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I got my C&R from the ATF last week and wasted no time ordering myself a Mosin Nagant 91/30 from Aim Surplus :) Reading over some stuff though, I had some concerns in regard to the law: 

 

- I purchased and logged my recent transfer in a firearms acquisition/disposition record book as required by law. From reading around, it seems as though the ATF will inspect this as well as any gun(s) that I have transferred to me every year? Or did I mis-interpret something? 

 

- I had every intention of buying 2-3 Mosin's (or other milsurps) this year and restoring 1-2 of them and modding the remaining one to put say a synthetic stock on it, adding a scope etc, but then I saw this on the ATF's C&R FAQ: 

 

 

 

Q: What modifications can be made on C&R firearms without changing their C&R classification?

The definition for curio or relic (“C & R”) firearms found in 27 CFR Â§ 478.11 does not specifically state that a firearm must be in its original condition to be classified as a C&R firearm. However, ATF Ruling 85-10, which discusses the importation of military C&R firearms, notes that they must be in original configuration and adds that a receiver is not a C&R item. Combining this ruling and the definition of C&R firearms, the Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) has concluded that a firearm must be in its original condition to be considered a C&R weapon.

It is also the opinion of FTB, however, that a minor change such as the addition of scope mounts, non-original sights, or sling swivels would not remove a firearm from its original condition. Moreover, we have determined that replacing particular firearms parts with new parts that are made to the original design would also be acceptable-for example, replacing a cracked M1 Grand stock with a new wooden stock of the same design, but replacing the original firearm stock with a plastic stock would change its classification as a C&R item.

 

 

I don't intend to sell any of my milsurp's that I acquire as a C&R transfer, so does this only apply to say something I wanted to re-sell? In my mind (and I'm sure the government has a different idea) if it's my gun that I own I would think I could do as I please with it, but that may or may not be the case and is what I am seeking clarification on.

 

Anyone have any experience with these situations? 

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Modifying to the point that it is no longer C&R only would apply if you wanted to resell it.  Has nothing to do with what you keep.

 

For example, if you put some type of plastic stock on a Mosin then tried to sell it to a C&R holder in another state then you could not do so.  It would have to go through an 01 FFL. 

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....From reading around, it seems as though the ATF will inspect this as well as any gun(s) that I have transferred to me every year? Or did I mis-interpret something? 
 
Not even a C&R holder here, but think about just the mathematical possibility of that being accurate.
 
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Inspections can take place at your house or their office - your choice.  And most C&R holders have not been inspected.  I've been a C&R for over 15 years, not yet inspected.  My understanding is that inspections usually come when they are actually looking for something.

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