Worth the read, perhaps we are not paying close enough Attention

[JG55]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/04/reports_of_the_obama_presidencys_death_are_exaggerated.html

 

[Oh Shoot]

Good read, glad you posted it.

 

No matter what happens in 2014 and 2016 elections, it's irrefutable that the progressive socialist agenda has reset the bar, and conservatism has lost much ground...and there's still 3.5+ years left under the current Destroyer in Chief.

 

As the article concludes:

 

"...American progressives will eventually seek a new mask for their authoritarian agenda.  But their next wave will begin from a start line much further from the U.S. founding than the line Obama inherited.  Much more than wishful thinking and high electoral hopes will be required to turn back the results of the Obama presidency.  America, whether she fully realizes it yet or not, is fighting a whole new war now, on what is, for her, uncharted territory.  Until Americans come to terms with this new terrain, all talk of moving beyond Obama is just tilting at windmills."

 

Of course the "new mask" looks almost certainly to be an old one: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

 

- OS

[Mike.357]

Of course the "new mask" looks almost certainly to be an old one: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

 

unless she dies or something else as serious happens she will be the next president.

[Patton]

I am hoping that her age of 69 year old a week before the election will be on the mind of voters.

[Oh Shoot]

I am hoping that her age of 69 year old a week before the election will be on the mind of voters.

 

She'll be 8 months younger than Reagan when he first took office.

 

- OS

Edited April 30, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[Randall53]

Obama's past is filled with the most active radical haters of free America and Marxist worshipers of the past 60 or 70 years.  Many were teaching in our universities, including convicted bomber Bill Ayers. Even his preacher was a hater of America. Some of them are dead now. Obama is said to be a smart man, but I don't think he's smart enough to orchestrate all of the methods he's used to undermine our freedoms and of life in America. He's had a lot of guidance and help.  I have been wondering for a while now, who is pulling his strings.....or what organization is guiding him toward their goals.  I kinda think that information is tucked away with his college records and how he was able to pay for that Harvard education even though he'd never held a job.

[Trekbike]

Of course the "new mask" looks almost certainly to be an old one: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

 
unless she dies or something else as serious happens she will be the next president.

I'm hoping the most recent rounds about Benghazi will help dampen her chances.

[Guest RedLights&Sirens]

I am hoping that her age of 69 year old a week before the election will be on the mind of voters.

I'm hoping the most recent rounds about Benghazi will help dampen her chances.

Y'all are living in a fantasy land. I can forgive people who voted for Obama the first time but do you really think after his reelection that the average voter will even care about the above quoted? That the average voter is even smart enough? If the average American voter even gave a damn about Benghazi she would have been hung already.

Patriots and anyone else who cares about what this country once stood for (yes I mean past tense) are the minority under thoes looking for handouts. Edited April 30, 2013 by RedLights&Sirens

[JayC]

Obama won his second term because republicans weren't 'excited' with the republican nominee.  If Romney had gotten the same number of votes that McCain did in 2008 he would have won.

 

We keep picking democrat light republicans to run, and we're surprised that the democrats keep getting elected.  

 

And make no mistake if Romney had been in office in Dec of 2012, we would have a brand new assault weapons ban in place right now. 

 

Y'all are living in a fantasy land. I can forgive people who voted for Obama the first time but do you really think after his reelection that the average voter will even care about the above quoted? That the average voter is even smart enough? If the average American voter even gave a damn about Benghazi she would have been hung already.

Patriots and anyone else who cares about what this country once stood for (yes I mean past tense) are the minority under thoes looking for handouts.

[Patton]

 
And make no mistake if Romney had been in office in Dec of 2012, we would have a brand new assault weapons ban in place right now.

That though has crossed my mind but he would have sealed his faith as a one term president.

[Guest RedLights&Sirens]

Obama won his second term because republicans weren't 'excited' with the republican nominee. If Romney had gotten the same number of votes that McCain did in 2008 he would have won.

