Confiscation by any other name...

[Spots]

Is still confiscation. I would be intrested to see what it takes to revoke one of the FOID cards. I know some mention drugs, one mentioned a man who was suicidal, but who makes that call? I really don't like where this is going, but it doesn't surprise me from these commie idiots.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/21526485-761/cook-county-sheriffs-team-taking-guns-if-foid-card-is-revoked.html

Tapatalk ate my spelling.

[mikegideon]

This is so predictable. Once our 'tarded friends are boxed in by laws, they'll play the mental health card as much as they can.

[vontar]

Just a friendly reminder to stand against any type of gun registration. 

Seems they have a list of these guns and know what they are looking for.

[RobertNashville]

Is still confiscation. I would be intrested to see what it takes to revoke one of the FOID cards. I know some mention drugs, one mentioned a man who was suicidal, but who makes that call? I really don't like where this is going, but it doesn't surprise me from these commie idiots.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/21526485-761/cook-county-sheriffs-team-taking-guns-if-foid-card-is-revoked.html

Tapatalk ate my spelling.

I can understand why you would want to remove guns from the home/possession of someone who, for example, is truly suicidal or has been convicted of a violent felony but there is ZERO reason or justification for just taking firearms like this...these firearms have $$$ value and no one should have to lose the value of these weapons just because they can no longer legally own the weapons...someone should at least get the money and it shouldn't be Chicago (of course they really do need the $$$ since they are in almost as bad a financial as most of the libitard run cities and states).

[Guest nra37922]

As I posted elsewhere, Firearms what firearms?.  One can always say that you gave them away to a family member from out of state the last time they visited.  British tried this BS 200+ years ago which led to the Battles of Lexington and Concord.

 

Oh and by the way even though I have relatives that live there - FRICK Chicago.

[RobertNashville]

As I posted elsewhere, Firearms what firearms?.  One can always say that you gave them away to a family member from out of state the last time they visited.  British tried this BS 200+ years ago which led to the Battles of Lexington and Concord.

 

Oh and by the way even though I have relatives that live there - FRICK Chicago.

Illegal is still illegal...someone correct me if I'm wrong but just because residents of two different states are standing in the same state at the moment doesn't mean you can transfer a firearm between the two without going through an FFL.

 

 

Now if you don't care about bringing that kind of trouble down on your head that's your choice but I believe the way the FOID cards work is that they also know what firearms you have so you had damn well better be able to account for them and if you transfer them, do it legitimately - just saying "firearms what firearms" is not going to get you very far.

Edited July 26, 2013 by RobertNashville

[TMF]

You can lend guns all day long without going through an FFL. I have several firearms on loan to family members in other states and have a few at my house on loan from then. Loans between family members tend to be indefinite, but it doesn't mean I don't own it.

[Guest nra37922]

Sold at gun show no records kept...

[RobertNashville]

Remember people we are talking about ILLINOIS here; not a free state!  Just because you can do something in TN or FL or MO doesn't mean it's legal to do in Illinois.

 

You cannot just go buy/sell a firearm at a gun show in Illinois with no record as you can in many states...you can do private transfers but both people must have valid FOID cards and they must show them to each other and the state requires you to keep pretty much the same info an FFL keeps and you must keep the info for no less than 10 years...just say you "sold it at a gun show" and you had better be able to prove it and who you sold it to.

 

I also doubt that you can just "lend" a firearm to anyone once your FOID card has been revoked (you can't lend a firearm to someone that you can no longer legally own).

 

Keep banging your heads against the wall if you want but you should either follow the laws of the state you chose to live in or get out and move somewhere else.

Edited July 26, 2013 by RobertNashville

[TMF]

It's all hypotheticals, but the state would somehow have to prove that you gave your stuff away after you were not legally allowed to have it. Then there is the issue that they would need proof that you ever illegally possessed it in the first place. Owning a firearm at some point and possessing a FOID card is not sufficient proof that you committed a crime, sorry.

If I was a civilian of The People's Republic of Illinois, there is still nothing stopping me from securing my firearms out of state with a relative. What if I leave town? What if I want to keep them in another state so I don't have to travel with them or have them shipped? FOID card or not, it would still be my property.

Hell, if I lived in that God forsaken state I would make it a point to keep my good firearms out of state as much as I could. That isn't breaking the law at all.

[npgunner]

California has been doing the same thing since 2007. Don't have a link to the story right now, but found it in another thread here somewhere.

[Guest nra37922]

It's all hypotheticals, but the state would somehow have to prove that you gave your stuff away after you were not legally allowed to have it. Then there is the issue that they would need proof that you ever illegally possessed it in the first place. Owning a firearm at some point and possessing a FOID card is not sufficient proof that you committed a crime, sorry.

If I was a civilian of The People's Republic of Illinois, there is still nothing stopping me from securing my firearms out of state with a relative. What if I leave town? What if I want to keep them in another state so I don't have to travel with them or have them shipped? FOID card or not, it would still be my property.

Hell, if I lived in that God forsaken state I would make it a point to keep my good firearms out of state as much as I could. That isn't breaking the law at all.

Not a perfect arraignment but one can drive from Chicongo to Carmel Indiana in less than 3 hrs.  Would not help in an emergency but does allow you to keep your firearm in a safe deposit vault and out of the hands of the Chicongo goons.

 

Course having a FOID card means so much to the gangbangers.

[Guest Bonedaddy]

Who says I wouldn't have decided that all guns are EEEVVIIIIIIIILL and took'm for a boat ride to the middle of Lake Michigan and tossed dey ass overboard? Reckon they would spend the money to find'm? Could they even give me a litterin' ticket since they have no proof? Could they make me pay for a dive team to look for'm even though I couldn't afford it? What could they really do to me in that situation?

[Spiffy]

I'm actually surprised to see them even rounding them up. The law there says you have to have card and if you don't keep it paid up you lose those guns. Nothing illegal about it or evil. They are simply following the rules and laws that they were stupidly passed. 

[crossfire]

Here is a link to the Illinois State FOID Act. Be prepared to spend some time trying to read it. I was born in the Peoples Republic and lived there for 48years. I had to put up with this BS for the last 27 years I lived there as it was passed in 1968.

 

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1657&ChapAct=430%26nbsp%3BILCS%26nbsp%3B65%2F&ChapterID=39&ChapterName=PUBLIC%2BSAFETY&ActName=Firearm%2BOwners%2BIdentification%2BCard%2BAct%2E

 

[TMF]

I'm actually surprised to see them even rounding them up. The law there says you have to have card and if you don't keep it paid up you lose those guns. Nothing illegal about it or evil. They are simply following the rules and laws that they were stupidly passed.

I agree, but they're trying to make having an expired FOID card as PC to have your house searched or an automatic warrant on your residence. That is wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

[c.a.willard]

Worse case for Illinois id tell them i sold them at one of the gun buy backs.  Legal transaction and no records are kept from the buy backs so it would be up to them to prove you didn't.