DHS Preparing For War Against U.S. Citizens

[Guest AmericanWorkMule]

Retired Army Officer Posts Dire Warning On Facebook:
DHS Preparing For War Against U.S. Citizens

 

 

 

Dear friends, the following is a copy of my correspondence with Senator Cornyn concerning the arming of the DHS for war against the citizens of our nation. You are each encouraged to copy and properly amend this letter to send to your own senators and members of the U.S. House.

 

http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/05/16/retired-army-officer-posts-dire-warning-on-facebook-dhs-preparing-for-war-against-u-s-citizens/

 

 

 

 

 

[austin7.62]

Tin foil to the max!

[RichardR]

Tin foil to the max!

I wonder if that's what every other citizen of every other communist country thought just prior to it happening to them.

[vontar]

Hey, the recent news about the NSA gave some credibility to some of those that where tinfoil hats.

 

From The Daily Show "good news, you're not paranoid"

Edited June 12, 2013 by vontar

[austin7.62]

I wonder if that's what every other citizen of every other communist country thought just prior to it happening to them.

I don't know.

Perhaps I should ask my dads stepfather, who was an army officer to say that the DHS is preparing war against us. Then I could watch many a people shit their pants in panic.

[RichardR]

I don't know.

Perhaps I should ask my dads stepfather, who was an army officer to say that the DHS is preparing war against us. Then I could watch many a people #### their pants in panic.

An estimated 85 to 100 million people were rounded up by their own governments & "disposed of" in the 20th Century, the vast majority of those killed by their own governments were living under communist regimes.

Genocide isn't tin-foil hat stuff, it actually happens more than most folks realize, make no mistake about it ... it most certainly can happen here, just as it has happened time after time, in country after country, in fact if history is any sort of indicator, genocide is almost guaranteed to happen when communists seize power.

I'm not "fear-mongering" I'm just stating the facts, communists don't play well with others, once they seize enough power absolutely no dissenting opinions are allowed, let alone any sort of actual opposition, if you dissent a little in opinion you are re-educated, if you dare to physically resist you are executed.

This is their modus operandi & we should keep a watchful eye on those who keep such a watchful eye on us.

[austin7.62]

An estimated 85 to 100 million people were rounded up by their own governments & "disposed of" in the 20th Century, the vast majority of those killed by their own governments were living under communist regimes.
Genocide isn't tin-foil hat stuff, it actually happens more than most folks realize, make no mistake about it ... it most certainly can happen here, just as it has happened time after time, in country after country, in fact if history is any sort of indicator, genocide is almost guaranteed to happen when communists seize power.
I'm not "fear-mongering" I'm just stating the facts, communists don't play well with others, once they seize enough power absolutely no dissenting opinions are allowed, let alone any sort of actual opposition, if you dissent a little in opinion you are re-educated, if you dare to physically resist you are executed.
This is their modus operandi & we should keep a watchful eye on those who keep such a watchful eye on us.

I feel that.


And I would venture to say that 85 to 100 million Chinese ALONE were "disposed of" under chairman Mao.


That being said, I am tired of the fear mongering that is going on around here and elsewhere. I tend to be a paranoid person myself, but remember that just because something is said on Facebook doesn't mean everyone has to flip the hell out.

[fourteentwo]

I have experienced the progressive underminings of citizens' rights by a tyranical government in my country of birth Venezuela.

 

That is how they started, undermining the value of the military and having them participate in civil tasks, making them loosen their deffese of the border with Colombia and ignore  FARC which is the narcogerrilla terrirosts, doing these things more and more of the true patriot military leaders either oppossed and quit or were kicked out or imprisoned.

 

At the same time these communists led by Chavez, taught and mentored by the Castros, began arming parallell groups of militias called "Circulos Bolivarianos" who were used to terrorize the citizenry. At the same time the national guard was being purged of any opposition and given more and more power to control internal ('domestic") uprisings... through all this they made it harder and harder for the common citizen to own guns finally banning gun ownership but for a select few with influence, a lot of money or connections with the goverment and always blaming the raising crime rate for said gun control.

