PRI or Tom Givens

[Superman]

 PRI has Handgun II in Franklin on Sept 14-15 and Tom Givens is going to be teaching a Handgun course that same weekend in Camden, TN. Was going to sign up for PRI but then found out about the Tom Givens course. Would like input from people that have taken a course from either, but especially from people that have been to both. thanks

[tnhawk]

If you're going to use a 3" compact 1911, don't bother taking a class with Tom Givens. Otherwise I've heard he's a good instructor. Edited July 4, 2013 by tnhawk

[Superman]

I dont own a 1911 so I am good there.lol

[TN-popo]

I've had experience with both.

Tom Givens.  Hands down.

[Jamie Jackson]

I haven't trained with PRI. But I've taken a few classes from Tom, and attended several of the Tactical Conferences at Rangemaster.

 

Tom is Top Tier, knows his stuff and how to teach it, and is a Great Guy all around. You can't go wrong with Tom.

 

 

 

 

there must be a "backstory" with the 3" 1911 tnhawk. :cool:

Edited July 2, 2013 by prag

[Superman]

I've had experience with both.

Tom Givens.  Hands down.

Thanks TN

 

I haven't trained with PRI. But I've taken a few classes from Tom, and attended several of the Tactical Conferences at Rangemaster.

 

Tom is Top Tier, knows his stuff and how to teach it, and is a Great Guy all around. You can't go wrong with Tom.

 

 

 

 

there must be a "backstory" with the 3" 1911 tnhawk. :cool:

My guess is they havent worked well in his courses. Rob Pincus says the same thing, compact 1911s dont work well through a multi-day course.
There is a short video on youtube where Pincus talks about 1911 failures in his classes.

[Guest WGDII]

I've known Tom since '98. He is a fine instructor, and you couldn't do better!

[Jamie Jackson]

 

 

My guess is they havent worked well in his courses. Rob Pincus says the same thing, compact 1911s dont work well through a multi-day course.
There is a short video on youtube where Pincus talks about 1911 failures in his classes.

 

 

Good point my friend.

 

Please give us some feedback, an AAR if you will, on the course you choose.  TIA.

[Spiffy]

Rare is the compact 1911 that works for long anyways. Truly made to carry not to shoot.

[Cruel Hand Luke]

Not to kick anyone's pet goldfish, but the truth of the matter is that the most reliable 1911s are the full size ones.

 

Most of the chopped down ones that I have seen have some kind of issues . Now whether that was gun related, magazine related, or whether it was shooter induced, I do not know. Generally the people shooting these guns do not really want to discuss WHY their gun is not working, they are just angry that they spent that much money on the gun and it is not working. 

 

I'm not saying ALL shortened 1911s are problematic. I'm saying that I see far more problems from compact 1911s than I see from full size ones. 

Edited July 9, 2013 by Cruel Hand Luke