Hornady

[Guest Joshua__423]

Is there any difference between the hornady critical defense and the zombie max ammo? I have some critical defense for my lcp but they were out for the 45 so i purchased the zombie loads. Is one inferior to the other or is the plastic for the tip just a different color? Please help!!!

[Fourtyfive]

I think the tip color is the only diff besides case color.

Edited February 23, 2013 by Threeeighty

[jimmydeuce]

From what I've read they're the same. I've not tried them on zombies though.........yet. :D

[glock55]

they are different ammo completely. critical defense: nickel case low light visiblity,ftx bullet for expansion,low flash powder,

                                                           zombie ammo: z max bullet,brass ,high volocities

Edited February 23, 2013 by glock55

[maroonandwhite]

they are different ammo completely. critical defense: nickel case low light visiblity,ftx bullet for expansion,low flash powder,
                                                           zombie ammo: z max bullet,brass ,high volocities

Do you have a source for this? Just curious. I've always heard they were the same except for the casing and tip color.

[glock55]

Do you have a source for this? Just curious. I've always heard they were the same except for the casing and tip color.

check the hornady web sight.

[Guest kcb37]

I have always heard they were the same, and have seen several youtube videos showing they performed the same.

Granted these are just some random person doing the "test".  I believe TNoutdoors was one of them.  (Tnoutdoors on youtube)

 

Seems to me it's just a way to charge more for the whole zombie craze.

Edited February 23, 2013 by kcb37

[Oh Shoot]

The published fps/ft-lb are slightly different between the two onsite there in 9mm. Didn't look at any other calibers.

 

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[glock55]

I just got off the phone with Gary at hornday regarding the difference between critical defense and zombie ammo. He advised that the critical defense has the following features: nickel case,sealed primer,low flash power,reduced recoil.
The zombie ammo has the following features: brass case,unsealed primer,standard powder. He said the critical defense is a self defense ammo while the zombie ammo is a target ammo in their thinking. Hope this helps

[.357SIG]

I think they might be the same thing as hornady custom ammo with the exception of the ballistic tip.

[maroonandwhite]

I just got off the phone with Gary at hornday regarding the difference between critical defense and zombie ammo. He advised that the critical defense has the following features: nickel case,sealed primer,low flash power,reduced recoil.
The zombie ammo has the following features: brass case,unsealed primer,standard powder. He said the critical defense is a self defense ammo while the zombie ammo is a target ammo in their thinking. Hope this helps

And there we have it! Thanks for clearing that up.

[Fire/hunting guy]

Target ammo that costs a dollar more than the self defense rounds? Okay.......

[glock55]

Target ammo that costs a dollar more than the self defense rounds? Okay.......

Yes I asked the guy at hornady twice about this. I guess it's all about marketing these days?

[Guest Joshua__423]

Glock 55 I can't say about the primers and such but the case is awfully silver to be brass.... Idk Edited February 27, 2013 by joshua_423

[Fire/hunting guy]

Well, I guess what they are saying is it will still go bang and still make holes, but it isn't designed for self defense, well, except from zombies. :stunned:

[Guest Joshua__423]

. Edited February 27, 2013 by joshua_423

[Jonnin]

I just got off the phone with Gary at hornday regarding the difference between critical defense and zombie ammo. He advised that the critical defense has the following features: nickel case,sealed primer,low flash power,reduced recoil.
The zombie ammo has the following features: brass case,unsealed primer,standard powder. He said the critical defense is a self defense ammo while the zombie ammo is a target ammo in their thinking. Hope this helps

Hah I love how they spin the weak power level as low-recoil. 

I am a hornady fan, but a lot of their ammo, esp the crit defense lineup, is weak.

[TN_Hiker]

I just got off the phone with Gary at hornday regarding the difference between critical defense and zombie ammo. He advised that the critical defense has the following features: nickel case,sealed primer,low flash power,reduced recoil.
The zombie ammo has the following features: brass case,unsealed primer,standard powder. He said the critical defense is a self defense ammo while the zombie ammo is a target ammo in their thinking. Hope this helps

Well thanks for finding out and clearing that up. I've been completely under the assumption it's the exact thing with different colored tips, just like someone else had mentioned. This was also what I was told when I had asked about the difference at a store.

 

Looks like I need to find some for my .40, cause right now I have ammo for zombie defense.

Edited February 27, 2013 by Spank

[glock55]

Here is a picture from some inventory I had at the house:

 

[red dirt]

the difference is how the attorney may twist the facts against you if you were ever forced to use either, just sayin