The Resistance is beginning...

[RED333]

The problem I see is we stand up all together, TODAY.

We have to go home, sleep, take care of our family's,

WHO IS GONA WATCH OUR BACKS?

 

That is where the government has us by the short hairs,

they will come at us 1, 2, 3(us) at a time, they will have 20 to 30 on their side and we

will only have a few.

 

We vote out the left, vote in the right, the ones we want, we have to try the civil way.

I hope someone gets this into court and it goes our way.

[jaxjohn419]

This is my 2nd Amendment page on facebook. I post these stories there everyday. LIKE me if you would. I hope posting this here is not a problem. If it is I will gladly remove it, admin. I like being a member here and dont wanna get kicked out.

 

https://www.facebook.com/2ndAmendmentUSA?ref=mf

 

[RichardR]

Unfortunately the courts have become just as corrupt as the politicians who pack the benches with like-minded ideological zealots.

And sadly their ideology has surplanted the Constitution as the supreme law of the land in many of our nations court rooms.

[RobertNashville]

The problem I see is we stand up all together, TODAY.

We have to go home, sleep, take care of our family's,

WHO IS GONA WATCH OUR BACKS?

 

That is where the government has us by the short hairs,

they will come at us 1, 2, 3(us) at a time, they will have 20 to 30 on their side and we

will only have a few.

 

We vote out the left, vote in the right, the ones we want, we have to try the civil way.

I hope someone gets this into court and it goes our way.

One of the reasons people form militias with ability to communicate, etc...which of course, puts every member on the radar of whatever alphabet soup.

 

If I remember correctly, only about 3% of the population of the colonies actually fought in the revolutionary war and breaking away from the British was hardly a uniformly popular decision meaning that getting enough like-minded people together today to actively and perhaps forcefully resist what we believe is an out of control federal government is problematic at best.

I wish I had an answer....but I don't.

Edited February 21, 2013 by RobertNashville

[Guest ThePunisher]

When they start to come, everyone should realize that it's either live free or die a slave. The government is counting on you dying as a slave, and that means being dead all of your existence in their liberal commie utopia. Time will tell how many are willing to live free.

[Guest Dragonman]

Well I am torn, yes I'm glad they are standing up to the governor overstepping the constitution, however it looks like NY is going to turn into a DHS police action training ground and that isn't good for anyone. I say move out of the state by the thousands and let it wither and live to fight another day. I only say this because fighting legislation on a state level is just the beginning and well need all the help we can get when the real SHTF moment comes.

Once you go on the defensive you've already started to lose, just some food for thought. 

OTOH TPTB are most likely watching the festivities unfold with the restless natives in New York and wetting their pants.

[Randall53]

Well I am torn, yes I'm glad they are standing up to the governor overstepping the constitution, however it looks like NY is going to turn into a DHS police action training ground and that isn't good for anyone. I say move out of the state by the thousands and let it wither and live to fight another day. I only say this because fighting legislation on a state level is just the beginning and well need all the help we can get when the real SHTF moment comes.

 

When you run....or flee as you call it, it gives them energy, strength, momentum and it gives them courage.  This will make them want to pursue all gun owners. At what point do you stop? After they split us all up and pick us off one at a time?  Divide and conquer is more than a saying.  Every victory they win will spur them on. Stand up to them now or it's over.

Edited February 27, 2013 by Randall53

[gun sane]

I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

[Jonnin]

One of the reasons people form militias with ability to communicate, etc...which of course, puts every member on the radar of whatever alphabet soup.

 

If I remember correctly, only about 3% of the population of the colonies actually fought in the revolutionary war and breaking away from the British was hardly a uniformly popular decision meaning that getting enough like-minded people together today to actively and perhaps forcefully resist what we believe is an out of control federal government is problematic at best.

I wish I had an answer....but I don't.

Currently the US armed forces are about 3 million, 50% of whom are reserve.

The US population is 300 million & change.

3% of 300 million is 9 million: roughly 3 times the size of the armed forces with the reserve.

