Democrats to attempt override of Government shutdown as soon as tomorrow

[Guest TankerHC]

The House is meeting tomorrow. First on the agenda is to pass a bill giving retroactive pay to Government employees furloughed during the shutdown for hours not worked.

 

Dems will attempt a Discharge Petition on a Bill that failed in the House three months ago. The Bill, brought by Republicans, would have overrode a funding shutdown for the government (would have funded the Government) automatically if either party failed to pass a Bill. The Discharge Petition will bring that Bill back to life and needs a simple majority to pass with the Discharge Petition..

 

The Dems need 218 votes. 18 Republicans turn and they will overrule the shutdown and the Government will be back open. In effect wiping out any gains the Republicans might have or might have made at the negotiating table.

 

 

They may vote on it tomorrow, looks like it. No guarantee from what I heard but "as soon as" tomorrow. 

 

Edit: Looking at the dates, they may have voted on it today. If not they will soon. 

 

Edit II: Seems Boehner wont allow it. But right now the Dems have 24 Republicans ready to vote for it, a few more and they will be able to force a vote. The date is set for October 14th. 

Edited October 5, 2013 by TankerHC

[Oh Shoot]

Reid isn't going to allow any of the individual House funding bills to be heard.

 

If Boehner would have allowed the vote, the existing Senate bill with ACA stripped would have already passed.

 

- OS

[Guest TankerHC]

They needed 18 Republicans. They now have 24 and the vote is scheduled for October 14th. More Republicrats are expected to come on board because the Senate Republicrats are POd that the conservatives are forcing the House's hand. The Lankford bill will force the clean budget bill Obama has been wanting. Obamacare is already in effect.

 

If it gets to the floor, and with the help of Republicrats it looks like Boehner wont have a choice, it will pass, it will pass in the Senate and Obama will sign it. 

Edited October 5, 2013 by TankerHC

[Oh Shoot]

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If it gets to the floor, and with the help of Republicrats it looks like Boehner wont have a choice, it will pass, it will pass in the Senate and Obama will sign it. 

 

Boehner will be relieved, can say was out of his hands.  He's been held hostage by about 30 Reps through this whole thing and has only had to pretend the House GOP had a totally united front. It was united enough to put the ACA defunding in the first time, but not united enough to shut the government down when Senate sent it back, if he had allowed a vote on it.

 

- OS

[seez52]

a sellout waiting to happen...

[bersaguy]

Well 2014 cannot get here fast enough for me............... :rant: :rant: :rant:

[Oh Shoot]

a sellout waiting to happen...

 

Sellout what for what, exactly? What do you think is best possible that could happen that you would like?

 

- OS

[bersaguy]

Ok, I guess I am brain dead on this. The headline to this thread Democrats to vote to over ride Shut down. Was it not Reid and Obama's plan to shut the Government down all along? What did I miss............... :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

[Oh Shoot]

Ok, I guess I am brain dead on this. The headline to this thread Democrats to vote to over ride Shut down. Was it not Reid and Obama's plan to shut the Government down all along? What did I miss............... :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

 

You have to believe somebody's spin that either side "wanted" to shut it down, period.

 

Certainly the Dem's had no absolutely no reason to even seriously consider it until the ACA condition in the CR was put in by the GOP.

 

- OS

[bersaguy]

You have to believe somebody's spin that either side "wanted" to shut it down, period.

 

Certainly the Dem's had no absolutely no reason to even seriously consider it until the ACA condition in the CR was put in by the GOP.

 

- OS

 

You have to believe somebody's spin that either side "wanted" to shut it down, period.

 

Certainly the Dem's had no absolutely no reason to even seriously consider it until the ACA condition in the CR was put in by the GOP.

 

- OS

Ok now it makes sense .........thanks shoot

[seez52]

As far as I'm concerned it can stay shutdown until the next election.  Won't happen but what will happen is that the longer it goes the more we'll see just how petty big O and the democrats can be. Barricading parking lots of private tourist attractions, blockading open air attractions on DC, removing pump handles from water supplies along a bike route... on and on and on. Eventually all this will mount as the BS it is. Had mr. O crafted and submitted a budget to start with this would probably be completely different, but he didn't and the more it drags out the better.

 

The other thing that irritates the crap out of me is when everyone decries that the ACA was passed through congress fair and square. Well, I guess you can call it that, but if I remember correctly it was passed on Christmas eve near midnight or some other such shenanigan. --- same way the Federal Reserve system was pushed through congress in 1913 or whenever it was. They do this crap under the cover of darkness and when they think the fewest people will be watching. They are all a bunch of cockroaches and deserve more than just being voted out of their positions of tyranny, tar and feathers would be more appropriate.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

The longer this government plays the shutdown card, the less credibility it has. It has little credibility as it is.

