Has Zimmerman Waived His Right to a Pre-Trial "Stand-Your-Ground" Hearing?

[mikegideon]

If the prosecution is able to have Martin's testify that the screams are coming from Trayvon, I sure hope the defense calls on Zimmerman's mother to testify that the screams are coming from George.

 

The defense hasn't missed a beat yet. I popped into the Commie News Network to see what the libtards were saying about all of this. They're hung up on the fact that he had a round chambered. They even said <some> cops carry with a round chambered... personal choice :screwy:  I'm always glad to see idiots get some schooling. I'm counting on the defense to do that. They have their whole case to present.

[Guest nra37922]

The prosecution has said that they will call Martin's mother to the stand as a witness, but his parents were given special permission by the judge to be in the courtroom prior to being called.  Zimmerman's parents were not allowed to attend, because the prosecution put them on the 'potential' witness list, although they will most likely not be called.  I'm sure the judge and lawyers have some legal mumbo jumbo to justify it, but it seems like a double standard to me.

AND this surprises you ?   This farce is nothing but a show trial put on by the politicians to appease the Jesse Jackass and AL NotsoSharp(ton)a of the country.  No effort on the governments side to get to the truth they just want to 'hang' Zimmerman to take care of one of their political bases. 

 

When the country finally realizes that assholes come in all sizes, colors, religions and ages and that sometimes they end up getting what the deserve, sometimes sooner rather than later, we will be on the road to racial healing.

[RichardR]

AND this surprises you ? This farce is nothing but a show trial put on by the politicians to appease the Jesse Jackass and AL NotsoSharp(ton)a of the country. No effort on the governments side to get to the truth they just want to 'hang' Zimmerman to take care of one of their political bases.

When the country finally realizes that assholes come in all sizes, colors, religions and ages and that sometimes they end up getting what the deserve, sometimes sooner rather than later, we will be on the road to racial healing.

Won't ever happen.

"Identity politics" is to profitable, to powerful, it'll never be discarded.

[TMF]

I'm not wearing panties, these are boxer-briefs & they are not twisted (facts vs emotional assertions).

Just as your opinion, based solely on your emotion/feelings are irrelevant to Zimmerman's guilt or innocence, which as I said previously all of the factual evidence & *credible* testimony clearly show Zimmerman is innocent of 2nd degree murder.

The trial has already exonerated him as far as I'm concerned.

 

As far as YOU'RE concerned.  That is your opinion, and oddly enough it doesn't offend me.

 

My opinion isn't based on emotion.  Just because some are doesn't mean mine is.  Once again, folks who take a narrow minded view try to lump everyone into one category and make them guilty by association.  An example, many of the Sharpton crowd think that if you think Zimmerman is innocent you are a racist.  I don't believe that at all, but you and Sharpton share quite a common thread to make such accusations.

[TMF]

You're the one getting worked up over this. I was just asking you to explain your position and you went into some rant about OJ Simpson.

I realize people get away with crimes every day because of a lack of evidence. I was asking you to tell me what makes Zimmerman guilty and you apparently can't do that.

I admit that going into the trial I thought he was innocent but I was also willing to accept the fact that there may be evidence we dont know about. Now I'm convinced the state never had a case.

 

 

I can, and I already have.  I'm not going to go back and cut and paste every post I made on the subject.  If you are so concerned about it use the search function and read it yourself.  I have no obligation to justify my opinions to you.

 

And if it looks to be as if I'm worked up, it was in response to veiled, passive-aggressive insults by another member.  It irritates me when folks do that.  If you have something to say, come out and say it, but don't take the chick's way out.  I quoted him, not you.  So that has nothing to do with our conversation.  It seems you just chose to make it a part of it to fit your narrative.  Good job, you would make a great liberal.

[RichardR]

As far as YOU'RE concerned. That is your opinion, and oddly enough it doesn't offend me.

My opinion isn't based on emotion. Just because some are doesn't mean mine is. Once again, folks who take a narrow minded view try to lump everyone into one category and make them guilty by association. An example, many of the Sharpton crowd think that if you think Zimmerman is innocent you are a racist. I don't believe that at all, but you and Sharpton share quite a common thread to make such accusations.

Ok, so what are you basing your "Zimmerman is guilty of something" OPINION on then?

