VA Shootings News Polls

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Virginia Shootings

Already, ABC news is polling to see if this tragic incident is grounds for restrictive gun control. Predictable. It's almost unthinkable that ABC is already milking this for what it is worth, politically. But they are....

Please participate in this poll, and forward on to others.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/BeSeenBeHeard/popup?id=3046132

"Do you believe the U.S. should have tighter laws on gun control?"

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...mic/index.html

"Carry guns on campus good or bad!"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18174383/

"The Virginia Tech massacre has ignited debate on gun control. Do you think:"

http://www.nypost.com/news/news.htm

http://www.cnn.com/exchange/blogs/quickthoughts/

Question is: Will gun control be a factor when you vote for president next year?

God Bless

William Haley

[Guest kpease]

It's inevitale that our liberal congress of do gooders will use this as an excuse to once again try to outlaw guns. We are the only civilized country in the world that allows un registered personal ownership of any guns. Infact we are the only UN member that allows that. The UN doesn;t like us for that.

We need to keep our constitutional right to bear arms.

Inceidentally now that the real facts about the shooter are coming out maybee the background check should have been marked for the mental health condition. Any one who has been hospitalized for a mental condition shouldn't be allowed to buy a hand gun since mentally unstable people are prone to actions like what we saw.

Also the school and local police had been warened about this persons mental instability.

Kevin

[saintsfanbrian]

kpease - he was sent to the hospital, the hospital did not find him to have a mental defect. This is why he was able to not lie on the 4473

[Guest Voodoo_1]

sermon8r,

Good job finding these links for us to cast our votes.

[Guest kpease]

Virginia and federal law prohibit the sale of guns to anyone who has been sent unwillingly to a mental institution.

He was unwillingly sent to a mental institution. He was released since the only way you can be held in the mental institution is if you are found suicidal. He denied being suicidal and the institution released him.

The fact that there was an involuntary court order excludes him from owning a hand gun.

I realise they released him from the hospital. The fact is he was a verry unstable person. People like that really shouldn't be able to own a gun.

Allowing law abiding citizens to carry a concealed handgun on campus would have prevented some of the deaths since someone could have shot him and stopped the killing. So we should allow concealed wepons on the campus if a permit has been issued. I would not issue a permit to any one who has been diagnosed with a cronic mental disorder.

Kevin

[saintsfanbrian]

I agree fully with that.

But I don't see where Federal Law would have known since this is the form he filled out:

http://www.ocshooters.com/Gen/Form-4473/ATF-FORM-4473-pg1bg.gif

It mentions being adjudicated mentally defective. To my knowledge, being sent to the looney bin by your college doesn't count since it wasn't in front of a judge and the looney bin stated that he was not a danger to himself and let him leave after 24 hours.

[Marswolf]

Found this that may answer your questions:

Federal law bars gun purchases by anyone has been deemed a "mental defective" by a court or ordered "committed to any mental institution."

Under the law, Cho didn't fall into either category, Virginia State Police said Wednesday. He was taken to a mental hospital for evaluation on Dec. 13, 2005. A friend had told police that Cho was suicidal after Cho was accused of stalking female students at Virginia Tech, campus Police Chief Wendell Flinchum said.

The next day, a judge said Cho "presents an imminent danger to himself as a result of mental illness" but declined to commit him to a hospital, according to court documents. Instead, Cho was ordered to undergo outpatient psychiatric treatment.

When Virginia State Police reviewed Cho's March 12 application to buy a 9 mm pistol at a Roanoke gun shop, "we determined he was eligible, and we approved him," said Donna Tate, program manager for the state police Firearms Transaction Center.

Virginia courts must notify State Police when someone has been found mentally defective or committed to a psychiatric institution. "We have no such notification," Tate said.

A doctor who examined Cho at a Virginia psychiatric hospital found him depressed but not suicidal. "His insight and judgment are normal," the doctor said, according to court documents that were part of a file in which a judge declined to order Cho committed to the psychiatric hospital.

[towerclimber37]

He's got you there Kevin...

my fiance is a nurse and she said that 72 hour holds are common with the law enforcement community...and that there was no way to know what this guy was going to do...and she reminded me that the hold had been put on him in 2005...with no follow ups...so I think that he became increasingly self deluded over time....just really good at hiding it.

+1 marswolf!

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