I think Obama has much more to lose than he thinks. His little minions can put up barricades on government

facilities all they want, but, at the end of the day, it will cost him much more when he sees the House and Senate

turn bright red. The provisions in the ACA will cost him much more than the Republicans even realize. Cruz

started a war of minds on DC. If only Boehner and the House will stay on target. The American public has an

opportunity to wake up and be counted because of Cruz.

 

Obama will play another card with the debt ceiling and is using this as some kind of precursor to that battle.

I don't think he can win that one, either. We need to keep the pressure on Congress, right now!

[analog_kidd]

So the House passed a 407 to 0 vote yesterday to give back pay to furloughed workers. The Senate will vote on it Monday, and almost certainly pass it. What pisses me off about that is 800,000 government workers just got a week or two free vacation at the taxpayers expense. I would be OK with it, if they actually showed up for work and were working "without pay" temporarily, but to send them home and then give them a paycheck? WTF? Why bother with a shutdown?

[Grand Torino]

As far as I'm concerned it can stay shutdown until the next election.  Won't happen but what will happen is that the longer it goes the more we'll see just how petty big O and the democrats can be. Barricading parking lots of private tourist attractions, blockading open air attractions on DC, removing pump handles from water supplies along a bike route... on and on and on. Eventually all this will mount as the BS it is. Had mr. O crafted and submitted a budget to start with this would probably be completely different, but he didn't and the more it drags out the better.

 

The other thing that irritates the crap out of me is when everyone decries that the ACA was passed through congress fair and square. Well, I guess you can call it that, but if I remember correctly it was passed on Christmas eve near midnight or some other such shenanigan. --- same way the Federal Reserve system was pushed through congress in 1913 or whenever it was. They do this crap under the cover of darkness and when they think the fewest people will be watching. They are all a bunch of cockroaches and deserve more than just being voted out of their positions of tyranny, tar and feathers would be more appropriate.

I'm with you....the federal government is a joke. According to Government Executive magazine’s incomplete tally, 90 percent or more of the staff at the Environmental Protection Agency, Federal Communications Commission, Securities and Exchange Committee, and the Departments of Treasury and Housing and Urban Development are considered “non-essential.” And let’s get real: When the Department of Commerce claims that a relatively tiny 85 percent of its workers are “non-essential,” we know we’re being played. Conversely, anyone who has ever passed through a airport checkpoint in the past decade will find it hard to keep a straight face when the Department of Homeland Security – home to 56,000 Transportation Security Administration workers â€“ says just 14 percent of its crew is non-essential. Overall, 80 percent of federal employees will stay on the clock during the shutdown. It turns out that the feds can’t even do shutdowns very efficiently.

Bottom line...just about every department has the same statistics......just about everything is non-essential. The asshole in chief is only picking and choosing on what he wants to shut down. I hope his choices continue to piss off the majority of people and work against him and the demonrats in the process. In reality though....the libturds socialists and welfare cows outnumber us so those dumbasses will continue to support the party of wrong no matter what. We are screwed.

Edited October 6, 2013 by Grand Torino

[tnhawk]

If the facts were ever known, 95% of the federal government is non-essential. 

[bersaguy]

Well I can agree with everything you said GranTorino 6.8 and Kidd. All good points but then we all knew they would back pay all the blood suckers on the taxpayer payroll so that was a gimme. I read and article today that was talking about the White House staff that si taking care of the Obama family during the shutdown. The servants working at present is 15 that takes care of the resident apartment they first family lives in. That is down from the 90 that normally staffs it. Who in the Hell needs 90 servants to wait on any apartment?  I realize that Michelle does have 10 hair dressers  and he hair still looks like a birds nest regardless and I am sure that each kids must have at least 10 of their own. Let us not forget the dog trainers and care takers for the two dogs. Thing is I don't mind paying the dog care half as much as I hate paying to take care of Barrack and Michelle. I like dogs even ugly ones like they have.............jmho

[Guest TankerHC]

100% of the current Legislative and Executive Branch is not essential. In fact they are not essential, not useful, not worth a sheet and not wanted. 

Edited October 6, 2013 by TankerHC

[Guest TankerHC]

You all see Pelosi a while ago? She announced that enough Republicans have come on board one by one that it is now a bipartisan agreement to have the speaker allow the vote for this clean Bill (No defunding, no nothing) and stop this "REPUBLICAN SHUTDOWN OF GOVERNMENT" and it could pass and the POTUS could sign it as early as tonight. 

 

Way to go Republicans, the Dems have brought you to your knees again. 

 

And before anything is even signed, Obama's attorneys have deemed it COnstitutional to allow furloughed Pentagon employees to return to work, no funding, shutdown or not. 

Edited October 6, 2013 by TankerHC

[Pat]

Let's get the word out and try to clean House, guys... and Senate... I figured the R's would give in first...