[DaveS]

It's that way with all of us that think Zman is a POS. I have an opinion and will stand by it until the jury reads it's verdict. Pure and simple!

[TMF]

Ok, so what are you basing your "Zimmerman is guilty of something" OPINION on then?

 

Have a nice day.

[TripleDigitRide]

It's that way with all of us that think Zman is a POS. I have an opinion and will stand by it until the jury reads it's verdict. Pure and simple!

Now, that's an opinion. But being a POS doesn't make you guilty of murder or manslaughter or jaywalking....

Edited July 4, 2013 by TripleDigitRide

[mikegideon]

It's that way with all of us that think Zman is a POS. I have an opinion and will stand by it until the jury reads it's verdict. Pure and simple!

 

I'll give you credit for sticking to your guns 'til the end :)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I have no problem with him changing his mind but that's not what he said. He still believes he is guilty but also thinks he will be found not guilty.

 

It doesn't make any sense.

His posts make enough sense to me. Who said someone changed their mind? He made some good observations, which

he certainly is capable of. Your questioning him on personal opinions doesn't do anything, Erik, but sound like some kind

of silly confrontation. Because someone disagrees doesn't make the situation change. We're all making our own

observations. That's all they are. I know him. He ain't stupid. What's your point?

[TripleDigitRide]

On a few occasions, DavidS mention "personal" reasons as playing a part in his decision making process regarding the guilt or innocence of Zimmerman. It's become obvious that those personal reasons are playing a far bigger part in that process, when compared to logic and common sense.

My only issue with that is, thought processes like that make for a very dangerous potential jury pool.

[Mike.357]

I'll give you credit for sticking to your guns 'til the end :)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

 

i like this better even though I am guilty sometimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA

[mikegideon]

On a few occasions, DavidS mention "personal" reasons as playing a part in his decision making process regarding the guilt or innocence of Zimmerman. It's become obvious that those personal reasons are playing a far bigger part in that process, when compared to logic and common sense.

My only issue with that is, thought processes like that make for a very dangerous potential jury pool.

 

The pool was nasty. How many did they have to go through before they got enough good ones?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Almost everyone has personal reasons for their beliefs and actions. It's something you can't, or shouldn't take

away from an individual. It's called living and learning.

 

As far as a jury having personal reasons, that's why there is something called the jury selection process: to

remove that from the verdict.

[mikegideon]

i like this better even though I am guilty sometimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA

 

:rofl:  If we can get some homos and some Jesus, this thread will have everything :)

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Well rounded then, eh?

[c.a.willard]

I think the original pool was somewhere just north of 100 of which they narrowed down to 40 for the more thorough process of questioning.  out of those 40 they were able to find the required six primaries and 4 alternates. Mr Branca covered it more in depth at the time so if you want numbers and reasons why they were let go then you can probably look it up in his previous blogs on the jury selection process

[TripleDigitRide]

The pool was nasty. How many did they have to go through before they got enough good ones?

We're assuming they chose good ones.
Edited July 4, 2013 by TripleDigitRide

[Mike.357]

:rofl:  If we can get some homos and some Jesus, this thread will have everything :)

since you axed for it

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQpgliX1pRE

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uMJYQ9LKGQ

[Guest nra37922]

BSNBC News Alert

 

President Obama to issue an executive order mandating that 26 February be declared a national holiday to commemorate all the black youths gunned down by white Hispanics.

[mikegideon]

since you axed for it

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQpgliX1pRE

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uMJYQ9LKGQ

 

I got to thinking. This IS TGO, so out of 520 posts, there had to be some mention of Jesus already. Add to that, Erik is kind of a homo. I think we were already there! :) 

[RobertNashville]

Thanks for keeping us informed, Andrew...it's appreciated; at least by most of us. ;)

[mikegideon]

I just wonder....my friend spots had to get vendor status for offering his hand forged knives for sale. Should there be any difference here? Rules are rules right?

 

Dave

 

That may be an accidental post. AFIK, that book was for sale before Andrew showed up here. In fact, the first edition came out in 1998.

[Guest Law of Self Defense]

Thanks for keeping us informed, Andrew...it's appreciated; at least by most of us. ;)

 

My pleasure.

 

Andrew

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