To go brand!

[RC3]

what brands do you guys generally like for rifles? I hear cetmet is not the greatest and DPMS is for entry level. I have a DPMS ar 15 and was thinking about getting another ar 15 (this disease is spreading). I heard that colt has some good ones and bushmaster as well. Who do you guys think would be a  good brand to go with? I would love to put one together myself, but unlike legos, I dont have the proper tools.

[Hozzie]

Best value in my view is the Smith and Wesson's.

[RC3]

Best value in my view is the Smith and Wesson's.

whats the reliability for them? and what price range to they fall in? most of my friends keep saying bushmaster, but I like to keep a every open book.

[Hozzie]

I think an optics ready is around $800 or so.  I don't have anything bad to say about Bushmaster, but in that range, I would personally go with a S&W (and i have one also).  I also have had very high end AR's, but for just a basic AR, S&W is a great value and reliability is excellent. 

 

My main question would be, what do you want to do with it.  If you want to Varmint hunt or something, then my recommendation would change, but for just a normal AR, Smith's are good.

Edited September 16, 2013 by Hozzie

[gregintenn]

I don't know that one brand is better than another inside a given price range. Most of what you hear is strictly personal preference.

 

I have a Bushmaster that is accurate and works exactly as it should without fail.

 

My father has a Colt that does exactly the same.

[RC3]

...... so, for a simple ar to keep around for the range, the brand isnt a big factor then. How would a S&W and a colt compare to a dpms? (sorry, but thats the only ar I have so I have to use it as a base)

[MacGyver]

...... so, for a simple ar to keep around for the range, the brand isnt a big factor then. How would a S&W and a colt compare to a dpms? (sorry, but thats the only ar I have so I have to use it as a base)

Those are three roughly equivalent ARs.  The S&W is a pretty good value for the price it generally runs.  That said, deals can be had for any brand in that class (Colt, Bushmaster, DPMS, Rock River, S&W, whatever) if you look around.

[Hozzie]

...... so, for a simple ar to keep around for the range, the brand isnt a big factor then. How would a S&W and a colt compare to a dpms? (sorry, but thats the only ar I have so I have to use it as a base)

 

I think most people (including me) would tell you that quality would go: Colt > Smith/Bushmaster >DPMS.  Without going into a lot of detail and specs and geek talk, if all you want is a serviceable rifle, any of them will work.  For under $1000, you will get as many opinions as you find people.  I would go look at a few and pick the one you like in your price range.  

Edited September 16, 2013 by Hozzie

[gregintenn]

                                       http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/69134-nib-core-15-16-m4-carbine-reduced-680855/

                                        http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/68605-r-guns-ar-670/

 

Here's a couple of options I would say are very fairly priced.

[whitewolf001]

what brands do you guys generally like for rifles? I hear cetmet is not the greatest and DPMS is for entry level. I have a DPMS ar 15 and was thinking about getting another ar 15 (this disease is spreading). I heard that colt has some good ones and bushmaster as well. Who do you guys think would be a  good brand to go with? I would love to put one together myself, but unlike legos, I dont have the proper tools.

cetmet? You mean a CETME? If that is what you're thinking than that's the original design which the H&K G3(HK91) is based upon. Century imported them and two out of three will be good shooters while the third might need a little "tweaking".

 

AR's are easy to put together but right now is a buyers market what with oversaturation from Firearmageddon, so just buy one. Rock River Arms is solid, as is the S&W M&P but if you get the M&P make sure it is the 1/8 5R barrel.

[RC3]

                                       http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/69134-nib-core-15-16-m4-carbine-reduced-680855/

                                        http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/68605-r-guns-ar-670/

 

Here's a couple of options I would say are very fairly priced.

yeah, I been thinking about getting in touch with him.

[RC3]

cetmet? You mean a CETME? If that is what you're thinking than that's the original design which the H&K G3(HK91) is based upon. Century imported them and two out of three will be good shooters while the third might need a little "tweaking".

 

AR's are easy to put together but right now is a buyers market what with oversaturation from Firearmageddon, so just buy one. Rock River Arms is solid, as is the S&W M&P but if you get the M&P make sure it is the 1/8 5R barrel.