We keep picking democrat light republicans to run, and we're surprised that the democrats keep getting elected.

And make no mistake if Romney had been in office in Dec of 2012, we would have a brand new assault weapons ban in place right now.

Im not saying Romney wouldnt push for an AWB and Im not saying the poor choice of republican candidates dosnt help. Just that I dont think the majority of voters are all that educated, not to mention the non-voters who dont think their vote matters. Hell I know a REPUBLICAN whos only reason she wont vote for Hillary in '16 is that Hillary stayed with Bill.

[Links2k]

Im not saying Romney wouldnt push for an AWB and Im not saying the poor choice of republican candidates dosnt help. Just that I dont think the majority of voters are all that educated, not to mention the non-voters who dont think their vote matters. Hell I know a REPUBLICAN whos only reason she wont vote for Hillary in '16 is that Hillary stayed with Bill.

Let's try this on for size. Imagine if your heard this on a regular basis.

I think that you are all a bunch of lazy, ignorant, uneducated individuals and the only thing that you want from his country is a hand out. You don't know what's best for you, that is why you keep voting for democrats. Now, get off of your lazy azz and vote for me. - Republican Party

Talking to lots of different people, this is what they are hearing when you talk about republican outreach. Some research suggest that hispanics and blacks are very conservative in their thinking and lifesyles. If he republican party can fight its seemingly natural urge to insult poor minorities and make the effort to remind the poor and minorities about their core principles the democrats could never win another election again.

This goes back to what I said in the Memphis thread yesterday. There is a dangerous perception out there about the powers that be and the masses will continue to thumb their noses (sometimes to their own detriment) at the republican party if the party can't convince young people, hispanics, the poor and blacks that it is not just the party of old white men. Edited April 30, 2013 by LINKS2K

[Guest RedLights&Sirens]

Im not directing my comment towards minorities at all. Its directed at all the people who have to let the television and their freinds decide who they vote for. The people who believe that "99% of Americans statistic" without researching the truth. Like I mentioned above my freind, well my girlfreind to be specific is a Republican and would vote for Hillary but chooses not to only because she stayed with Bill after he cheated. Any vote against Hillary is good in my book but of all the reasons (like accessory to murder of American citizens on American soil) thats why?

To each their own I guess. Maybe educated was a poor choice of words on my part, perhaps informed would have been better?

This has nothing to do with race to me. Edited April 30, 2013 by RedLights&Sirens

[Oh Shoot]

This has nothing to do with race to me.

 

C'mon, everybody knows that anyone who didn't vote for BHO was a racist.

 

And anyone who won't vote for Hildebeest is a sexist.

 

- OS

[Links2k]

Im not directing my comment towards minorities at all. Its directed at all the people who have to let the television and their freinds decide who they vote for. The people who believe that "99% of Americans statistic" without researching the truth. Like I mentioned above my freind, well my girlfreind to be specific is a Republican and would vote for Hillary but chooses not to only because she stayed with Bill after he cheated. Any vote against Hillary is good in my book but of all the reasons (like accessory to murder of American citizens on American soil) thats why?
To each their own I guess. Maybe educated was a poor choice of words on my part, perhaps informed would have been better?
This has nothing to do with race to me.

I'm certain of that. I'm simply pointing to the fact that the demographics of this country are changing very fast. Republicans have a lot in common with millions of members of the minority group that will inevitably become the majority over the next couple of decades. The party has to embrace those similarities, sell the values of the party, grow strong and wins some elections.

Or, the party can keep doing the same things, continue to alienate people and putting up bad candidates until the day that we will have a president who makes the current POTUS look like the best thing since sliced bread.

[Links2k]

C'mon, everybody knows that anyone who didn't vote for BHO was a racist.
 
And anyone who won't vote for Hildebeest is a sexist.
 