 

I do not advocate any sort of nonsense at this time.  I am simply pointing to some numbers for reference.  3% of our population in an armed insurrection would be a HUGE deal. 

[JayC]

More importantly you can't lock up or kill 9 million people...  You have to deal with them, it would force at the very least a political agreement to end the insurgency.  IE look at Afghanistan and Iraq where the 'insurgents' were given seats of power in the government.

 

Even 1% of the population would be 3.15 million which would out number all of our armed government agents, assuming some chunk of the military and the people who provide logistics to the military don't go with the insurgency, and then you have the people who don't want any part of this fight that get up and just go home...  The Federal Government would have a hard time putting together 1 million man army against any insurgency. 

 

Currently the US armed forces are about 3 million, 50% of whom are reserve.

The US population is 300 million & change.

3% of 300 million is 9 million: roughly 3 times the size of the armed forces with the reserve.

 

I do not advocate any sort of nonsense at this time.  I am simply pointing to some numbers for reference.  3% of our population in an armed insurrection would be a HUGE deal. 

 

[RobertNashville]

Humm...I don't know...armed drones, tanks, helicopters and grenades can make up for big differences in numbers.

 

How many of the "300 million" are the right age to fight effectively?

How many who are the right age to fight effectively hold to the same philosophy that you would be fighting for?

 

Of those, how many would actually put their lives on the line to go out and kill other Americans?

 

I don't believe war is the answer nor that such a resistance would ultimately win even if war was the answer...if we can't turn things around at the ballot box (and I've no illusions about that) then I think the great experiment is over.

Edited February 27, 2013 by RobertNashville

[zapfbroad]

Not to not express solidarity with our northern gun totin brotherhood members BUT.. this didn't happen overnight in NY. Whilest those in upstate may be somewhat victims of circumstance for being in the same dominion as their southern prolific cousins in The City... they too have endorsed all these asinine liberal prerogatives for too long. The state As a whole has made their beds, complete with vermin chewin at the bedposts & lichen under the pillows & roaches skittering all abouts. It's time to face the musique. If we have to sacrifice NY as the new ground zero for the people VS. the state, I'd rather they hurry up and go all out with it. Roll in the fema boxcars, hundreds of drones, dhs checkpoint booths, dhs kiddie killer soldiers & half dozen other 'conspiracy theories'. Unleash all the goodies for the whole rest of the country to see. 

Only then, when & if the atrocities actually become known will this country face the cold hard reality of this daydream fantasy of ol uncle baby daddy sam taking care of them for life - that has been Progressively becoming more rampant over the last few decades with a sultry culmination this last few years. All these lib/progressive/lunatic politicians & fanboys/girls are out of the closet now, we know who are the dangerous ones, that means they're ready.. When they come out of the shadows & declare themselves & rejoice in their splendor & expect you to acquiesce to their demands... well in Hollywood that's usually when the final fight starts.

[zapfbroad]

Only in NY would the effects be widespread enough to present a cataclysmic change. If it bled over into the city it would collapse our entire financial system & the federal government would insert themselves with a quickness and precipitate the effects necessary to wake up this population of complacent, apathetic & indoctrinated sheep.

[TMF]

Civil disobedience would put an end to this nonsense without a single shot needing to be fired. Of course, what you're risking with that approach is the loss of your rights and a criminal history, so either everyone has to do it or no one. Ya can't go halfies on that, and unfortunately gun owners are statistically the most law aiding folks in society.

[mikegideon]

Civil disobedience would put an end to this nonsense without a single shot needing to be fired. Of course, what you're risking with that approach is the loss of your rights and a criminal history, so either everyone has to do it or no one. Ya can't go halfies on that, and unfortunately gun owners are statistically the most law aiding folks in society.

 

And, what do we get for our efforts? The War on Guns.

[Randall53]

From that video, it looks like we're going to see how non-compliance works.  That would probably be the answer.  No way could they handle the court cases if millions just said NO!