I was also looking for a G3 style rifle and I kept hearing about problems with the century arms ones. I never heard of rock river arms. At first I though you said rock island.

[whitewolf001]

I think most people (including me) would tell you that quality would go: BCM>Colt > Smith/Bushmaster >DPMS.  Without going into a lot of detail and specs and geek talk, if all you want is a serviceable rifle, any of them will work.  For under $1000, you will get as many opinions as you find people.  I would go look at a few and pick the one you like in your price range.  

FTFY   ;)

[Guest ThePunisher]

It's sounds like you're ready to move up from an entry level AR DPMS to a mid tier or top tier AR. Daniel Defense is a great top tier AR that won't break the bank in the $1,500 to $1,700 price range. If you need something cheaper, then Colt or S&W for $1,100 to $1,400.

[whitewolf001]

I was also looking for a G3 style rifle and I kept hearing about problems with the century arms ones. I never heard of rock river arms. At first I though you said rock island.

Ah, in that case look at a PTR91, good quality and use the HK rear drum sight unlike the CETME's goofy flippy paddle sight. Good price point at 800(used)-1250ish(MSRP), plus mags are STILL stupid cheap, not what they WERE but $4.99 still cheaper than AR15 mags.

[RC3]

It's sounds like you're ready to move up from an entry level AR DPMS to a mid tier or top tier AR. Daniel Defense is a great top tier AR that won't break the bank in the $1,500 to $1,700 price range. If you need something cheaper, then Colt or S&W for $1,100 to $1,400.

to be honest, I am trying to stay under $1000 if possible. Working on a 68 bel air and its draining my funds. Along with a audi that never wants to run. But as soon as I get a change, I will try and pick up the PTR that the nashville armory has.

 

Edit: nvm, the armory is gouging the price on the PTR

Edited September 16, 2013 by RC3

[RC3]

Ah, in that case look at a PTR91, good quality and use the HK rear drum sight unlike the CETME's goofy flippy paddle sight. Good price point at 800(used)-1250ish(MSRP), plus mags are STILL stupid cheap, not what they WERE but $4.99 still cheaper than AR15 mags.

franklin gun shop was selling them for I believe $24.99 for 3 mags. But I still cant find a good priced G3. And I am thinking about picking up a better ar rifle and giving my DPMS as a gift for my dad. Since there is no way in hell i am buying him a all numbers matching luger like he had. (and we arent even german! :screwy:)

[whitewolf001]

franklin gun shop was selling them for I believe $24.99 for 3 mags. But I still cant find a good priced G3. And I am thinking about picking up a better ar rifle and giving my DPMS as a gift for my dad. Since there is no way in hell i am buying him a all numbers matching luger like he had. (and we arent even german! :screwy:)

 

PTR-91, $1059 shipped.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=365248517

 

 

I wouldn't buy anything from CTD after the crap they pulled this year BUT this just shows you that they ARE in fact out there.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/MAG-304

Edited September 16, 2013 by whitewolf001

[RC3]

PTR-91, $1059 shipped.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=365248517

 

 

I wouldn't buy anything from CTD after the crap they pulled this year BUT this just shows you that they ARE in fact out there.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/MAG-304

thats an awesome looking prt, but I am trying to stay with with a ar 15 for now. Dont tempt me or I might go forward and pick up an ak 74 too

[whitewolf001]

thats an awesome looking prt, but I am trying to stay with with a ar 15 for now. Dont tempt me or I might go forward and pick up an ak 74 too

[RC3]

not so much as dark side, but I just cant find the one ak for me. I love them all. and I would pick up a 74 any day over an ar15, but I am trying to slowly and surely grow my rifle collection.

[RED333]

HOOKED YOU ARE

[Jonnin]

Best value in my view is the Smith and Wesson's.

 

They are very good.  I now have 3, 2 in 223 and a 308 ... the first one was so good I keep going back! 

[Spurholder]

OP, best deal on a new AR can be found right here:

 

http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/COLE6920MP-B.aspx

[LawVol]

Primary Arms is having a crazy sale on Daniel Defense rifles.  $400 off.

 

You can get a DDM4v7 (modular tube rail version) for $1109 right now.

 

If I were looking for an AR, I'd jump in it (to paraphrase the DirecTV Russian guy)