Help Identify These Shells

[Smokin45]

Can anyone identify these shells or have any input to give.   Thank You

         

 

Some extra info   1st shell  2.2" OAL     1.62" Length of Brass Dia. of bullet .60"  O/S Dia. of brass .610"  Bottom Rim Dia.  .735"

                            2nd       2.25" OAL     1.55" "           "     "      "            "      .425"  "     "   bottom brass .550"  Neck Dia. .440  Bottom rim Dia. .610"

                            3rd        2.60  OAL     2.0"    "           "     "      "           "       .450  "     "      "         "        .570    "       "      .450    "          "     "    .660   Rim Fire H on the bottom

Edited March 15, 2013 by smokin45

[Jonnin]

the third one looks like a 30-30 --- making the first one a 44 mag?  This is a best guess after zooming in to see numbers on the tape measure.

 

Making the middle --- I have no idea, its not a tokerev, its too big.  hmm.

Edited March 15, 2013 by Jonnin

[gregintenn]

The one on the left is well over 2" long. A 44 mag is 1.61" oal.

[Smokin45]

I wish I could get these pics to enlarge

[gjohnsoniv]

One looks like a rather large rimfire caliber.

[gregintenn]

One looks like a rather large rimfire caliber.

Good call! 41 Swiss Vetterli?

[gjohnsoniv]

Good call! 41 Swiss Vetterli?

 

 

Good call! 41 Swiss Vetterli?

I have no clue. I just don't see a primer or pin which makes me think rimfire. Your guess is as good as mine.

[Jonnin]

I see i was late on the swiss rifle -- I am pretty sure that is correct.

Best guess I have atm on the other is a 43 rolling block?

 

http://www.gunauction.com/buy/9520572/collectible-ammo-for-sale/early-transitional/rem-umc-43-spanish-cartridge

Edited March 16, 2013 by Jonnin

[gregintenn]

#1 is a toss up between a 577 Snyder and a 58 U.S. Berdan Musket.

 

#2 11x52R aka 43 Beaumont.

 

#3 I'm sticking with 41 Swiss Veterli.

 

These are still all guesses at some really old, odd stuff.

Edited March 16, 2013 by gregintenn

[Smokin45]

#1 is a toss up between a 577 Snyder and a 58 U.S. Berdan Musket.

 

#2 11x52R aka 43 Beaumont.

 

#3 I'm sticking with 41 Swiss Veterli.

 

These are still all guesses at some really old, odd stuff.

I think the mystery is solved  Thanks to all with your input.  #1 is a 58 us Berdan as observed on ammo-0ne.com   The 58 is a straight wall and the 577 is slightly tapered.

                                                                                             #2 is as you have stated and observed in ammo-one

                                                                                            #3  is also as stated and observed on ammo-one

I beliveve untill proven wrong that these are correct    Thanks again

[gregintenn]

That was fun! Show us some more. :up: