Frank Lautenberg has died.

[Chucktshoes]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/06/03/senator-frank-lautenberg-obit/2384125/

WASHINGTON — Sen. Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey, a liberal Democrat who wrote some of the nation's most sweeping health and safety laws, died early Monday, his office announced.


Good riddance. I wonder if Christie will name a replacement before or after he switches parties?

[RobertNashville]

I'm not happy about anyone's death...may he RIP.

 

On a similar note, Gene Stapleton; best known for her role as Archie Bunker's wife Edith passed away (on Sunday i think)...she was 90 if I heard correctly. I remember watching that show as a kid/teenager and laughing my head off.  She played her role particularly well.

[Mike.357]

old people die, it happens every day.  Lautenberg was a poster boy for what is wrong with American politics.  Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[RobertNashville]

He was also a WW2 veteran; that alone, at least in my book, is reason enough to not celebrate his death. That entire generation will soon be completely gone; we owe everyone who served in that war a debt that none of us can repay.

 

There are plenty of people in politics I don't agree with on issues; I still won't celebrate their deaths.

Edited June 3, 2013 by RobertNashville

[Guest Lester Weevils]

Cut down in his prime.

[mikegideon]

He was also a WW2 veteran; that alone, at least in my book, is reason enough to not celebrate his death. That entire generation will soon be completely gone; we owe everyone who served in that war a debt that none of us can repay.

 

There are plenty of people in politics I don't agree with on issues; I still won't celebrate their deaths.

 

I hear you Robert, but he was the enemy. I didn't start the war on guns, and certainly won't grieve when their ranks are thinned. 

[tartanphantom]

He was also a WW2 veteran; that alone, at least in my book, is reason enough to not celebrate his death. That entire generation will soon be completely gone; we owe everyone who served in that war a debt that none of us can repay.

 

There are plenty of people in politics I don't agree with on issues; I still won't celebrate their deaths.

 

Agreed. I didn't celebrate the death of Ted Kennedy either.

 

However, I DO celebrate the fact that they are no longer directly influencing the direction of this nation.

Edited June 3, 2013 by tartanphantom

[mikegideon]

Agreed. I didn't celebrate the death of Ted Kennedy either.

 

However, I DO celebrate the fact that they are no longer directly influencing the direction of this nation.

 

Right. Not really glad he's dead, but real glad that he's gone.

[Chucktshoes]

He was also a WW2 veteran; that alone, at least in my book, is reason enough to not celebrate his death.

I wonder who he fought for?

[RobertNashville]

I hear you Robert, but he was the enemy. I didn't start the war on guns, and certainly won't grieve when their ranks are thinned. 

I'm not suggesting we grieve because of his passing; just don't see a reason to celebrate it either.

[Guest 270win]

I feel sorry for his family.  Many people of all viewpoints have lost any civility when it comes to disagreeing, that it is disgusting. 

 

He will be replaced by another liberal so don't have your hopes up that him being out of office will change anything.

Edited June 3, 2013 by 270win

[mikegideon]

There are liberals, and then there are highly decorated members of the Douchebag Hall of Fame. It's more likely he will be replaced by one of the plain ones.

[RobertNashville]

There are liberals, and then there are highly decorated members of the Douchebag Hall of Fame. It's more likely he will be replaced by one of the plain ones.

Well; they have to start somewhere don't they?  ;)

[Guest 6.8 AR]

What do you want to bet Christie appoints a Democrat to fill his term?

[Chucktshoes]

In dedication to the recently departed Senator from NJ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2V6v6Xa-BI

 

[mikegideon]

And... I was trying to be nice  :rofl:

[Chucktshoes]

And... I was trying to be nice :rofl:

I do not suffer from that affliction.

[JayC]

The entire generation that gave us:

 

1. FDR as President

2. Social Security

3. Constant war since 1941

4. The "Great Society" :(

5. National Firearms Act of 1934

6. Gun Control Act of 1968

just to name a few

 

Yeah a lot to celebrate there :(  My Grandfather fought in the war and he was a good man, but his generation did enough to screw this country up, it's hard to separate the few good things they did for this country with the awful road they allowed us to be taken down.

 

He was also a WW2 veteran; that alone, at least in my book, is reason enough to not celebrate his death. That entire generation will soon be completely gone; we owe everyone who served in that war a debt that none of us can repay.

 

There are plenty of people in politics I don't agree with on issues; I still won't celebrate their deaths.

 

[RobertNashville]

The entire generation that gave us:

 

1. FDR as President

2. Social Security

3. Constant war since 1941

4. The "Great Society" :(

5. National Firearms Act of 1934

6. Gun Control Act of 1968

just to name a few

 

Yeah a lot to celebrate there :(  My Grandfather fought in the war and he was a good man, but his generation did enough to screw this country up, it's hard to separate the few good things they did for this country with the awful road they allowed us to be taken down.

