Had a very disturbing conversation last night

[Dolomite_supafly]

A few days ago I was in a voice chat online when the conversation turned to Barrett 50's. At that point I mentioned the fact Ronnie Barrett refused to service any of his weapons on California since they banned them. And this one guy said "F**K Barrett, we need those weapons for when we have the Oscars and other events like that". I honestly thought the guy was being sarcastic because of his tone of voice.
 
And this is what has upset me for the last 24 hours now.
 
Then last night the conversation came up about bullet buttons and high capacity magazines being illegal in California. This guy is from California and bragged about having high capacity magazines and AR's without bullet buttons. He went down a laundry list of weapons and when asked why he can have them he said he was a police officer.
 
I asked why he is allowed to have high capacity magazines as well as AR's and we are not. His response, word for word, was "I have the right to protect myself and you don't". He went on to say that no "civilian" should be allowed to own a high capacity magazine, semi automatic rifle or any firearm at all. He said assault weapons  are a weapon of war and belong on the battlefield, not on the streets even though he carries one every day. He said the only thing a "civilian" should be given permission to own is a flintlock and if a person wanted to they could put a picatinny rail on it. He went on to say "I can use whatever means necessary to protect myself from you civilians", his words not mine, "and no civilian should have the right to protect themselves". He said that is what his job was. He was asked about his response times and he said his units average response time was 7 minutes. He was then  asked what happens when he isn't there to protect us. He said that doesn't matter and that we should not protect ourselves while we wait. 
 
He said he has worked for LAPD for 18 years and is a liberal through and through that has guns. He threw out all the popular Feinstein and Pelosi catch phrases.
 
I can't imagine how many "civilians" he has treated badly or used excessive force because he has a "right" to do so or that because he believes we are less of a human being than him. He probably is right, he probably does need to worry about protecting himself if he believes he has a right to protect himself from "civilians" that have no right to protect themselves.
 

I am not upset at the fact he doesn't think we should own high capacity magazines or "assault weapons". It is the fact that he believes he has the right to protect himself and I do not. Or that there is two standards, his and everyone else's.

 

 

[TrickyNicky]

Sounds to me like you were either being trolled or you had the dubious honor of speaking to one of the 5-10% of LE that gives the rest a bad name.

Should have had some fun with him.

[RichardR]

That mindset is actually not all that uncommon.

[Spots]

Dude sounds like a troll looking for attention.

sent from the backwoods

[Dennis1209]

Holding my jaw off the kitchen table, unreal...

 

As a nation we have become so divided. He and his ilk are doing everything possible to destroy the Constitution. More and more people in authority are trying their best to get us under servitude.

[BrasilNuts]

He has a disease.

One day he will meet someone that has the cure.

[Dolomite_supafly]

I have listened to him for about a week now on a game server I have started playing on. He doesn't spew this nonsense unless it comes up.

 

He is NOT a troll and he IS in LE. He has all the mannerisms and nuances most anyone who has been in LE has.

 

This is the same kind of attitude that contributed to me leaving LE for good. This is not to bash LE because 90% of them are great people who actually care and want to do what is right. The other 10% give the 90% a bad name with their antics.

[klamb5]

Should ask him if his last name was Dornen

[jtmaze]

Let him stay in LA and call all true conservatives to the East of the Rockies then Write them off.

[Chucktshoes]

I will try and walk this line as carefully as possible.

Folks like him are the enemy, no two ways about it. Especially when folks like him are allowed into a position where they have any sort of perceived power or authority. The second best method of dealing with people like that is that once they are discovered, expel them from their positions and prevent them from ever again having more responsibility or power than a volunteer crossing guard. That man and those like him are the enemy, and should be treated as such. Edited June 29, 2013 by Chucktshoes

[TN-popo]

I've been a cop for about 20 years...Depts ranging in sizes from 1450 sworn to my current one that's about 75 sworn.

Yeah, I've met these types.  A minority, but they exist everywhere.  Yes, it's sickening.

 

Anyway, geography also matters.  LAPD, NYPD, Boston PD, etc., their political views (along with their Dept's and State's), generally, will be vastly different from a TN cop.  Believe me, I used to live/work in New York.

Currently, I supervise 13 officers...and I'm pretty proud of them when it comes to stuff like this.

Edited July 1, 2013 by TN-popo

[Randall53]

He has a disease.
One day he will meet someone that has the cure.

No....he IS a disease.....worse than cancer. Just like Pelosi, Reid and all the rest. Edited June 29, 2013 by Randall53

[Metalhead]

What game is this and what is his gamer tag so I might destroy him.

[vontar]

well, from what I understand there was something about a Supreme Court case that officers don't have to put themselves in danger to protect anyone.  Seems it really isn't there job. 

 

So I will stay prepared to protect myself.

[Sam1]

Has to be a troll, or some wannabe leo that for some reason could never make it in the business.

[TN-popo]

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Edited June 30, 2013 by TN-popo

[TN-popo]

Has to be a troll, or some wannabe leo that for some reason could never make it in the business.

 

Did you not read posts 1, 7, and 11?

[Dolomite_supafly]

Anyone who has been in LE for any amount of time can pick out other LE. Even former LE are easy to pick out if they have done it for any amount of time. It is easy in person by how they stand and only gets easier when they speak. Voice only is a little more difficult but you can still hear little things here and there that are clues. I wasn't 100% sure, but had an idea, until he said he was LE then everything came together.

 

Anyone who has been in LE, as TN-popo can attest, can spot fellow officers off duty because of how they hold themselves as well as how they talk and act. Some are harder and some easier but they all give off little clues.

[UncleJak]

Anyone who has been in LE for any amount of time can pick out other LE. Even former LE are easy to pick out if they have done it for any amount of time. It is easy in person by how they stand and only gets easier when they speak. Voice only is a little more difficult but you can still hear little things here and there that are clues. I wasn't 100% sure, but had an idea, until he said he was LE then everything came together.

Anyone who has been in LE, as TN-popo can attest, can spot fellow officers off duty because of how they hold themselves as well as how they talk and act. Some are harder and some easier but they all give off little clues.

true. I've been around leos all my life and they are a slightly different breed. I know hundreds of great cops and a handful of crappy ones.
The small town I live in caught some of their officers on audio tape saying they wanted people to fear them like la or ny cops. They got fired. We don't need officers like that. We need officers who want to help people.

sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

[Caster]

You wasn't talking to Lon Horiuchi was ya?

No probably not but its those guys that make blanket support of all LEOs difficult some times.

[Guest nra37922]

Beauty of the internet is that one can come up with a signin name like assclown as see what they can stir up from the safety of their home.  Best word of advice is don't feed the troll and go about your business. 

[Mike.357]

Gordon next time you talk to him tell him Mike Hahn said to go "F" himself.   Except add the "uck" to it.   I have no respect for those who think they are better than others.  He sounds like a total jackass and if possible I would tell him how I feel personally.  

 

Yeah,  I should not defend myself or my loved ones but he can?  Yep, he can go pound sand.

[Dolomite`s Breezy]

I bet that statement goes out the window when his daughter or wife is getting raped by someone..

 

 

Double standards..:)

[Erik88]

I bet that statement goes out the window when his daughter or wife is getting raped by someone..

 

 

Double standards.. :)

 

Haven't you heard? They don't need a weapon for that. Simply urinate or vomit and the bad guy will move on to another victim.

[mav]

If ARs are weapons of war, as he stated, then who is he at war with? The answer has to be us, civilians. I agree, people with his mindset are the enemy.