Morbid find suggests murder-obsessed gunman Adam Lanza plotted Newtown, Conn.'s Sandy Hook massacre for years

[QuietDan]

Bottom line: The little #### video-gamer allegedly transferred his video-gaming persona to his real life in an attempt to rack up more "points" than any other mass shooter.

 

If so, who says that video games do not desensitize a small fraction of players to mass murder if not prepare them for the act?

 

If this is so, and I have no reason to doubt it, it should completely reset the national debate. It should, but I doubt it will. That makes our national leadership complicit in these crimes. If national leaders are going to pass nonsense laws, instead of laws that address the facts on the ground, they make themselves complicit in future mass shootings.

 

 

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Morbid find suggests

murder-obsessed gunman Adam Lanza

plotted Newtown, Conn.'s

Sandy Hook massacre for years

 

 

Law enforcement reportedly discovers a sickeningly thorough 7-foot-long, 4-foot-wide spreadsheet with names, body counts and weapons from previous mass murders and even attempted killings. 'It sounded like a doctoral thesis, that was the quality of the research,' an anonymous law enforcement veteran said.

 

 

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Published: Sunday, March 17, 2013, 8:11 PM

Updated: Monday, March 18, 2013, 10:05 AM

 

Authorities believe Adam Lanza targeted Sandy Hook, because a school would provide little resistance, allowing him to rack up victims in a quest for notoriety.

 

It is three months since the killings in Newtown, since 20 children and six adults were gunned down at Sandy Hook Elementary School less than two weeks before Christmas. And as bad as the story was, and will always be, it is even worse than we originally knew because now we discover that this was slaughter by spreadsheet.

 

It has been reported previously that law enforcement found research about previous mass murderers at the Newtown, Conn., home the shooter, video gamer Adam Lanza, shared with his mother, the first victim of Dec. 14.

 

It was more than that, and worse than that.

What investigators found was a chilling spreadsheet 7 feet long and 4 feet wide that required a special printer, a document that contained Lanza’s obsessive, extensive research — in nine-point font — about mass murders of the past, and even attempted murders.

But it wasn’t just a spreadsheet. It was a score sheet.

“We were told (Lanza) had around 500 people on this sheet,” a law enforcement veteran told me Saturday night. “Names and the number of people killed and the weapons that were used, even the precise make and model of the weapons. It had to have taken years. It sounded like a doctoral thesis, that was the quality of the research.”

 

The law enforcement vet attended the International Association of Police Chiefs and Colonels mid-year meeting in New Orleans last week, a conference where state police colonels share information with each other, and learn from each other. One of the speakers this year was Danny Stebbins, a colonel from the Connecticut State Police.

 

Stebbins spoke for a long time about the morning of Dec. 14 at Sandy Hook Elementary.

Those in the room were told of first responders in Newtown who have since quit their jobs, so shattered were they by what they found when they got to the school that morning, when they saw dead teachers with their arms wrapped around the children they had tried in vain to save.

 

The man to whom I spoke, a tough career cop who did not wish to see his name in the newspaper, was in the room when the state cop from Connecticut spoke, said the man was well into his presentation when he began to talk of the spreadsheets that had been found at “the shooter’s” home.

He didn’t use Lanza’s name, saying he did not want to give him even an hour more of fame, just because that is what Lanza wanted; what all these shooters want, from Tucson to Newtown to Virginia Tech.

 

“We keep calling them mass murderers,” the veteran cop to whom I spoke said. “But there should be a new way of referring to them: Glory killers.

 

“They don’t believe this was just a spreadsheet. They believe it was a score sheet,” he continued. “This was the work of a video gamer, and that it was his intent to put his own name at the very top of that list. They believe that he picked an elementary school because he felt it was a point of least resistance, where he could rack up the greatest number of kills. That’s what (the Connecticut police) believe.”

 

The man paused and said, “They believe that (Lanza) believed that it was the way to pick up the easiest points. It’s why he didn’t want to be killed by law enforcement. In the code of a gamer, even a deranged gamer like this little bastard, if somebody else kills you, they get your points. They believe that’s why he killed himself.