 

Right now people are finally waking up and realizing the terrible damage Chaves's reign did and what his sucessors are doing, they're waking up because they are no longer blinded by the prescence of their hero. It is a critical time in the country after the current administration that took over with Chaves's death stole the elections and have been forcing all powers to legitimize it. 

 

The problem is that the opposition and the citizens who now know they are the majority have no choice but to hold peaceful protests and ask for international intervention. At all these peaceful protests a few people die, more are wounded and many imprisoned, less and less people go now in fear of what happens. The "Circulos" "Tupamaros" and other armed groups terrorize and hurt people while the national guard who act like they are not there but they ride motorcicles carrying long guns in plain flags like they were flags. less and less people will protest in the street.

 

It is very unlikely the corrupt government will fall. 14 years going on 15... His first canpaign run was on CHANGE and the end of traditional corrupt government. 

 

I could'nt yet vote and was telling my friends not to vote for him, his associations warned us he was a communist. They all laughed at me with similar insults as your tin hat joke.

 

This is serious.

 

I couldn't yet vote here when I was telling all my friends about BHObama's associations, I became a citizen and voted agaist him in the second election, it's all I have done until now I am writing this... I am convinced he read Chavez's history and is following his and Castro's manual...

 

This is serious.

 

Before dismissing it like it were a joke let's all just look at the facts and read the history. The communists are reading the history, they know how to make us not do anything until it is too late.

[partypilot1]

I was in and out of Venezuela many times during 2002/2003, some crazy times while I was there, during ,,the strike. I see many parallels to the current party and have been warning people for awhile now. I was operating out of uMiaquetia at the time

[Guest AmericanWorkMule]

This is serious.

 

If our country falls, as if something like this Gang of Eight amnesty bill passes, then who will we ask international intervention from?

 

China?  hmmm

 

 

....The problem is that the opposition and the citizens who now know they are the majority have no choice but to hold peaceful protests and ask for international intervention.

 

[Guest flashlight Dave]

I feel that.


And I would venture to say that 85 to 100 million Chinese ALONE were "disposed of" under chairman Mao.


That being said, I am tired of the fear mongering that is going on around here and elsewhere. I tend to be a paranoid person myself, but remember that just because something is said on Facebook doesn't mean everyone has to flip the hell out.

 

Facebook is where I found out Morgan Freedman was dead!

Edited June 13, 2013 by flashlight Dave

[RichardR]

but remember that just because something is said on Facebook doesn't mean everyone has to flip the hell out.

But it wasn't "just a facebook post", it was the action's of our government that prompted the Capt. To write that facebook post.

The fact remains that the DHS is militarizing, the only reason for it to do so would be to wage war against the American people, there is no other reasonable explaination for a domestic federal law enforcement agency to buy over 1.6+ billion rounds of ammunition & over 2,700+ MRAP vehicles.

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” - Obama.

Ask yourself to what purpose would such a mighty domestic/civilian security force be needed?

Are all of our current law enforcement agencies so completely inept & ineffective as to require a "domestic army, that rivals the U.S. Armed Forces?

[scoutfsu]

This bullshit again??????  Here you go: http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/62043-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks/ and to save you some time (even though he went through and edited his article, the numbers haven't changed): http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/03/robert-farago/the-truth-about-the-dhs-mraps/

 

Its not 2700 vics. 

 

And it's not 1.6 Billion rounds of ammunition.  That was cleared up.  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/reps-challenge-dhs-ammo-buys-say-agency-using-1000-more-rounds-per-person-than/   1.3k-ish per person?  I laugh at that.  Sounds like a good weekend or a pistol course or two.  350 for the Army?  Sounds about right.....and thats fucking embarrassing.  The only reason I'm able to shoot as much as I can is that I'm in Afghanistan.....and I'm still having trouble sourcing 9mm. 9mm in Garrison is even worse.