- OS

And those of us who supported Dr. Paul are just flat out crazy.:)

[Guest RedLights&Sirens]

I'm certain of that. I'm simply pointing to the fact that the demographics of this country are changing very fast. Republicans have a lot in common with millions of members of the minority group that will inevitably become the majority over the next couple of decades. The party has to embrace those similarities, sell the values of the party, grow strong and wins some elections.

Or, the party can keep doing the same things, continue to alienate people and putting up bad candidates until the day that we will have a president who makes the current POTUS look like the best thing since sliced bread.

Okay, I misunderstood. I do remember your comments from the other thread too and am in agreement 100%

What scares me is when Hillary runs and the Republicans once again decide to declair a war on women, we're screwed. I wont voice my personal opinion on abortion or anything else but when they do it as a party, especially during elections well... enough said?

[RobertNashville]

I've said before and I say again, I have come to the conclusion that this country has already passed the tipping point and any talk about "undoing" what Obama (and the progressives/socialists before him) have done or "Americans waking up" doesn't have enough legs to stand on to be considered wishful thinking.

 

We can try to hang onto what's left but it will all be lost eventually.

 

The only hope I have or possible solution I see is the possibility of a natural "migration"...a migration of those who actually still love liberty and believe in the Constitution moving from the blue states they now live in to those states that will protect their rights...then, those states deciding to band together to resist the federal government.  I don't believe a violent civil war can win (I think everyone would lose) but I do think that a peaceful but determined resistance might at least provide a place where what America once was can still exist.

[Erik88]

I've said before and I say again, I have come to the conclusion that this country has already passed the tipping point and any talk about "undoing" what Obama (and the progressives/socialists before him) have done or "Americans waking up" doesn't have enough legs to stand on to be considered wishful thinking.

 

We can try to hang onto what's left but it will all be lost eventually.

 

The only hope I have or possible solution I see is the possibility of a natural "migration"...a migration of those who actually still love liberty and believe in the Constitution moving from the blue states they now live in to those states that will protect their rights...then, those states deciding to band together to resist the federal government.  I don't believe a violent civil war can win (I think everyone would lose) but I do think that a peaceful but determined resistance might at least provide a place where what America once was can still exist.

 

Won't happen. Look at home many people stay in states like IL and NY because it's their home and they think they can undue the damage. I admire their determination but I don't see anything changing.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Okay, I misunderstood. I do remember your comments from the other thread too and am in agreement 100%

What scares me is when Hillary runs and the Republicans once again decide to declair a war on women, we're screwed. I wont voice my personal opinion on abortion or anything else but when they do it as a party, especially during elections well... enough said?

You wish to describe this "War on women" thing? The last I heard was this was another propaganda project

from the media. Just because someone on the media used a word doesn't mean it's so. I'm in the bunch who

believes the Republican is pretty well dead, but I won't blame that one on them. They are, as a group, too

much of being RINO, but the lesson to be learned is to not believe much of what the media says.

 

Given enough time and the patience to type it out and I could think of over a hundred examples, just during

this president's administration.

[RobertNashville]

Won't happen. Look at home many people stay in states like IL and NY because it's their home and they think they can undue the damage. I admire their determination but I don't see anything changing.

Sure...and there are plenty of people who need work but won't move to where they can find work because "my family has always lived here"...there will always be people like that.  However, that doesn't mean that many won't make the decision to leave. Actually, some say based on census reports, etc. that the migration is well underway and has been for a while now.

[hipower]

Y'all are living in a fantasy land. I can forgive people who voted for Obama the first time but do you really think after his reelection that the average voter will even care about the above quoted? That the average voter is even smart enough? If the average American voter even gave a damn about Benghazi she would have been hung already.

Patriots and anyone else who cares about what this country once stood for (yes I mean past tense) are the minority under thoes looking for handouts.

 

 Pardon me, but Damn. I really don't like agreeing with that. But I think that it's unfortunately the truth.