 

“They have pictures from two years before, with the guy all strapped with weapons, posing with a pistol to his head. That’s the thing you have to understand: He had this laid out for years before.”

Another pause.

“He didn’t snap that day, he wasn’t one of those guys who was mad as hell and wasn’t going to take it anymore,” the man said. “He had been planning this thing forever. In the end, it was just a perfect storm: These guns, one of them an AR-15, in the hands of a violent, insane gamer. It was like porn to a rapist. They feed on it until they go out and say, enough of the video screen. Now I’m actually going to be a hunter.”

 

Those who didn’t know about Lanza’s life on its way to the gates of hell were told in New Orleans about the plastic that covered his own windows in Newtown, the Connecticut town he would make famous as a way of making himself, the newest glory killer, famous. Were told about how in the last days of his life, not a single ray of light could get into his room.

 

He was finished with his spreadsheet by then, the old score sheet, one that did not yet have his name on it.

“The whole thing was chilling and riveting,” the law enforcement official said.

 

The fascination (Lanza) had with this subject matter, the complete and total concentration. There really was no other subject matter inside his head. Just this: Kill, kill, kill.

 

“It really was like he was lost in one of his own sick games. That’s what we heard. That he learned something from his game that you learn in (police) school, about how if you’re moving from room to room — the way he was in that school — you have to reload before you get to the next room. Maybe he has a 30-round magazine clip, and he’s only used half of it. But he’s willing to dump 15 rounds and have a new clip before he arrives in the next room.”

 

The career law enforcement veteran paused again, and when he started speaking again his voice was shaking, like a wind had blown through it.

 

“They believe he learned the principles of this — the tactical reload — from his game. Reload before you’re completely out. Keep going. When the strap broke on his first weapon (the AR-15), he went to his handgun at the end. Classic police training. Or something you learn playing kill games.”

 

The police in Connecticut believe that Lanza’s mother, a gun lover herself, was an enabler of her son’s increasing obsession with guns, that she was making straw purchases of guns for him all along, and ignoring the fact that he was getting more and more fixated on them.

 

At this point I asked the man what we can possibly learn from what happened with Adam Lanza and his mother and what finally happened at Sandy Hook Elementary on that Friday morning in December.

 

He said, “The amazing thing is, as much of a tragedy as it was, it really could have been much worse. We heard that in New Orleans, too. Those teachers . . . the whole school . . . they did everything they could. There is nothing more they could have done. Despite the great loss of lives, they did save lives by acting the way they did.”

 

He said when the presentation was over that day, he walked out of the hotel and into the New Orleans morning, three months removed from Sandy Hook Elementary but unable now to shake what he called the “visual” of Adam Lanza’s spreadsheets, the seemingly endless list of names and numbers compiled for God knows how long; the list on which he wanted his name at the top, because of all the easy kills he thought he could get at an elementary school.

 

“Then I called my wife,” he said, “and told her about it, and started to cry about Newtown all over again.” 

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lupica-lanza-plotted-massacre-years-article-1.1291408#ixzz2NvKNZBjZ

Edited March 18, 2013 by QuietDan

[Raoul]

Holy crap.

[Guest Cami]

And they call us gun-nuts for wanting to arm teachers.  If anyone had been armed and it was published he would have just picked another soft target.  So evil...

[10-Ring]

Wow, why is this just now coming to surface?

[Raoul]

Wow, why is this just now coming to surface?

Because most of the media has an agenda. This kinda blows the anti-gun argument. Liberals hate to admit that there is real evil in the world.

[Guest Cami]

Because most of the media has an agenda. This kinda blows the anti-gun argument. Liberals hate to admit that there is real evil in the world.

If one were to look, I expect that many of the libs are heavily invested in keeping our children dumb.  Video games help with that.  They are probably financially invested as well.  Follow the money...

[walton6467]

Insane.

[knewcomb]

I feel this goes much deeper than video games. It seems to me that individals are becoming more and more seperated from reality. The idea of morality and humanity are slowing slipping away.

