare a 'War on Guns' so that I could get a full auto off the books AK, Uzi, or M16 easily...

Edited October 15, 2013 by nra37922

[Oh Shoot]

When seconds count...

 

They probably figured they could either lose stuff or lose stuff and have their store on fire.

 

That's what insurance is for. Seems all other affected stores except for these two Wallies simply nipped it at the bud by not taking EBT at all, all seem to all still be standing.

 

Seems that was the logical thing to do to me. So I still call them dumb asses.

 

- OS

Edited October 16, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[Guest TankerHC]

Sylvia Mathews Burwell worked in the Clinton administration. Deputy White House Chief of Staff. Leaves politics and becomes a Walmart executive. President of the Walmart Foundation. Newtown happens. Walmart execs attend Bidens anti gun propaganda meetings. Several weeks later Burwell is nomated by Obama to become Director of the Office of management and budget. Burwell resigns from Walmart. April Burwell assumes position in Obama's cabinet. And Walmart will have problems with these "incidents"? Don't think so. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2 Edited October 16, 2013 by TankerHC

[Guest TankerHC]

And don't forget Walmart is a sponsoring member of MAIGs Responsible Retail Partnership. That elephant in the middle of the room no one on the pro 2A side seems to want to discuss.

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[Wyldk2]

I'm sorry;  Giving someone so much for every child they have while on welfare seems like us taxpayers are paying them for them reproducing. If you cannot afford a child, please do not have one. Maybe instead of giving out EBT cards we should be giving out vacectomies and having some tubes tied. Maybe instead of promoting reproduction by those that think"they are owed something", some form of contreception instead is given.

 

I know you all have seen the vid of the woman who has (15 kids) by the same guy, and even though she recieves help, she still says it isn't enough. Having 15 kids( a small army) does not entitle you or anyone who is too lazy to get off their asses, something for nothing.

 

I'm all for helping people who need it but welfare should be a temporary solution, not a crutch.

 

Many of the people I work with are HCP owners, though most of them are still in the dark on the dealings by the corporate giant. There are a few who know what is going on. But either work for Wal-mart or try to find a steady job this time of the year, I guess they and I have made our choices.

Edited October 16, 2013 by Wyldk2

[TMF]

And don't forget Walmart is a sponsoring member of MAIGs Responsible Retail Partnership. That elephant in the middle of the room no one on the pro 2A side seems to want to discuss.

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Interesting. I didn't know that.

I do recognize, however, that Walmart is a business and I don't expect them to be an activist one way or another. I'm curious how much Walmart does in sponsorship of gun owner activities, other than being the largest retailer of firearms in the world other than the Russian government. Also, I'm willing to entertain the notion that Walmart execs view the mission statement of Responsible Retail Partnership in a different context than us rabid pro-2A types. Maybe nothing more than them having sound byte fodder when someone kills a bunch of kids using one of those evil "Bushwhacker" firearms that they sell.

[Guest TankerHC]

They are the largest gun retailer because all of those principled 2A supporters are willing to look the other way when it comes to their rights if they can save a dollar. They are the largest retailer BECAUSE of them, not FOR them. The same people who complain about CTG price gouging will buy guns from a company that supports maig while simultaneously bashing maig. But I don't worry about them. I'll just keep my priorities straight and stick to my principles. I've learned a lot over the last 8 months. Most people are willing to trade off their principles to save a dollar.

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[Guest TankerHC]

Interesting. I didn't know that.

I do recognize, however, that Walmart is a business and I don't expect them to be an activist one way or another. I'm curious how much Walmart does in sponsorship of gun owner activities, other than being the largest retailer of firearms in the world other than the Russian government. Also, I'm willing to entertain the notion that Walmart execs view the mission statement of Responsible Retail Partnership in a different context than us rabid pro-2A types. Maybe nothing more than them having sound byte fodder when someone kills a bunch of kids using one of those evil "Bushwhacker" firearms that they sell.

Must not have read the actual changes implemented. Its more than just being responsible. But I will not get into it as everyone seems to be willing to defend Walmart when it comes to the very things they rail against. To be perfectly honest I no longer care. I know amongst my friends and associates who really cares and who doesn't.

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[TMF]

Must not have read the actual changes implemented. Its more than just being responsible. But I will not get into it as everyone seems to be willing to defend Walmart when it comes to the very things they rail against. To be perfectly honest I no longer care. I know amongst my friends and associates who really cares and who doesn't.

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Don't want to hijack this thread further, but I'd be very interested to hear, as I'm sure many other would if you were to start another thread on it. I'm not a Walmart hater, as I interpret their business practices through the eyes of a business designed to make money, but I'm always willing to hear information that I didn't previously know.

[Oh Shoot]

Must not have read the actual changes implemented. Its more than just being responsible.....

 

///, but I'm always willing to hear information that I didn't previously know.

 

 

Can give you a quick link for the overview of Wally and MAIG:

 

http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/html/partnership/partnership.shtml

 

Certainly, the mere mention of MAIG makes me gag, and I hate that, but I must admit I honestly don't see anything in the 10 points that specifically raises my hackles at all, since I don't mind if my FFL transaction is videoed. Maybe I'm missing something.

