The Resistance is beginning...

[jaxjohn419]

http://bwcentral.org/2013/02/the-resistance-begins-new-york-gun-owners-refuse-to-register/

[rugerla1]

Glad to see them hammering those lying pieces of crap!

[Currently]

Bravo!

/standing ovation/ Edited February 20, 2013 by Currently

[RobertNashville]

Damn glad to see it...maybe there actually are some people left in this country, even in New York state, with a little backbone.

[Jonnin]

the more they tighten their grip, the more will slip thru their fingers....     CA has a backbone too.  In both cases, the conservatives are simply vastly outnumbered by an inner-city dumb voter breeding program produced by  a system that increases your handouts and freebies if you increase the number of voters in the pool.

[Independent_shooter]

I hate it for those people.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

the more they tighten their grip, the more will slip thru their fingers....     CA has a backbone too.  In both cases, the conservatives are simply vastly outnumbered by an inner-city dumb voter breeding program produced by  a system that increases your handouts and freebies if you increase the number of voters in the pool.

And Cali will be a wasteland if anything ever happens of magnitude out there. Like a bunch of gangs will take moonbeam's

power away from him. Cali is a disaster in waiting.

[Guest 556or762]

Well I am torn, yes I'm glad they are standing up to the governor overstepping the constitution, however it looks like NY is going to turn into a DHS police action training ground and that isn't good for anyone. I say move out of the state by the thousands and let it wither and live to fight another day. I only say this because fighting legislation on a state level is just the beginning and well need all the help we can get when the real SHTF moment comes.

[mav]

Interesting and actually surprising.  I thought one of the best quotes of the video was (paraphrasing)

Mayor Bloomberg says assault weapons are for war.  If that is the case, then why do cops need them?  Who are they at war with?

 

Good question.

 

It is my belief that if a police department can purchase brand new selective fire guns, then so should law abiding civilians.

Edited February 20, 2013 by mav

[TMF]

I think the best way to fight this is with civil disobedience from New Yorkers. I just don't think that it will happen, since gun owners have abided by the law their whole life, they will likely continue to do so. I think that is what is driving us so mad, because we don't want to break the law and so we are taken advantage of by the left.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

It won't continue forever, though.

[Guest Lester Weevils]

I think the best way to fight this is with civil disobedience from New Yorkers. I just don't think that it will happen, since gun owners have abided by the law their whole life, they will likely continue to do so. I think that is what is driving us so mad, because we don't want to break the law and so we are taken advantage of by the left.

 

That is what broke the back of canadian long gun registration, especially out west. Grumpy canadian rural rednecks refusing to comply, and some provinces refusing to cooperate.

 

However, the canadian culture is rather liberal in both the old classical jeffersonian sense and also the newer sense. Canada has its share of obnoxious authoritarians but isn't nearly so authoritarian as USA, which has been real authoritarian for at least 100 years. Even among the founders there were a few heavy-handed authoritarians among the power echelons. Authoritarian is a distinct personality trait which is uncorrelated with the liberal/conservative spectrum. An authoritarian will make an a$$ of himself pushing any old set of beliefs on everyone around him. Conservative, capitalist, commie, liberal, religious, atheist, unionist, non-unionist-- All fertile belief systems for authoritarians. I suppose a fella could even be an authoritarian libertarian though an authoritarian libertarian might be laughably full of contradictions. "I will take your property and put you in jail unless you immediately begin to exercise your freedom to do exactly what you want, provided it harms no one else." :)

 

Just sayin, the canadians are not very likely to institute storm trooper SWAT pograms against their own citizens, for such minor issue as refusal to submit a form. OTOH, we have plenty of USA politicians who would do it in a heartbeat, and we have millions of authoritarian power-worshiping sheeple who would cheer them on. So civil disobedience in rural New York USA might be a whole lot bloodier than was civil disobedience in British Columbia Canada.

[LagerHead]

Well I am torn, yes I'm glad they are standing up to the governor overstepping the constitution, however it looks like NY is going to turn into a DHS police action training ground and that isn't good for anyone. I say move out of the state by the thousands and let it wither and live to fight another day. I only say this because fighting legislation on a state level is just the beginning and well need all the help we can get when the real SHTF moment comes.

