Government snooping poll

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I believe you are seeing the lame duck phase of the Obama legacy; and im all for that --- HEHEHE....  I believe the democrats are "re-branding" to try to save their collective stinkin hides and to try to stay in power. 

 

They know they cant win in 2016, or hope to keep the status quo in 2014 without drastic action. The Obama scandal-mania thing is the vehicle for re-branding and selling the new democrat party line to the "low information voters" and the blue state children; its more "how can we fool 'em again today" stuff.   The mainstream media is makin Obama satan; and is getting ready to proclaim that Hillary (...who is just as bad, if not worse...) the savior of america and the democrat party.  Remember, Hillary, the anti-Obama authoritarian she princess empress savior of America.

 

Let's watch this on closely.

 

leroy

Don't forget who controls the voting machines and computers that tally them. A large enough percentage of them are

owned by George Soros, a self avowed socialist and supporter of that bunch of Secretary of States. Don't count out

his influence and criminality towards rigging the systems. All those dead folks and the live ones who saw their votes

change, in at least five states, should be cause for concern. 

 

That mainstream media is only playing a game right now. They got handed something, a softball, they could peddle

into some temporary news to hand them back some credibility. Wait until they get back on the Obama freight train.

It won't be long. There is nothing to show that this is anything more than a fleeting moment of back peddling for the

media's benefit, even if only accidental.

 

This is when we should not be taking a collective sigh, but pushing all the much harder against all the tyranny.

[Grunt67]

If one terrorist is stopped, if one child is saved, if one person doesn't jaywalk...Where the hell does it stop? There is no such thing as 100% security and I don't want my government of the idiots, for the idiots, and by the idiots searching for it. 

 

Amen, brother! Remember the old saying, "Give 'em an inch, they'll take a mile".

[wewoapsiak]

Makes sense.

 

[Guest PapaB]

Amen, brother! Remember the old saying, "Give 'em an inch, they'll take a mile".

 

I'm reminded of a variation of that saying I heard many years ago.

 

"Give them an inch, they'll take a foot and think they're a ruler."

[Grunt67]

I'm reminded of a variation of that saying I heard many years ago.

 

"Give them an inch, they'll take a foot and think they're a ruler."

 

Yeah, that too!

[Guest Lester Weevils]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-admits-listening-to-u.s-phone-calls-without-warrants/

 

The National Security Agency has acknowledged in a new classified briefing that it does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed "simply based on an analyst deciding that."

If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, Nadler said he learned. "I was rather startled," said Nadler, an attorney and congressman who serves on the House Judiciary committee

 

Because the same legal standards that apply to phone calls also apply to e-mail messages, text messages, and instant messages, Nadler's disclosure indicates the NSA analysts could also access the contents of Internet communications without going before a court and seeking approval.

The disclosure appears to confirm some of the allegations made by Edward Snowden, a former NSA infrastructure analyst who leaked classified documents to the Guardian. Snowden said in a video interview that, while not all NSA analysts had this ability, he could from Hawaii "wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president."

That law says surveillance may be authorized by the attorney general and director of national intelligence without prior approval by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, as long as minimization requirements and general procedures blessed by the court are followed.

A requirement of the 2008 law is that the NSA "may not intentionally target any person known at the time of acquisition to be located in the United States." A possible interpretation of that language, some legal experts said, is that the agency may vacuum up everything it can domestically -- on the theory that indiscriminate data acquisition was not intended to "target" a specific American citizen.

 

 

[Chief07]

 

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 

Yes. We had a bill of rights.

This administration is going far beyond what the original Patriot act under Bush stated. (That was flawed to begin with). This occupier of the oval office doesn't care what the Constitution says.

He tramples on the bill of rights.This is all about power and control.He is using the power of government to go after anyone who isn't in lock step with him and his ideology

He doesn't care about the 10th amendment which protects states rights. 

The reason for all this gun control is to disarm the people and control them It has nothing to do with safety.

The NSA will use all the info they collect to go after their perceived "enemies" whether it is true or not. 

Don't be surprised if they are monitoring all of us gun owners and our correspondence. 

We need to get involved and rid our Government of these un-American individuals.Vote the bums out. Starting with Corker and Alexander!

[tnhawk]

Were they able to intervene with the people who just set the bombs off in Boston?  Seems as to how they have been raking in the information on everybody for a while, phones, e-mail, social media, and, the Ruskies tipped the heat off about these cats in the first place, and yet the bombs still were set off??

 

Are they just that incompetent?  If so, they have no business having all our information...

The group in Washington isn't worried about a few bombs in Boston, the're after dangerous targets like those supporting the Tea Party.

[Tedro2022]

This has me thinking I may just ditch my handy-dandy iPhone, iPad, Mac Book and turn off the internet and cable to the house and just get a hard line hooked up with an old rotary telephone... Time to start the underground bunker phase!


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[Guest Lester Weevils]

Ha Ha-- The obamaphones are primarily serviced by tracphone. In light of recent revelations, tracphone might be an unfortunate name for a phone company. Or unfortunately accurate perhaps.

 

But this article on o'keef and obaaaama phones is interesting-- The program sounds so loose, dunno how much useful info the NSA could glean from them, unless they want to know about people's drug habits or whatever?

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343377/I-dont-care-Hidden-camera-catches-wireless-company-employees-passing-Obama-phones-people-say-theyll-sell-drugs-shoes-handbags-spending-cash.html

 

The article has links to several okeef sting videos.
 

The Terracom Wireless sales rep also raised the possibility that non-citizens might be obtaining phones subsidized by charges on taxpayers' phone bills.

'Obama is being really nice, anybody that's $16,000 [salary] or less' can qualify, he says.

'Anybody. If you might be American, anybody that makes $16,000 or less.'

News reports have documented fraud in the Lifeline program for years.

'Time and time again, I saw people sign up while texting and talking on their own cell phone,' reported Chris Nagus of KMOV-TV in St. Louis.

'I signed up for two already,' one recipient told him. Another admitted to having four.

Jeff Barnd of WBFF-TV in Baltimore talked with one woman in 2012 who had an even larger collection of 'Obama phones.'

'I have six in my purse now,' Monique Crawford told him. 'Each and every one of these phones works. At home I know I have about 30 and all of them are on.'