[Randall53]

Makes me wonder if his mother wasn't coaxed into buying the guns and taking him to the range at his "innocent" urgings. She may have went along excited to see him showing an interest in an activity they could do together, not realizing he had other plans in the works.

[Glenn]

Makes me wonder if his mother wasn't coaxed into buying the guns and taking him to the range at his "innocent" urgings. She may have went along excited to see him showing an interest in an activity they could do together, not realizing he had other plans in the works.

^^THIS^^

[Randall53]

Because most of the media has an agenda. This kinda blows the anti-gun argument. Liberals hate to admit that there is real evil in the world.

 

Especially this......They transfer the evil to an inanimate object. And the bulk of society hits the shiny hook like those baitfish called "greenies" everyone uses in Florida.  You don't even need bait for the greenies to hit. Just a shiny gold hook on a spinning rod.

[Mdunntn]

I don't know why people blame video games its really ridiculous. I've played fps games since probably 10 years old and even at that age, I knew it was just a game.

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[Slpeod]

GJ 😢

[Randall53]

I don't know why people blame video games its really ridiculous. I've played fps games since probably 10 years old and even at that age, I knew it was just a game.

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What about the 10 year old kids that are not as mentally stable as you were?  There are hundreds of thousands of kids in this country that have severe emotional or mental issues. Violent issues. You can read about them just about every day in the news. Adam Lanza is a prime example of this. No one is saying it will automatically happen to everyone that plays these violent games.

[Dolomite`s Breezy]

I dont buy it..

[Metalhead]

So basically you guys are going to try and blame video games the same way the libs try to blame the guns?

[Garufa]

So basically you guys are going to try and blame video games the same way the libs try to blame the guns?

 

The NRA did, our "defenders of freedom".

[Guest Razz]

So basically you guys are going to try and blame video games the same way the libs try to blame the guns?

It's all about personal responsibility until a better scapegoat comes along to take the pressure off of firearms.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I won't blame the video game, because I played Doom and a few others without knowing what a first person

shooter was, and I knew it was just a game, also, but when you add the ingredients in a bowl and stir them

up, let the yeast cause it to rise, you can sometimes get dough for a batch of dinner rolls or other times with

different ingredients,  get pumpernickel bread. In other word, it's the ingredients added together that end

up with the results.

 

You gamer defenders out there are missing the whole point, and no one is necessarily blaming the game, but

the game can very well be in the mixture of ingredients. That doesn't make the game bad. The mind using the

game in whatever way he or she chooses is adding ingredients that might not be palatable, though.

 

If he has a warped mind and he spends a lot of time outside of reality, when in fact, our children tend to have

the opportunity to do frequently, and is taught things other than principles and that life has no meaning, then

gos an plays a game, I can certainly see the potential of someone like this coming out of the dough given

enough time for the yeast to rise.

 

Quit being so defensive about your games. We all play them. Most of us are not crazy, however.

Edited March 18, 2013 by 6.8 AR

[JAB]

What about the 10 year old kids that are not as mentally stable as you were?  There are hundreds of thousands of kids in this country that have severe emotional or mental issues. Violent issues. You can read about them just about every day in the news. Adam Lanza is a prime example of this. No one is saying it will automatically happen to everyone that plays these violent games.

 

Well, then, just as devil's advocate the argument really COULD be made that those same individuals wouldn't be able to act upon their desire to be mass shooters if firearms weren't so readily available.  Personally, I have never heard of anyone murdering a large group of people with a video game.

 

Honestly, I don't think we need to make scapegoats of video games any more than we make scapegoats of firearms.  Like guns, video games are inanimate objects.  They don't kill anyone and they don't 'cause' anyone to become killers any more than firearms do.  Blaming one inanimate object in order to remove blame from another is simply ridiculous, IMO.

 

I remember when heavy metal music was supposedly 'causing' people to commit suicide.  Bullcrap.  Mental instability and a desire to kill themselves did that - it was simply easier to blame the music than to accept that the person committing suicide was, somehow, mentally flawed.  I listened to such music (and still do) and I have survived.

