New Aquisition! M1 Carbine by IBM

[Ramjo]

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I was at the Kingsport Meadowview Convention Center gun show this afternoon, where I picked this!

Edited August 5, 2013 by Ramjo

[austin7.62]

Very nice find!

[Ramjo]

Very nice find!

Thank you sir! 

[roverboy]

Very nice. Have you had a chance to look it over good yet? Nice bore?

[Ramjo]

Very nice. Have you had a chance to look it over good yet? Nice bore?

Yeah the crown is in good shape and all that...still need to clean all the oil from peoples' hands off of it  :yuck:

[bubbadavis]

I searched for an IBM for years. Finally got one about 4 years ago. I figured if I'm getting a Carbine, it should be an IBM - I've spent my entire career in embedded software so it just made sense.

[Ramjo]

Here it is with my other recent purchase, Remington 1903A3. That stain looking spot on the stock is where I had oiled the stock then grabbed it and smeared it.

 

[GKar]

Saw a couple of em there on Sat, but this one looks better than any I saw.  Nice find!

[A.J. Holst]

You may want to think about reloading .30cal once you realize how fun it is to shoot!

 

We popped off 150 rounds yesterday and my buddy now wants one.

 

What was your price point? I paid 750 otd a year ago for a '43 Underwood receiver / '44 Inland barrel (Intrac Bavarian import)

 

Your 1903 looks to be in awesome condition too!

[Ramjo]

Nice rifle... Is it all matching?

Havent taken it apart to check that out yet.

[Ramjo]

You may want to think about reloading .30cal once you realize how fun it is to shoot!

 

We popped off 150 rounds yesterday and my buddy now wants one.

 

What was your price point? I paid 750 otd a year ago for a '43 Underwood receiver / '44 Inland barrel (Intrac Bavarian import)

 

Your 1903 looks to be in awesome condition too!

I guess I will share...picked for $550. No tax or background. Private sale. The cheapest auction I could find on gunbroker for an IBM was 645 with 23 hrs left, so I know I got a steal, but I would really like to know what it could potentially be valued at (not that I would sell at this point...)

[gregintenn]

You are looking at $700-$800 if it is a mixmaster, as most of them are, or $2000 up if original.

 

Either way you got a great deal. After you shoot it, you'll not want to part with it. It's like a large scale 22. A really fun plinker.

Edited August 5, 2013 by gregintenn

[Raoul]

I guess I will share...picked for $550. No tax or background. Private sale. The cheapest auction I could find on gunbroker for an IBM was 645 with 23 hrs left, so I know I got a steal, but I would really like to know what it could potentially be valued at (not that I would sell at this point...)

 

I'm jealous. Great deal!

I'm looking forward to a range report.

[Garufa]

Looks good.  :up:  

 

You got it for a great price.

[A.J. Holst]

At 550 you got a money maker, though I'd keep it because you won't replace it st the same price.

400-500 is what folks are trying to pull out of post war Universals.

"Matching" M1s are rare, the odds of having all IBM parts is slim since virtually all of them have had at least one arsenal rebuild.

You may have lucked out and have an IBM barrel. Check the stamp to the rear of the front sight, should show mfg'er and date of production. 

My guess sight unseen would be a quick flip at 700, 8s max.

Over 1000 they have matching barrels though may not be original to the receiver and/or a war bring back / early CMP purchase with little to no wear.

I was bidding on a Rockola receiver/barrel a few months back and it went for over 1500. Lower production volumes, safe queen condition and "coolness" factor.

Shoot and enjoy, TNoutdoors9 has some vids shooting 200/250/300 yards, amazing little carbine in the right hands!

[Ramjo]

Thanks guys. I will disassemble and report on the serials. I have shot them before, so i know how fun they are.

[Hershmeister]

Score!

[RichardR]

Congrats man, that's a darn fine looking IBM, I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya hoping that it'll turn out to be all matching & unmolested! But heck iffin she shoots as good as she looks then I personally wouldn't even care if nothing matched, especially for that price.

Looking forward to reading a more detailed range report *hint-hint*.

[Bigiron]

Excellent find.

[Ramjo]

*UPDATE* 

 

Just from an external examination, I have both an IBM barrel and receiver. The rear sight is probably not original. It says I.R.CO. (ingersoll rand?) and has a different serial number than the receiver.

[tnhawk]

Nice find!  i didn't get one a few  years ago when I should have.

[A.J. Holst]

I.R.CO. is for International Register.

 

7160020 is the part number and correct for IBM.

 

It's a type III which was late war production, depending on your s/n it could be original. 

 

My Underwood has the same sight, but assume it was replaced during its arsenal rebuild; my receiver has a 7/43 mfg date. 

 

Matching barrel and receiver is gold!

[Garufa]

*UPDATE* 

 

Just from an external examination, I have both an IBM barrel and receiver. The rear sight is probably not original. It says I.R.CO. (ingersoll rand?) and has a different serial number than the receiver.

 

M1 carbines often have matching receivers and barrels for a couple of reasons:  1)  .30 carbine was the only non-corrosive ammo used by the US in WWII. 2) Less cleaning was necessary because of 1 and that round is not particularly hard on barrels.

 

Chances are the front sight is original is well.

Edited August 6, 2013 by Garufa

[A.J. Holst]

M1 carbines often have matching receivers and barrels for a couple of reasons:  1)  .30 carbine was the only non-corrosive ammo used by the US in WWII. 2) Less cleaning was necessary because of 1 and that round is not particularly hard on barrels.

 

Chances are the front sight is original is well.

 

Wealth of info on this forum!

 

Doing a little more googling I found that a later dated barrel may still be original to the the receiver even if a mix master; can indicate assembly date.

[Ramjo]

Well looks like I'm gonna have to take the hand guard off and see if they match.

 

Gee guys, where is the barrel serial number? And looks like the trigger guard was replaced with Inland.

Edited August 7, 2013 by Ramjo