 

Who falls under DHS for this training/duty ammo?  CBP, ICE, Air Marshals, USSS, FLETC, Coast Guard, INS, etc.  There are a lot of agencies who need to train.  Don't cry foul when they ask for ammo .

 

Its also an IDIQ contract, not a purchase order. 

 

Also, this "retired" Captain....what's his deal?  I would love, love, love to read his OER's.  Just reading the last entry on his bio makes me wonder: http://combatsoldier.wordpress.com/about/  He was NOT in the 82nd.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I don't know.

Perhaps I should ask my dads stepfather, who was an army officer to say that the DHS is preparing war against us. Then I could watch many a people #### their pants in panic.

Perhaps you should. But keep in mind who is DHS and how it was created, and who they say are the terrorists. It

doesn't add up, does it? Dig a little deeper in your history books and tell me the don't look like they could easily

be the Gestapo. History repeats itself all the time. And, if you are still hung up on the word "tinfoil", remember that

tinfoil was what the OSS/CIA was founded by.

[Guest nra37922]

As long as the 'free' stuff keeps coming a LOT of citizens could give a rats rump about anything else.

[DaveTN]

I don’t fear that my government is going to attack me…. Period (they couldn’t if they wanted to). However I don’t agree with this build up in DHS. Repeal Posse comitatus and we don’t need more DHS. If an incident happened that called for military or law enforcement intervention on a large scale; I would feel better having those that took the military oath involved than those in DHS.

 

 

[TMF]

This bullshit again?????? Here you go: http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/62043-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks/ and to save you some time (even though he went through and edited his article, the numbers haven't changed): http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/03/robert-farago/the-truth-about-the-dhs-mraps/

Its not 2700 vics.

And it's not 1.6 Billion rounds of ammunition. That was cleared up. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/reps-challenge-dhs-ammo-buys-say-agency-using-1000-more-rounds-per-person-than/ 1.3k-ish per person? I laugh at that. Sounds like a good weekend or a pistol course or two. 350 for the Army? Sounds about right.....and thats fucking embarrassing. The only reason I'm able to shoot as much as I can is that I'm in Afghanistan.....and I'm still having trouble sourcing 9mm. 9mm in Garrison is even worse.

Who falls under DHS for this training/duty ammo? CBP, ICE, Air Marshals, USSS, FLETC, Coast Guard, INS, etc. There are a lot of agencies who need to train. Don't cry foul when they ask for ammo .

Its also an IDIQ contract, not a purchase order.

Also, this "retired" Captain....what's his deal? I would love, love, love to read his OER's. Just reading the last entry on his bio makes me wonder: http://combatsoldier.wordpress.com/about/ He was NOT in the 82nd.

Chow hall outa Cliff bars, huh?

[scoutfsu]

Hahaha funny enough I took the last one from DHHB today.  I'm a sucker for the things.  I haven't seen a Cliff Bar in any of the DFACs here.

 

 

And to clear up a bit about my last post about the CPT for non-military.  He may have been in a PRT attached to the 82nd (which he was) but his bio intentionally makes it appear the he was IN the 82nd, if that makes sense.  It's a subtle difference that people try to expoloit.  He can wear their SSI on his right sleeve but not his left (because he deployed at less than a company level - he can wear the next higher unit's SSI as his "combat patch").  He, like me, deployed with USACAPOC/CACOM.  Just because I'm part of JCTF-3 does not mean I am in 3rd Infantry Division.  I am ADCON to them....the miserable bastards that they are.

 

FWIW, I think it would be cool if DHS wanted to share some of that ammo with little ol' me.... :wave:

[fourteentwo]

The point I was trying to make is that you should not immediately dismiss somebody's comments or warnings as a laughable matter, I find it hard to believe somebody would make this stuff up just for the heck of it but if they do I will find out for myself and make my own opinions, if I don't believe any of it and it happened to be true then it's my fault, if I don't do my research and go and get ready cause the sky's falling then it's my fault too. He's also not telling people to start stockpiling ammo and guns and get ready to fight the war, he's just telling people to write to their congressman and express concern, is that unreasonable?

