Nashville Tea Party meeting tomorrow about Lamar

[Guest 6.8 AR]

This from Worriedman, just in. I plan on being there. Hope to see more of us there.

 

"This Saturday!! BeatLamar Forum Sat Aug 31 1PM-3:30PM - Music City Sheraton - Hear from the candidates who want to Defeat Lamar Alexander"

 

What a great way to use part of the Labor Day weekend: doing something about Lamar!

 

The Nashville Tea Party is a great way to meet like-minded individuals, and they usually have great speakers.

I sat with Red333 at the one at the Maxwell House meeting in Nashville. That one was very informative to me

and, as usual, every time I get to see that "Uncle Phil" Valentine, I can't quit laughing.

 

This bunch is serious about weeding out Lamar and I will support them. I hope all of you feel the same way.

[Guest ThePunisher]

Thanks for the notice. Hope to be there if nothing comes up.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I will do anything I am capable of to assist in the unseating of Lamar Alexander. C'mon guys and gals! It takes people,

not money. Cruz, Paul, Pence, etc need our help with putting someone worth a damn in the senate. Groundswells of

support make things happen.

 

Saying you will only vote to unseat by voting for the opposition only replaces tyranny with tyranny. Getting someone

in office who stands for the people is what we want. It's the best shot at attracting outside organizations to come in

and support us, like the Tenth Amendment Center, Heritage Foundation, and do something against the direction the

Republican Party has been heading for years. This is what primaries are for.

 

True libertarians and constitutional conservatives can work together, rather than against each other, if they decide to.

We are better than where we are heading right now. C'mon!

[kieefer]

FYI

 

http://nashvilleteaparty.com/

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Heading that way. Hope to see some faces I recognize. :D

[Guest ThePunisher]

Great Tea Party rally to "Beat Lamar". Moderator David Webb of Fox News fame did an outstanding job, and both Joe and Kevin answered questions and manifested impressive speaking abilities to debate and defeat Lamar. Keven had an ooops moment on answering about 2nd A and gun rights, and that will hurt him among gun owners. Great grassroots rally to defeat Lamar. Edited September 1, 2013 by ThePunisher

[Guest 6.8 AR]

You meant to say David Webb, I hope. Good to know you were there, also. I wish we'd met. I saw Worriedman in the lobby.

 

I didn't get the part about Ralph Bristol somehow being biased toward one of the candidates, but I did get to shake David Webb's

hand. I like that man a lot.

 

Both candidates were good, but I liked Kevin's answers and attitude. I'd vote for either one of them. Kevin is less of a politician

than Joe Carr, whether or not it matters in this race, butt he appears more articulate, like Ted Cruz. I guess you know who I voted

for, now. :D His foreign policies were much more concise to me. I know that is a bit micro, but he got my attention when it came to

that question.

[kieefer]

Who is this Kevin you speak of?

[Guest ThePunisher]

Who is this Kevin you speak of?

Kevin Kookogey the founder of Linchpins Of Liberty and attorney from Franklin. There was a vote between Joe and Kevin as to who may win the support of the Tea Party. Don't know the results yet as who won. Kevin was very articulate in his answers and speech, but I was disappointed he wasn't prepared for the 2nd A question. I will vote for either candidate that gets the support to run against Lamar.

[kieefer]

Kevin Kookogey the founder of Linchpins Of Liberty and attorney from Franklin. There was a vote between Joe and Kevin as to who may win the support of the Tea Party. Don't know the results yet as who won. Kevin was very articulate in his answers and speech, but I was disappointed he wasn't prepared for the 2nd A question. I will vote for either candidate that gets the support to run against Lamar.

 

Thanks, (the libs are going to have a field day with his name)

 

http://www.linchpinsofliberty.org/

 

So we have two willing to challenge LemonLamar, good.   

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Actually three. Brenda?, who ran against Corker in that primary, is included, but wasn't here, today.

This is more like a run off to who the Tea Party will select to back in the primary against Flannel Shirt.

It's supposed to be decided by October, and give a year to consolidate the run. Good idea. Lamar will

have the money and we will have to do the ground work. I'm in.

Edited September 1, 2013 by 6.8 AR

[Worriedman]

There will be five (5) events total across the State to give voters a chance to see these two.  Brenda Leonard failed to show today, so that will take her out of the other four (4).  Three of the remaining venues will be Johnson City, Maryville, and Memphis, old age prevents me from remember the last, but I will try and garner that information and report.

[frankmako]

whom ever is up against lamar on our side has got my vote.   corker is getting to be the same with me too. 

[Oh Shoot]

....Kevin was very articulate in his answers and speech, but I was disappointed he wasn't prepared for the 2nd A question...

 

Been mentioned twice -- what was his stumble?

 

- OS

[npgunner]

Been mentioned twice -- what was his stumble?

- OS

+1; can someone enlighten us those that couldn't make it today? Thanks ahead of time!

[Worriedman]

+1; can someone enlighten us those that couldn't make it today? Thanks ahead of time!

 

I don't know that he "stumbled", he just did not seem prepared to really light into a full frontal answer.  The question was what would the candidate do regarding recent Presidential actions or something to that effect. Carr was off his stool and frothing at the bit, but then he has always been a real meat and potatoes 2nd Amendment guy.  Kevin is a lawyer, and seemed to be measuring his response.  The Punisher can expand.