You're right...it would have been better if Hitler had won

[JayC]

First, FDR knew Japan was going to attack us, and instead of sending the fleet to sea, and protecting our bases in the Pacific he allowed Perl Harbor to be attacked, cause a lot more deaths, and forcing America into a full scale war...  This is after we did just about everything we could do to Japan to drag us into a war with them.

 

And, the fact is Germany declared war on us...  I don't see how we had a choice, well except we had been funding and supplying German's enemies for 3 or 4 years violating our neutrality....  maybe if we hadn't been shipping free arms to their enemies Hitler wouldn't have declared war on us?  Who knows...

 

We did the right thing in WWII once war was declared, we went over there kicked butt, and then should have come home...  but that isn't what we did.

 

We're still sitting in bases we occupied during the end of WWII...  why exactly?

 

You're right...it would have been better if Hitler had won

 

[ttocswob]

"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."

[RobertNashville]

First, FDR knew Japan was going to attack us, and instead of sending the fleet to sea, and protecting our bases in the Pacific he allowed Perl Harbor to be attacked, cause a lot more deaths, and forcing America into a full scale war...  This is after we did just about everything we could do to Japan to drag us into a war with them.

 

And, the fact is Germany declared war on us...  I don't see how we had a choice, well except we had been funding and supplying German's enemies for 3 or 4 years violating our neutrality....  maybe if we hadn't been shipping free arms to their enemies Hitler wouldn't have declared war on us?  Who knows...

 

We did the right thing in WWII once war was declared, we went over there kicked butt, and then should have come home...  but that isn't what we did.

 

We're still sitting in bases we occupied during the end of WWII...  why exactly?

What does it matter who declared what?  There was no law that said we had to defend ourselves. That said, if you truly believe that it was our fault that Hitler declared war on us; that even after taking all of Europe and Russia he would have just stopped there then I'd suggest that you don't have a very firm grasp of Hitler, his goals, or the danger he presented to the entire world.

 

You stated that your "grandfather fought in the war and he was a good man, but his generation did enough to screw this country up, it's hard to separate the few good things they did for this country with the awful road they allowed us to be taken down". How could your grandfather be a "good man" if he and every other person part of his generation is responsible for the "awful road" the country has gone down since?

 

If you truly believe the people who fought (including those who died) in WW2 to keep the United States in existence didn't qualify for any acknowledgement because of the bad policies that occurred during that generation then it sounds as if you believe we would have been better off had they either never went to fight in the first place or had lost the war since, apparently, that "awful road" negates their blood and sacrifice in the fields of Europe and the islands of the Pacific.

 

If you want to believe that our WW2 veterans did nothing for us and qualify for no special consideration that's your prerogative but I think you have a very slanted view of what the world was facing at that time.

 

As to the bases; maybe we are there because we still have enemies and trying to hide behind our oceans would be a stupid thing to do???

 

By the way, maybe I just missed it but what great, wonderful and noble things has your generation done for the country???    :rolleyes:

Edited June 3, 2013 by RobertNashville

[leroy]

I'm not as kind and reasonable as some are.  Frank Lautenberg was a grandfatherly old man and grandpaw to someone who loved him; and i'm willing to concede and accept that fact.  He was also one of the most dangerous statist sons of Marx that made it way too entirely long (...in my view...) into the twenty-first century.  He and others like him have done this country and its citizens great harm and no one who loves freedom should be sad that he is gone to his reward.

 

Frank Lautenberg was a thoroughly dangerous opportunistic man; and was no friend to this country, freedom, or the Constitution. He could have just as well been decorated with the Order of Lennin for his service to socialism, as he could have been a WW 2 veteran.  As others have opined; i wonder which side he fought on....?

 

His votes, "public service", and belief system gave us people like Barak Obama and this pseudo socialist government we have today. He has pillaged the pockets of citizens, taken their rights, and enriched himself and his sorry associates for many a year.  People like Frank Lautenberg believe that folks like us "delightful rustics' are a rabble to be controlled and serfs to pony up whatever the "ruling elites" demand.   Frank Lautenberg (...and others like him....)  brought old world belief systems and serfdom to the new world.  They believed that they were the "best and brightest" and that the citizenry was a rabble to be controlled and to be made to bow down to these "ruling elites"; just as they have been made to do in New Jersey and New York.  If he had have had his way; the "New Jersey and New York" way would have been made the law of this entire land.

 

Dont be sad that he is dead.  You can be polite to the family; but dont gloss over the truth.  Remember this; everybody blesses us in some way; some by staying and helping, some by leaving.  Thank you Lord that You have called this dangerous man to his reward.

 

leroy

Edited June 3, 2013 by leroy

[Guest 6.8 AR]

You're right...it would have been better if Hitler had won

One could make an argument that Hitler did win, considering current events. His legacy lives on, with the Democrats,

and a few RINOs. That list JayC made speaks well of it.

[RobertNashville]

One could make an argument that Hitler did win, considering current events. His legacy lives on, with the Democrats,

and a few RINOs. That list JayC made speaks well of it.

I suspect that the millions of jews who would have been slaughtered had Hitler prevailed would not agree; not to mention every other "non-Aryan" race.