 

Another favorite tactic of the communists and the fascists (they now call themselves socialists because it doesn't have such a negative connotation) has been to destroy the reputation of whoever makes a negative comment about them. We shouldn't do this to ourselves. I don't know which side the patches go on but I admire and respect anyone that has served and I will thank them for their service anytime I get the chance.

 

I don't fear the government is going to attack me either, I have a family and will avoid confrontation and run when I can, that is why I'm not in Venezuela anymore. If you stay home they will not attack you. They will be quick to put down the slightest bit of uprising though and that's the idea, once we all know what they're willing to do we will all stay home and keep going through the daily motions. Free to go about your own business as long as you let them keep going about their business. If that's your kind of freedom then you'd be happy here, in Zimbabwe, England or Venezuela. 

 

I know that's not the kind of freedom I was seeking when I moved here with my family or when I decided I wanted to become a US Citizen.

[RichardR]

We know have confirmation that the NSA has been & is currently spying on, collecting & storing data on every single American citizen, I'd imagine that Obama wanted to know "who is who" in this country for a reason, what is the reason?

It's code name "prism" is very telling, what does a prism do? It seperates the invisible spectrums of light into individual easily identifyable/visible wavelengths.

That is what the program does, it allows for "We the People" to be split & placed into catagories based on our individual political/ideological beliefs.

But why? What possible reason could this administration have authorize & fund something like this? I think most folks already know the answer, they just prefer to deny even the possibility that their fellow American's would ever do such a thing

I suffer from no such delusions, people are people regardless of what country the live in & historically speaking this prism program is just the newest of all of the other methods communist's have used to "seperate the wheat from the chaff" in the other countries that they have seized power in.

[Sam1]

This bull#### again??????  Here you go: http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/62043-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks/ and to save you some time (even though he went through and edited his article, the numbers haven't changed): http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/03/robert-farago/the-truth-about-the-dhs-mraps/

 

Its not 2700 vics. 

 

And it's not 1.6 Billion rounds of ammunition.  That was cleared up.  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/reps-challenge-dhs-ammo-buys-say-agency-using-1000-more-rounds-per-person-than/   1.3k-ish per person?  I laugh at that.  Sounds like a good weekend or a pistol course or two.  350 for the Army?  Sounds about right.....and thats ####ing embarrassing.  The only reason I'm able to shoot as much as I can is that I'm in Afghanistan.....and I'm still having trouble sourcing 9mm. 9mm in Garrison is even worse.

 

Who falls under DHS for this training/duty ammo?  CBP, ICE, Air Marshals, USSS, FLETC, Coast Guard, INS, etc.  There are a lot of agencies who need to train.  Don't cry foul when they ask for ammo .

 

Its also an IDIQ contract, not a purchase order. 

 

Also, this "retired" Captain....what's his deal?  I would love, love, love to read his OER's.  Just reading the last entry on his bio makes me wonder: http://combatsoldier.wordpress.com/about/  He was NOT in the 82nd.

 

 

How dare you contradict the internet!  Next thing you know I'm going to find out that there was not really a lizard man as a secret service officer

[scoutfsu]

Haha, no that one is totally true Sam.   Some random guy on YouTube told me so.

 

 

Look, I have a healthy fear of the Government too.  I am not a fan and in my opinion MORE Gov't is the WRONG answer for this country.  They can and will exceed their boundaries and when they do, it is our job to put them back in place.  Unfortunately most would rather sit back in front of the TV, eat their fried food, drink their Super Sized Coke, and hold their hand out.  THAT is what will end this country, not MRAPs (which hey by the way, if Muhj who live in the 13th Century can catastrophic a truck, think what a 1st world citizen can do).

 

Spouting off every moonbat claim just b/c you don't trust the Gov't lessens your credibility (again, IMO).