 

I remember when playing Dungeons and Dragons was supposedly 'causing' people to flip out and kill their parents, etc.  Bullcrap.  Mental instability and some deep-seated problems did that - it was simply easier to blame D&D than to accept that the person committing the crime was, somehow, mentally flawed and that there was probably no way of knowing that until he or she committed a crime.  I used to play D&D - along with other RPGs - and have reached the age of 41 without murdering anyone.

 

Now it is video games and movies that are causing such things.  Bullcrap.  I've played video games for years.  I grew up watching Dirty Harry, Death Wish, The Terminator and so on.  None of those things made me go on a murderous rampage.

 

Hell, I even survived a childhood full of hearing horrible stories from this really old book about things like a guy who bashed his brother's head in with a rock because he was jealous, a woman who was devoured by dogs (except for the soles of her feet and palms of her hands), a supposedly 'righteous' man who plotted to murder (sacrifice) his own son because the voices in his head told him to do so and a really powerful being that destroyed all life on Earth with the exception of one man and his family.  I got through it all without becoming a raving lunatic - and if graphic, bloody violence like that contained in those stories won't screw someone up then I don't know what will!

 

People were committing horrible atrocities long before video games came about.  Some people would commit horrible atrocities even if they were never exposed to a single video game, movie, etc.  Heck, people even managed to do pretty horrible things to each other (and themselves) before guns were invented.  I'm not buying that video games have a thing to do with it beyond being a convenient scapegoat to avoid the fact that some people are simply downright bad from the word go.

Edited March 19, 2013 by JAB

[Sam1]

Wow, why is this just now coming to surface?

 

Possibly because the anti-gun argument is going downhill fast and they may be changing strategies to supercharge the restrictions via mental health issues.  

[Poor_Dog]

There's a reason we don't sell pornography to children...

[Randall53]

Again....it's not the video game. It's the violent games mixed with a screwed up mind. A particular situation. And, your right about people not protecting firearms from these same people. Like Adam lanza's mother knowing her son was very troubled, yet allowing him free access to the weapons. A disaster in the makng....a "perfect storm". If she had owned a gun safe and kept the combo secret, I don't think this tragedy would have occurred.

[.357SIG]

It is not the video games to blame just as it is not the gun to blame. They are both objects or things, they are incapable of being evil or having ill intentions. Placing the blame on something other than the PERSONS that commit these heinous acts is wrong and allows these people to not be held fully responsible for their actions.

 

If the new information is true it looks like there were MULTIPLE warning signs and red flags that were ignored.

[Randall53]

Without quoting your entire post, JAB, It's not the video games by themselves. Nor is it violence on TV, Movies, etc.....99.999% of the people can play, watch and move on. Millions can sit and watch porn, laugh and go on with their life. Some get obsessed and can't move on.  Do they all become rapists?  No, but some do. Ted Bundy as an avid porno freak and admitted it. Other serial killers have said the same thing.

 

But what about kids and violence? Mix the violent video games with millions of kids and say only 15 get obsessed and can't move on? What if only 5 of them have available guns in their house like the Lanza's.  I understand everyone want's to protect the games that they played and have grown up normal and now their kids are playing them.  Understandable. But lets say only 3 out of all those millions are affected and have availability to guns, then yes, I believe they can lead to these killings in a very small number of people.  Do I think they need to stop selling games because of this?  Not really. But they do have an age limit on them which many parents totally ignore. Then you have people like Adam Lanza's mother who should have had enough damn sense to keep the guns locked up. I mean crap, she was trying to get her kid put into a mental hospital for crying out loud!!!  I couldn't go to bed at night knowing my guns were available to a child of mine and he was mentally unstable.  I do understand that the Left is going to take the mentally ball and run with it.  They will use it against us.  They already are.  Obama has already encouraged every Doctor to question their patients on whether they have guns at home.  They're gonna do the same with our kids in the schools. The battle is coming like a freight train and every one of these aspects of the problem is going to play a part.