 

- OS

Edited October 16, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[TMF]

Can give you a quick link for the overview of Wally and MAIG:

http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/html/partnership/partnership.shtml

Certainly, the mere mention of MAIG makes me gag, and I hate that, but I must admit I honestly don't see anything in the 10 points that specifically raises my hackles at all, since I don't mind if my FFL transaction is videoed. Maybe I'm missing something.

- OS

Yeah, I got my google out too, but I do like to hear information interpreted through another person's perspective, in case there is something I hadn't considered or there is supplemental information I'm not aware of. It sounds like Tanker has some strong, well thought out feelings on the subject and I think it would be beneficial to see him start a thread on it.

[Oh Shoot]

My guess is that Wally is in cahoots with and/or gives to all kinds of orgs, probably some I'd like and some I wouldn't, likely same I'd feel about most any other megacorp if I knew all their ties.

 

- OS

[Guest TankerHC]

To be perfectly honest I am not a Walmart hater either. I'll still shop there. But I will not buy another gun from them. I spoke to the head of Walmart corporate distribution about a lot of things back in January. To be perfectly honest again I think it's a genius business move to have a Walmart executive sitting in a cabinet position. But I cannot in good conscious purchase another firearm from them. Firearms are 4% of thier business. I don't see what right I would have to complain about anything when there are small gun shops, home based dealers and companies like Academy that stuck to their end of the Business-2A customer relationship while Walmart was sending money to the very people that are fighting against our rights. More power to Walmart. Keep making a killing and giving people jobs etc. I'll still shop there. But when it comes to the firearms side of the business I will not purchase a firearm from a business that is willing to brag that they are the number one seller while at the same time implementing the policies they have and give MAIG money to fight us. The company executives and owners have no moral courage whatsoever. The principles of leadership mean something to me as well as ethics. One of those principles is to show moral courage. Do the hard right over the easy wrong. Well they took the easy wrong when they didn't need to. Play both ends against the middle. Sorry but I'm not sending my gun money to MAIG then complain about people trying to take my rights away. I'll leave that for others.

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[Oh Shoot]

....But when it comes to the firearms side of the business I will not purchase a firearm from a business that is willing to brag that they are the number one seller while at the same time implementing the policies they have and give MAIG money to fight us.

 

Do we know for a fact they actually contribute money, or this merchant affiliation just a PR "we're careful to make sure our gun sales are safe and legal" hype?

 

- OS

[Guest TankerHC]

I know 100% for a fact they do. I also know 100% for a fact that they implemented every point MAIG wanted them to. I also know 100% for a fact that MAIG touts it as one of their biggest victories. But as I mentioned I am getting to the point of simply listening to and reading how people are tired of having their rights trampled on then supporting companies that at least assist in trampling those rights. I have heard that Academy joined that partnership. I have looked and will keep looking and the minute that I see they did will make my last gun purchase there my last. As I mentioned I really don't care what anyone does. What I think and my actions to some may appear to be a ridiculous one man stand, but that's ok, what I find ridiculous are people willing to support their own constitutional protected rights demise. And like the very religious people here whose opinions I respect but some ridicule I don't give a damn. I'm not infallible of course like any man and have no place to judge anyone but I will not compromise my convictions or back down on them for any person or any reason. That being said (so to speak). I give everyone's opinion the same respect and also enjoy the free market. I don't care if they take a loan from Bloomberg himself, dont even care if they donate to an anti 2A political campaign. I'll just keep on sticking to my one man stand. I know there are plenty of people who think just like me and thousands right here and other places. But the more I see and the more I listen, read and observe I'm beginning to think there really are fewer than I thought. Note: Statistically between18% and 22% of firearms owners voted in the last Presidential election. If our asses are handed to us in 2014 gun owners will be to blame. There are now an estimated 100 million owners with over 400 million gun's. If we alone don't make this an easy across the board landslide and status quo change then my assumptions, to me, are correct. And I have already decided that if that doesn't happen I'm probably going to sell everything I own except for what I need for hd and I'll be out of it altogether. I will consider it a lost cause. The beginning though is to stop supporting our political enemies even if its by proxy and even if for a short time. But we won't. Because it's like throwing a dog a bone to them. They can do what they want then put a gun on sale, add in a rebate and the great deal trumps the obvious. I'll wait and see. But if we aren't out there in droves in 14. Anyone thinks it won't happen need look no further than California and the way the ACA was passed. We lose this time and we lose altogether and we lose all together. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2 Edited October 16, 2013 by TankerHC

[Guest TankerHC]

The Congress can pass laws and the President sign laws that trump the Constitution. They need to pass another one and make voting mandatory.