 

And for those that aren't military, you might just not get why I have a bone to pick with the CPT.  He is deliberately exploiting the subtleties of the system to bring himself in a better light.  But I guess that is typical of a CA officer :rofl:

[RichardR]

Unfortunately this isn't a "make believe boogieman" that we are talking about here & the mocking of someone is a tactic taken right out of Cloward-Piven's handbook.

But I realize that it's difficult to have a reasonable conversation about the reasons why our intel agencies are spying on every single American, or why are domestic police forces are "militarizing" to the point where they'd rival our military in size & funding as was Obama's campaign promise.

Asking why is only "moonbat" to folks who wish to squelch the discussion, personally I'd like some answers on those reasons why& not just denials, double-talk or mockery.

[DaveTN]

Unfortunately this isn't a "make believe boogieman" that we are talking about here & the mocking of someone is a tactic taken right out of Cloward-Piven's handbook.

But I realize that it's difficult to have a reasonable conversation about the reasons why our intel agencies are spying on every single American, or why are domestic police forces are "militarizing" to the point where they'd rival our military in size & funding as was Obama's campaign promise.

Asking why is only "moonbat" to folks who wish to squelch the discussion, personally I'd like some answers on those reasons why& not just denials, double-talk or mockery.

Okay I’ll address some of it. But I would respectfully like to ask how old you are and if you have served in the military or traveled the world any? The reason I ask is that I have served in both the Navy and ANG, and am a former Police Officer. So I have personal experience of the originations and the personnel that would be required to fulfill the conspiracy theories you say you believe.

 

Two reasons Obama could be doing what he is doing. One is jobs. He (and the democrats that follow) want to be able to say he created a lot of jobs. Creating worthless government agencies and filling them with people that can maintain jobs anywhere else will do that. (Think TSA)

 

Another reason is that many Americans don’t want to use the military to assist law enforcement or use them for border protection in this country. Obama preys on that. It’s time to do away with posse comitias and Obamas claim of a need for a security force is moot.

 

During this conversation fill us in on what you are afraid of, and what you think the military, law enforcement and American citizens will be doing while this perceived takeover of our country is taking place.

 

Don’t mistake my comments as support for Obama. I think the man is intentionally doing everything he can to destroy this county; but the people elected him. We have to deal with him until the next election.

[RichardR]

Okay I’ll address some of it. But I would respectfully like to ask how old you are and if you have served in the military or traveled the world any? The reason I ask is that I have served in both the Navy and ANG, and am a former Police Officer. So I have personal experience of the originations and the personnel that would be required to fulfill the conspiracy theories you say you believe.

Two reasons Obama could be doing what he is doing. One is jobs. He (and the democrats that follow) want to be able to say he created a lot of jobs. Creating worthless government agencies and filling them with people that can maintain jobs anywhere else will do that. (Think TSA)

Another reason is that many Americans don’t want to use the military to assist law enforcement or use them for border protection in this country. Obama preys on that. It’s time to do away with posse comitias and Obamas claim of a need for a security force is moot.

During this conversation fill us in on what you are afraid of, and what you think the military, law enforcement and American citizens will be doing while this perceived takeover of our country is taking place.

Don’t mistake my comments as support for Obama. I think the man is intentionally doing everything he can to destroy this county; but the people elected him. We have to deal with him until the next election.

We have similar backgrounds & I am also well traveled.

Only the foolish or deluded would deny the growing similarities between America 2.0 & the former Soviet Union.

You yourself just said: "I think the man (obama) is intentionally doing everything he can to destroy the country".

Well considering he promised to "fundamentally transform" the nation, I'd say he's just making good on his promise, the real question is transform it into what though?

A communist nation-state? based on his track record that'd be a solid bet, what happens to dissidents in a communist nation? Are dissenting opinions welcomed into the public discourse? Are they allowed to participate in the political process? Or are they repressed? what are they repressed with? A massive domestic police force? & what has the DHS become?

If pointing out the obvious is considered "looney" ... and ignoring or mocking the obvious is "normal" what does that tell you about the current mindset of the American people?