Lessons learned from the Zimmerman/Martin tragedy

[broox]

This child is dead.  I think it is appropriate to show a little more respect.

 

or at least not be so insulting/vulgar

Edited July 8, 2013 by broox

[Smith]

This child is dead. I think it is appropriate to show a little more respect.

or at least not be so insulting/vulgar

Decorum police - check! Now all we need is a grammar Nazi and this thread will be complete.

In all seriousness TM was just the canvas that was used to paint a larger picture.
Respect and civility left this topic 3 months after it happened.

[RobertNashville]

This child is dead.  I think it is appropriate to show a little more respect.

 

or at least not be so insulting/vulgar

You are probably right.

 

At the same time, I suspect people would grant them a little more respect if they...

 

1. Were more than bio-parents
    
2. If they hadn't sued the home owners association (who had ZERO to to with their son) for a $Million payoff
    
3. If they hadn't turned this (with much help from the media and race-baiters like Jackson and Sharpton) into a racial incident where the "white-Hispanic" killed their son, and
    
4. If they hadn't tried to sanitize Trayvon's image and make him into something he clearly wasn't

 

I'll grant them a little bit of sympathy for the death of their son but I don't respect people unless their actions justify it; in my opinion, Trayvon's parent's actions don't justify a lot of respect.

[wewoapsiak]

Lesson leaned is that you really need to buy and wear Google Glasses and record everything.....

Relevant:  First arrest captured on Google Glass.

[RichardR]

You are probably right.

At the same time, I suspect people would grant them a little more respect if they...

• Were more than bio-parents
  
• If they hadn't sued the home owners association (who had ZERO to to with their son) for a $Million payoff
  
• If they hadn't turned this (with much help from the media and race-baiters like Jackson and Sharpton) into a racial incident where the "white-Hispanic" killed their son, and
  
• If they hadn't tried to sanitize Trayvon's image and make him into something he clearly wasn't

I'll grant them a little bit of sympathy for the death of their son but I don't respect people unless their actions justify it; in my opinion, Trayvon's parent's actions don't justify a lot of respect.

Agreed.

Add to that a clearly innocent man, forced to defend himself from being brutally victimized by their son, only to be further victimized by the parents, race-baiters, media & the *cough* justice system & I have very little sympathy for anyone except for Zimmerman at this point.

[MattCary]

I have learned my family is probably better off if I am killed rather than use a gun to defend myself.

 

And Mike wins the internet today. This is the lesson we are all supposed to learn from this debacle.

[mikegideon]

This child is dead.  I think it is appropriate to show a little more respect.

 

or at least not be so insulting/vulgar

 

This child was a thug. Have respect if you want. I'll pass.

 

[Guest Bonedaddy]

That would make a good Memphis themed practice target. Go on, pitch a fit. I don't care.

[Guest nra37922]

SHOW ME DA MONEY

[JAB]

More lessons learned:

 

Just because a person might not be criminally guilty in his use of deadly force doesn't necessarily mean he is a good and favorable representation of all gun owners.  It is possible to be 'not guilty' and still be responsible for having been a dumbass who should have stayed in the vehicle.  Therefore, lesson learned:

 

Don't be a dumbass.  If there is no clear, imminent threat stay in the vehicle and let the cops sort it out.

Edited July 8, 2013 by JAB

[DaveS]

This child is dead.  I think it is appropriate to show a little more respect.

 

or at least not be so insulting/vulgar

Thank you sir!

 

Dave

[DaveS]

This child was a thug. Have respect if you want. I'll pass.

 

Really? I've seen this picture so much on here, hell, I might make it my avatar!

 

Dave

[RobertNashville]

That picture says about all we need to know about sweet little Trayvon and as for being vulgar, just look at the picture for a perfect example of it.

[mikegideon]

Really? I've seen this picture so much on here, hell, I might make it my avatar!

 

Dave

 

As you should :)

[Guest Bonedaddy]

I've probably got a Polaroid of me doin' the same thing, somewhere 'round here. Good thing it's not on the net or I might wind up target fodder. :popcorn:

[mikegideon]

I've probably got a Polaroid of me doin' the same thing, somewhere 'round here. Good thing it's not on the net or I might wind up target fodder. :popcorn:

 

If you're gonna put up a picture, make it one of those front porch deer hunting pictures :)

[East_TN_Patriot]

Seems like Zimmerman could have followed that advice, hmm?

So we just sit back and let the good ol' .gov take care of us?  Considering the police have no lawful obligation to protect us and are very unlikely to respond in time to do anything, I wish more people would take responsibility for the safety of their community.  Could GZ handled it differently?  Perhaps, but we don't really know what happened.  It doesn't matter what he did leading up to the actual altercation.  If his story that he was being beaten so badly that he thought his life was in danger, he has the lawful ability to use deadly force.  As long as he did not initiate the physical altercation, he did not deserve to be attacked.  Even if he did initiate the altercation, he did not deserve being beaten so badly that he felt his life was in jeopardy.  People's responses to this are not much different than blaming a rape victim for her victimization for being at a bar and wearing a tight skirt. 

 

My personal suspicion is that GZ was a bit over-zealous, probably approached TM, they got into a verbal altercation that escalated into a physical altercation, and when TM got the upper hand and began to bash GZ's head into the concrete, GZ fired off a gunshot.  I predict that GZ will be found not-guilty.   

Regardless, as I've said in other threads, this should make all these mall ninjas, armchair commandos, and wanna-be John Waynes floating around the Internet have a second thought about their belief that they can shoot anyone who gives them a cross look.

Edited July 9, 2013 by East_TN_Patriot

[Guest Bonedaddy]

If you're gonna put up a picture, make it one of those front porch deer hunting pictures :)

Wish I had one of me actually shootin' the thang in my p-jays and house shoes from behind me so I'd have good proof. I still haven't defleshed the head, yet but it's almost dried out, now. Might just hang it like it is over the boat shed. He musta been a nasty buck cuz even the flies left the head alone.

[Mike.357]

I also have learned I really want to know why I can't see peoples point that Zimmerman murdered this kid.  I don't see it.  What am I missing?  ( and intelligence it not an answer)

[Mike.357]

If you're gonna put up a picture, make it one of those front porch deer hunting pictures :)

 

 

yep put it up you bony assed fart

[Guest Bonedaddy]

Gotta learn how ya'll do it on here, first.

[Mike.357]

i agree it is pretty difficult,  I have no clue how I got my pic posted as an avatar.

[Guest Bonedaddy]

Tried to change mine. Kept sayin' it was too big. Hell, the one I got come from my 'puter pics. I don't have a clue how to resize it for an avatar. Real 'puter whizz, I am.

[Mike.357]

I agree you are a wizz

[Guest Bonedaddy]

Whachitnow. The meds have affected that, too, ya know?