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DGU on E. Knox Robbery


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Smith told the News Sentinel he chased the man outside. He said the
robber fired at least one shot at him from a .38 caliber revolver. Smith
said he returned fire, although he wasn’t sure how many shots he fired
or whether he hit the gunman. He said the robber dropped the money.

 

Shot the guy while he was running away?  That won't end well.

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Shot the guy while he was running away?  That won't end well.

He didn't shoot him while he was running away. He followed him out and the bad guy chose to escalate. I know I would have went outside to look for a plate on a get away car, or to see what direction the bad guy went, to help police track him down.

 

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I don't think it was smart, from a legal standpoint, to chase the guy and get into a gunfight after the danger had ended. That being said, I don't think any charges should be filed unless the guy in the alley makes a formal complaint. :pleased:

Edited by PapaB
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Another success story. Personally, I think it should be legal to use deadly force to get your stuff back from someone who won't willingly give it back to you, but in this case the robber shot at him, the manager returned fire an won. It doesn't really matter which way a person is facing when they shoot at you. I hear, according to physics, that bullets travel the direction they are fired, not the direction the shooter is necessarily facing.

Give that man a medal. Feed the corpse of the deceased to pigs.
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Give that man a medal. Feed the corpse of the deceased to pigs.

 

"You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together."
[...]
"And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig shit, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, 'as greedy as a pig'."

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I guess it all depends on where the entry and exit wounds are.


Actually it doesn't. A person is fully capable of firing a weapon toward someone while facing the other way. Look around on YouTube of MOST self defense shoots where the robber fired shots and the victim returned fire.. Especially those that take place in convenient stores. The criminals shoot as they're running away; backs turned and everything. Is that a valid shoot? Well, bullets aren't any less hazardous to your health when the attacker has his back to you. As far as I'm concerned, any reasonable person can articulate why an armed man with his back to you is still a threat. If he has already shown that he is armed I'm going to shoot him unless he is actively surrendering.
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"You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together."[/size][...]"And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig shit, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, 'as greedy as a pig'."[/size]


Great movie.
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"You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together."[/size][...]"And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig shit, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, 'as greedy as a pig'."[/size]

I've read this before but I can't place it. Care to refresh?


ETA: ahh, heard it, not read it. Got its source. Great film. Edited by Chucktshoes
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Actually it doesn't. A person is fully capable of firing a weapon toward someone while facing the other way. Look around on YouTube of MOST self defense shoots where the robber fired shots and the victim returned fire.. Especially those that take place in convenient stores. The criminals shoot as they're running away; backs turned and everything. Is that a valid shoot? Well, bullets aren't any less hazardous to your health when the attacker has his back to you. As far as I'm concerned, any reasonable person can articulate why an armed man with his back to you is still a threat. If he has already shown that he is armed I'm going to shoot him unless he is actively surrendering.

 

 

Point taken. 

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Actually it doesn't. A person is fully capable of firing a weapon toward someone while facing the other way. Look around on YouTube of MOST self defense shoots where the robber fired shots and the victim returned fire.. Especially those that take place in convenient stores. The criminals shoot as they're running away; backs turned and everything. Is that a valid shoot? Well, bullets aren't any less hazardous to your health when the attacker has his back to you. As far as I'm concerned, any reasonable person can articulate why an armed man with his back to you is still a threat. If he has already shown that he is armed I'm going to shoot him unless he is actively surrendering.

 

 

Actually it doesn't. A person is fully capable of firing a weapon toward someone while facing the other way. Look around on YouTube of MOST self defense shoots where the robber fired shots and the victim returned fire.. Especially those that take place in convenient stores. The criminals shoot as they're running away; backs turned and everything. Is that a valid shoot? Well, bullets aren't any less hazardous to your health when the attacker has his back to you. As far as I'm concerned, any reasonable person can articulate why an armed man with his back to you is still a threat. If he has already shown that he is armed I'm going to shoot him unless he is actively surrendering.

A cop friend of mine would agree with this point after getting shot this way.

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Hard to say one way or another without having witnessed the event, lots of possibilities there, so it is hard for me to second guess the guy &/or his actions without more facts, that said, I personally would not shoot a fleeing hostile unless they were still engaging me while they were fleeing & I certainly wouldn't allow an active shooter to get behind cover/concealment, even if that included me having to shoot the shooter in his back to prevent it.

Shame that some sheeple will only look at "shot in his back" as guilty as charged & seek to convict the guy without even considering the possibility of it being a good shoot.
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