Edited September 1, 2013 by Worriedman

[Guest ThePunisher]

Been mentioned twice -- what was his stumble?
 
- OS

If I can remember correctly, I believe the question was what he would do as Senator to help stop the infringement of the 2nd A. He replied to something like "I didn't prepare for that question" , and replied to something like " all of the Constitution rights were important". Maybe 6.8 or Worriedman can answer better. My impression was that he wasn't as knowledgeable about guns and the 2nd A.

[Worriedman]

If I can remember correctly, I believe the question was what he would do as Senator to help stop the infringement of the 2nd A. He replied to something like "I didn't prepare for that question" , and replied to something like " all of the Constitution rights were important". Maybe 6.8 or Worriedman can answer better. My impression was that he wasn't as knowledgeable about guns and the 2nd A.

I think you have it pretty much summed up.  But, we have to remember he is an attorney, and they are not taught Constitutional Law, they are force fed tort stuff, it would be counter productive for the Establishment if the lawyers really understood the Constitution.

 

I remember watching a Democrat lawyer (Lowe Finney) and a Republican lawyer (Brian Kelsey) both absolutely either lie about the 10th Amendment, or so badly misunderstand its reason for being that I threw up in my mouth in a Senate Judiciary hearing on SB250 last year.  They both said the supremacy clause trumped the 10th.

Edited September 1, 2013 by Worriedman

[Guest PapaB]

If I can remember correctly, I believe the question was what he would do as Senator to help stop the infringement of the 2nd A. He replied to something like "I didn't prepare for that question" , and replied to something like " all of the Constitution rights were important". Maybe 6.8 or Worriedman can answer better. My impression was that he wasn't as knowledgeable about guns and the 2nd A.

 

That's a shame. It says to me "I'm not really interested in 2nd Amendment issues". Worriedman mentions he's not a Constitutional lawyer but that doesn't cut it with me. SCOTUS has said the 2nd Amendment was written for the comman man to understand, you don't need to be a Constitutional lawyer. He really wasn't being asked a Constitutional Law opinion, he was being asked a political question.

 

 From the main opinion by Scallia  in DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ET AL. v. HELLER;

In interpreting this text, we are guided by theprinciple that “[t]he Constitution was written to be understood by the voters; its words and phrases were used intheir normal and ordinary as distinguished from technicalmeaning.” United States v. Sprague, 282 U. S. 716, 731 (1931); see also Gibbons v. Ogden, 9 Wheat. 1, 188 (1824). Normal meaning may of course include an idiomatic meaning, but it excludes secret or technical meanings that would not have been known to ordinary citizens in the founding generation.

 

A candidate for US Senate should at least be able to articulate some opinions on the Bill of Rights portion of the Constitution. I've not heard or met either man yet but I hope they get to the Cookeville area.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I think that partial stutter was another question. He sounded four square behind the 2nd Amendment, to me.

The only thing I noticed about Kevin was he was not as loud. He could have brought up the volume a little and

projected. Joe was good, but got sidetracked a couple times. I thought it almost got to the point of a politician's

filibustering of an issue. He needs to correct that before it gets out of hand and anyone else notices it.

 

He and Kevin, both, were good on the issues being posed. I preferred Kevin's answers to several questions due

to my personal beliefs on how a politician should be successful in front of a camera. As much as I hate to say this,

and I really do, the successful politician should stay with the question asked and not embellish with personal beliefs

that others may construe as pandering to one group or another. I believe in God, already, and it does nothing to

stir my vote when a politician has to pronounce his belief. That's a problem area. It's even terribly obvious on this

forum.

 

I also think all politicians, to get a damned tingle down my leg(:D) should stay focused on the question and not worry

how much time they have to spend(or waste) trying to convince me on their view. These two didn't get too far down

that path and it was refreshing, but they weren't always in front of a camera. In other words, I just want a simple answer,

and not dressed up for Sunday dinner, like so many other pols think they have to do.

 

Either one of these two would be able to beat Lamar in a head to head debate, though, and that's good enough for me.

I look forward to the primary.

[Guest ThePunisher]

I agree, Kevin just needs to be a little more animated. Appearances before the cameras means a lot to people's perception of candidates. I don't want Kevin to be compared to someone like the dull Congressman Jim Cooper of Nashville. Of course all Dumacrats are dull.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

The problem with any pol is when they get to the point of embellishing and proving to the world they believe

in everything their potential constituents want. That's where the phrase "how do you tell when a politician is

lying? They're lips are moving", comes from. All I want, and Tennessee, and the rest of the country needs

are more politicians who are only constitutionalists and stewards of it.

 

As far as I'm concerned, all these emotional bastards, the ones who launch on pushing emotional buttons

within each individual, to get elected, need to all be lined up and shot. They are the cause of every one of

this country's problems. Knowing that will never happen is disconcerting, but it needs to be recognized.

either that, or they need to move to another country.

 

If Lamar won't just retire, he needs to go with that bunch. He is of no use to Tennessee, any longer.

[kieefer]

From an article on the 28th in the rag called the Tennessean, Tim Burchett is on the list along with the rest, Brenda Lenard, Joe Carr and Kevin K. to challenge LameLamar.

From the article it said Burchett polled better than Carr but it seems too early to pay much attention to polls. No doubt the TN'sean will be selling LA anyway.