semi-auto short barrel shotgun(NFA)

[nightrunner]

who makes a semi-auto short barrel shotgun? i know that you can do short barrels on saiga 12s but what about something like say a remington 1100 or 11-87? or some other semi-auto shotgun

looking for something comparable to the serbu super shorty

Edited August 6, 2008 by nightrunner

[Reservoir Dog]

The Serbu SS is actually classified as an AOW, not a SBS. Which is good since you only have to pay $5 for the stamp, versus $200 for a SBS.

I have never seen a semi-auto AOW like the Serbu. I am not even sure a gas operated system would cycle reliably with that short of a barrel. Maybe it would.

[nightrunner]

The Serbu SS is actually classified as an AOW, not a SBS. Which is good since you only have to pay $5 for the stamp, versus $200 for a SBS.

I have never seen a semi-auto AOW like the Serbu. I am not even sure a gas operated system would cycle reliably with that short of a barrel. Maybe it would.

i knew about the AOW status on the Serbu.

i was wondering about the gas system. i think it would have to be tuned for the specific barrel length it was used on. i dont think you could just take a 18" barrelled remington 1100 and cut the barrel down to say 8" and put on a pistol grip and expect it to operate reliably.

[Reservoir Dog]

Yeah, +1 on the custom tuning. They would definitely have to make the gas ports larger. It could probably be done, I just have never seen one.

The shortest barrel I have seen on a semi-auto shotgun was a 10" on a Benelli M1. Of course, the Benelli is recoil operated. I have a Benelli M1 SBS with a 14" barrel, and it certainly has a bit of recoil.

[nightrunner]

was that 10" benelli pistol grip or shoulder stock?

[Reservoir Dog]

The Benelli was a registered SBS, so it had the shoulder stock (w/ pistol grip). I saw it in pic someone posted online.

[Guest janwbrown616]

who makes a semi-auto short barrel shotgun? i know that you can do short barrels on saiga 12s but what about something like say a remington 1100 or 11-87? or some other semi-auto shotgun

looking for something comparable to the serbu super shorty

I have an 11-87 Police Special with an 18" barrel and 7 round magazine.

works for me....

[molonlabetn]

Remington makes a 14" 11-87 and 1100... Benelli makes a 14" M1 and M4. Haven't seen any shorter than that, probably hard to tune the gas system. But, if I was going to do it, I'd lean towards a shortened Benelli M1, which doesn't rely on gas.

[Guest sling]

Remington makes a 14" 11-87 and 1100... Benelli makes a 14" M1 and M4. Haven't seen any shorter than that, probably hard to tune the gas system. But, if I was going to do it, I'd lean towards a shortened Benelli M1, which doesn't rely on gas.

+1 on the Benelli M1. Shot a few of them and they're really nice. They do have a kick to em.

[molonlabetn]

Yeah... I had one for a little over a year, wish I still did.

[Guest Coal Creek Armory]

Remington makes a 14" 11-87 and 1100... Benelli makes a 14" M1 and M4. Haven't seen any shorter than that, probably hard to tune the gas system. But, if I was going to do it, I'd lean towards a shortened Benelli M1, which doesn't rely on gas.

Very true. Anything shorter would need to be in pump configuration to cycle reliably.

That being said, we are a Benelli 'tactical' dealer and can order you the M2 or M4 SBS if you're interested.

We are also a Remington 'tactical' dealer and can handle those for you as well.

[molonlabetn]

I'd really love to see one of these FN SLP guns in an SBS configuration... I love mine, but it's a bit long for anything but outdoors competition.

[nightrunner]

I'd really love to see one of these FN SLP guns in an SBS configuration... I love mine, but it's a bit long for anything but outdoors competition.

absolutely my preferences for the base gun were FN SLP, remington 1100, remington 11-87, benelli M4, possibly a mossberg 930.

[molonlabetn]

Wasn't real impressed by the Moss 930, once I actually held and examined one... haven't heard many good things about their reliability either.

[nightrunner]

i really dont like the mossberg 500 or 590 so i knew id hold a 930 before i tried to get a SBS/AOW in one

[Guest thorn]

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=109593

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=106767937

You can't put a pistol grip on an 11-87, I'm not sure about others. When Scattergun was in Nashville they would drill the ports out on the SBS and they only considered them reliable with 3" ammo.

Edited August 9, 2008 by thorn

[TNRobocop]

SOG International in the last couple of dealer flyers I have gotten in are advertising used 14" Remington 1187's for sale for $599.

34" overall, 3" chamber, cylinder bore, extended mag tube for 6 rounds total, and adjustable ghost ring sights.