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[Guest TankerHC]

I'm on a cell phone so it's a PITA to respond to points. But this post illustrates my point perfectly. On the one hand we cannot stand MAIG. On the other hand we don't mind if their points are implemented by the world's largest retailer in firearms. I do have to ask however. Does anyone mind that the reason their transactions are being video recorded is so that if you sell a gun in a private transaction and it is sold 6 more times and is used in a crime the videos will be available to the police to track the firearm to the original owner? If so then there should be zero issues with universal background checks because last year that was the stated purpose of the videos. Normally tapes or any other video is rolled over. These videos are specific to the gun counter and will be kept. Why not the tapes in the toilet paper aisles. Like I said I am not arguing the point. It's still a free country. At least for 12 1/2 more months. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2 Edited October 16, 2013 by TankerHC

[Guest Lowbuster]

Can't tell you the number of students I have who can't afford to eat but have iPods and smartphones. Grr....

[Guest Lowbuster]

Can't tell you the number of students I have who can't afford to eat but have iPods and smartphones. Grr....

People's priorities are all wrong

[Guest Lowbuster]

Confessions of an EBT Leech

In January I was averaging slightly less than a thousand bucks a week before taxes. Then I tore a quad tendon and a few weeks later (after wok comp. kicked in) had about six hundred fifty bucks a week coming in. Then, on March 15th, while on "hawk patrol" in our back yard (my wife had left the door of the chicken run open and the hawks were having a heyday with our bantys), I became the reluctant recipient of a self-actuated adventitious ballistically induced subcutaneous astragalus aperture (my left knee buckled and as I stumbled, I accidentally shot myself in the freakin' ankle with a .357mag rifle - been around guns literally all my life and it's not supposed to happen, but sometimes it just does). Anyway - BANG - six surgeries, several weeks in the hospital and ZERO income from April until the second week in July when I was able to start working part time in our office, making about a hundred eighty bucks before taxes. Since then, I've missed three weeks of work because my wife contracted viral meningitis in mid August and spent a week in the hospital and then needed 24 hour care for a couple of weeks afterwards and there was no one else to help.

Man, talk about being damned glad to be one of those weirdo prepper types! We had enough food set by to get us through quite a spell, but we went through our savings pretty quickly just trying to keep heart & soul together and purchasing "specialty items" that I needed that insurance wouldn't cover.

One of the members here spread the word while I was still in the hospital and a collection was taken and, as much as I detest accepting "charity" of any kind, the money couldn't have come at a better time. I know I haven't thanked the members and friends here on TGO nearly enough and I'd like to take this opportunity to once again thank everyone for the words of support and their donations when I was at my lowest, both physically and mentally. Mere words cannot begin to express the depth of gratitude and humility I continue to feel for the outpouring of support.



I said all that to say this: I'm not out to chew anyone's ass and I agree with some of what has been said here so far and there was a time when I, myself, thought that everyone who received food stamps or an EBT card was lazy and no account and just needed to get off their butts and get a job...

Then all of a sudden I had no choice but to apply for EBT myself. I haven't been able to buy beer or cigarettes or even a hot rotisserie chicken from the grocery store like a bunch of people seem to think. We can't buy gas, batteries, hot nachos, or even freakin' toilet paper. I applied for (and was rejected by) Social Security Disability - figured since I'd paid into it all these years, I'd take a little out until I could get back on my feet (no pun intended). NO ONE wants me to get back to being a productive member of society as much as I do. And as I type this I still don't know if I'll ever be able to go back to work full time. And we're still getting by on less than two hundred bucks a week.

I agree that there are a lot of abuses to the system. I've heard radio talk show hosts go on and on about the worthless EBT card leeches stocking up on steak and pork chops at the end of the month. And I was outraged right along with them. Then I had to become one of those worthless leeches myself. And I found out a few things. I'm not going to bother to share what I've learned here because I've read this thread and I'm beginning to doubt that it would make any difference.

And no, it doesn't look like I've missed many meals. Part of that is because, thanks to careful planning on the part of my wife and myself, I haven't. And part of it is because I still can't get around well enough to get the physical exercise I need to get myself back into decent shape.

There's more I could say, but I won't bother because it won't change any minds and besides I've got to worm my way under the house and work on a water leak that I can't afford to pay a plumber to work on, so I'll leave you with this:

There are a lot of abuses to the system. Not nearly as many as people seem to think, but they do exist. I'm sorry that I'm one of the leeches who uses EBT. If it's any consolation, I haven't bought any ammo, guns or fishing gear since before I got hurt. Every cent I make goes back into our household and I've even been forced to sell off some pretty dear possessions to keep the lights on...

I just pray that none of the gloaters here ever have to eat their words and become an EBT or SSI leech. Believe me, it's not only not fun, it's humiliating and degrading and top of everything else, you get to listen to people you used to respect talk about how worthless you are and what a drain on society you are. Oh sure, they won't mean you, personally, but that's only because they don't know you're an EBT leech. When they find out, they'll feel sorry for you and pity you and become conciliatory...

...and that's even worse.
Don't feel like a leach. When I was disabled it happened suddenly. Like you I thought I was a burden to society. What was worse I felt I could not take care of my family. Things happen that are out of our control. I would like to go back to work and have tried. Work a day and spending a week in bed or hospital don't add up. It takes everyone three tries to get ssi
Disability but if you need it that's why it's there. I wish you the best
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