 

You could be right about the DHS training ground, I don't know. I hope you're wrong. But I don't think the answer is to flee. We need to dig in and fight everywhere, not just where the gun laws aren't as bad as New York, Illinois, and California. We need to fight for our constitutional rights especially in those place where they are in the greatest jeopardy. And in places like Tennessee where at least we can buy our rights from our generous government we need to fight to be able to exercise our rights for free and not be forced to prove we aren't criminals in order to do so.

[Punisher84]

It won't continue forever, though.

 

This is my thought as well. Everybody has a breaking point and eventually a large portion of this country is going to hit it. When and what will cause it I have no clue, but it will happen. Whether that ends in a shift back to way it should be or ends in bloodshed and only a short pause in the wheels of the machine, who knows.

[mikegideon]

It won't continue forever, though.

 

Correct

[Poor_Dog]

It won't continue forever, though.

 

I have nothing left for these politicians, nothing in common, no shared values, no beliefs.

 

They are not friends of mine, nor will we ever find common ground.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Well I am torn, yes I'm glad they are standing up to the governor overstepping the constitution, however it looks like NY is going to turn into a DHS police action training ground and that isn't good for anyone. I say move out of the state by the thousands and let it wither and live to fight another day. I only say this because fighting legislation on a state level is just the beginning and well need all the help we can get when the real SHTF moment comes.

I can't wait until the first DHS employee fires his weapon on a New York resident. They will have to deputize thousands, because

all they will have done is piss a lot of people off to the max. It could only take one drop of blood to cause a huge problem in what's

left of our republic.

[Guest EYEMAN]

I think the best way to fight this is with civil disobedience from New Yorkers. I just don't think that it will happen, since gun owners have abided by the law their whole life, they will likely continue to do so. I think that is what is driving us so mad, because we don't want to break the law and so we are taken advantage of by the left.

Is it not ironic that there is a possibility that the lying, law breaking politicians in Washington could possibly force the law abiding citizens of our country to become criminals.

[Guest ThePunisher]

Bravo for these NY patriots standing up for their Constitutional rights. This whole country is vulnerable to these commie politicians passing assinine laws that are taking away our liberties and freedoms everyday. It's time for the citizenry of this country to stand up to these freedom grabbers, and remind them that they work for us, "We The People".

[homeagain]

I lived in Niagara County NY (next over from Erie) for a year.  Have friends and family there.  Definitely not typical 'New Yorkers' that we think of down here.....they're really just a bunch of good ole' boys that talk kinda funny.  Misplaced hillbillies, kinda.  They tend to be pretty darned conservative and most of the people I talked to there would secede from the state if given a chance.  If it weren't for the taxes, the gun laws and the even-more-corrupt-than-usual government I'd still be there.  Beautiful country, big farms, HUGE deer, the best fishing I've seen....the gun laws were the deal breaker for me.

[Wheelgunner]

The American Redoubt is looking increasingly appealing.

[RobertNashville]

I believe the time may come, and sooner than we would have expected just a scant year or two ago, when those who value their rights are going to have to decide to take a stand and say "no more" and face the consequences or capitulate.

[Mark A]

I think that may be the best piece of video I have ever watched...

I think the country is really ready to dial things back a bit...by force if necessary.

I would be happy to stand with my northern rednecks....

[Guest glocklocker19]

Seeing this this morning makes me thankful I'm a Tennessee resident where I've lived happily now for more than 20 years. (DISCLAIMER: I was born and raised in the not so great Commonwealth of Massachussetts, another tax infested, gun unfriendly state like New York)

 

Glad to see these people stand up for their rights and I hope they keep the resistance going. 

[JayC]

It's not going to take a large portion of the country...  The Dorner incident proves that 10 or 100 lone wolves would paralyze the police in even a large state to the point they would begin violating more and more rights turning more and more people against them in the process.

 

Insurgencies are nasty and virtually impossible to win once they get started.

 

This is my thought as well. Everybody has a breaking point and eventually a large portion of this country is going to hit it. When and what will cause it I have no clue, but it will happen. Whether that ends in a shift back to way it should be or ends in bloodshed and only a short pause in the wheels of the machine, who knows.