[TMF]

From that video, it looks like we're going to see how non-compliance works.  That would probably be the answer.  No way could they handle the court cases if millions just said NO!

I agree, but how many of us are willing to do that? These laws being passed around the country are really the nut up or shut up moment. If there is a widespread lack of compliance you would see an end to all this silliness, but I just don't think the gun owning crowd wants a criminal record. They got us by the short hairs and we're only left with two options, in my opinion. The option of voting these loonies out isn't an option any more. The majority no longer believe in the principles of the 2nd Amendment.

[maroonandwhite]

I agree, but how many of us are willing to do that? These laws being passed around the country are really the nut up or shut up moment. If there is a widespread lack of compliance you would see an end to all this silliness, but I just don't think the gun owning crowd wants a criminal record. They got us by the short hairs and we're only left with two options, in my opinion. The option of voting these loonies out isn't an option any more. The majority no longer believe in the principles of the 2nd Amendment.

I agree 100%. Majority rules in most things including who is voted in/out. Unfortunately we don't seem to be the majority.

[JayC]

Which is why our founding fathers put in place a Constitution which limited the tyranny of the majority.  

 

I agree 100%. Majority rules in most things including who is voted in/out. Unfortunately we don't seem to be the majority.

 

[TMF]

Which is why our founding fathers put in place a Constitution which limited the tyranny of the majority.

You can't make a point about the purpose and legitimacy of the Constitution to a crowd of folks who don't believe in the document in the first place. I'm beginning to believe that the majority view the Constitution as an obsolete document that should be rewritten. I've heard a person argue against its legitimacy based on the fact that some of the framers had slaves. This is the kind of hopeless dumbassery we're up against. Edited February 28, 2013 by TMF

[maroonandwhite]

Which is why our founding fathers put in place a Constitution which limited the tyranny of the majority.  

I agree but like TMF said, if the majority doesn't belief in the constitution then it does no good. I haven't given up hope yet but I am worried.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

That's why there are protections against the tyranny of the majority. We are still a republic. We haven't adopted

all the principles of "majority rule", quite yet, and if all the folks who believe in those polls that are continuously

bombarding society will try to remember this, we will still have a chance to save our republic.

 

A republic is not a mob. We really need to remember this and fight for it, if need be, because it is the only difference

between falling down to a communist state(mob rule until the noose is tight around the neck)and remaining free.

 

What I really mean to say is I don't really give a damn, any more, what those so-called "low information

voters" think. They are voting us into the abyss and they will be the first to starve to death when their

Obamaphone can't get a connection to the foodstamp office.

 

I think I'll stop now.

Edited February 28, 2013 by 6.8 AR

[RobertNashville]

I think the point is that if a majority of voters in a majority of the states are going to continue to put into office, those who look at the Constitution with contempt, hatred, just don't care or are outright socialists then that "majority" will prevent the rest of us from moving the country back to its roots as a republic.

And yeah, not only will those "low information voters" be the first to starve to death when their Obamaphone can't get a connection to the foodstamp office they'll also be the first to march in the streets, terrorize others and try to take by force (of numbers if not with guns) from the prepared whatever the prepared have.

 

 

[Guest MilitiaMan]

Molon labe. Plain and simple. 

 

Months ago, whenever I spoke with friends or other pro gun folks, I was called a "nut" and told I was simply wishing for blood when I spoke of defending my rights and my freedoms at all costs. This was to include the use of force or violence.

 

Funny how a few short months later there are so many more that are realizing where we are headed.

 

I certainly wish for peace and simply want to be left alone. Sadly, this will not and can not be the case under the circumstances we find ourselves in with the current administration.

[Randall53]

I agree but like TMF said, if the majority doesn't belief in the constitution then it does no good. I haven't given up hope yet but I am worried.

 

You are right.  Lots of comments can be found on news comments sections ect....about the constitution being an outdated document. There's simply a large group of people in this country that want to change it. I too am afraid that eventually they will get it done.  Not just the 2nd amendment, but many more freedoms will go along with it.