Is $20,000 Per Year “Affordable� Health Care?

[mcurrier]

Is $20,000 Per Year “Affordable” Health Care?

 

http://politichicks.tv/column/is-20000-per-year-affordable-health-care/

Edited February 18, 2013 by mcurrier

[KaNuckles]

I saw this somewhere the other day. That is $1,666.67/month. That's more than a lot of people make in a month. 

[Steelharp]

Considering my total income last year was that... :(

 

No.

[Chucktshoes]

When my portion and my employer's portion are added together, it is what the insurance for my family of three cost for 2012.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

That's just today's price. The thing for pre-existing conditions is being cut, because the fools ran out of money. How soon

do you think it will take to bankrupt the country with all those covered who aren't going to pay one single dime for their

coverage?

 

Tomorrow's price will likely be double. That's why the fools have the IRS in charge of collections.

 

Your coverage under Obamacare just went to Hell, and left you with the bill.

[Steelharp]

(From an e-mail)

 

I was in my neighborhood restaurant this morning and was seated behind a group of jubilant individuals celebrating the coming
implementation of the health care bill. I could not finish my breakfast. This is what ensued:
  
They were a diverse group of several races and both sexes. I heard the young man exclaim, “Isn’t Obama like Jesus Christ? I mean, after all, he is healing the sick.” The young woman enthusiastically proclaimed, “Yeah, and he does it for free. I cannot believe anyone would think that a free market would work for health care. Another said, ‘The stupid Republicans want us all to starve to death so they can inherit all of the power. Obama should be made a Saint for what he did for those of us less fortunate.” At this, I
had more than enough.I arose from my seat, mustering all the restraint I could find, and approached their table. “Please
excuse me; may I impose upon you for one moment?”  They smiled and welcomed me to the conversation. I stood at the end of their table, smiled as best I could and began an experiment.
  
“I would like to give one of you my house. It will cost you no money and I will pay all of the expenses and taxes for as long as you live there. Anyone interested?” They looked at each other in astonishment. “Why would you do something like that?” asked a young man, “There isn’t anything for free in this world.” They began to laugh at me, as they did not realize this man had just made my point. “I am serious, I will give you my house for free, no money what so ever. Anyone interested?” In unison, a resounding “Hell Yeah” fills the room.
  
“Since there are too many of you, I will have to make a choice as to who receives this money-free bargain.” I noticed an elderly couple was paying attention to the spectacle unfolding before their eyes, the old man shaking his head in apparent disgust. “I tell
you what; I will give it to the one of you most willing to obey my rules.” Again, they looked at one another, an expression of bewilderment on their faces. The perky young woman asked, “What are the rules?” I smiled and said, “I don’t know. I have not yet defined them. However, it is a free home that I offer you.” They giggled amongst themselves, the youngest of which said, “What an old coot. He must be crazy to give away his home. Go take your meds, old man.” I smiled and leaned into the table a bit further.  “I am serious, this is a legitimate offer.” 
 

They gaped at me for a moment.
  
“I’ll take it you old fool. Where are the keys?” boasted the youngest among them. “Then I presume you accept ALL of my terms then?” I asked. The elderly couple seemed amused and entertained as they watched from the privacy of their table. “Oh hell
yeah! Where do I sign up?” I took a napkin and wrote, “I give this man my home, without the burden of financial obligation, so long as he accepts and abides by the terms that I shall set forth upon consummation of this transaction.” I signed it and handed it to the young man who eagerly scratched out his signature. “Where are the keys to my new house?” he asked in a mocking tone of voice.  All eyes were upon us as I stepped back from the table, pulling the keys from pocket and dangling them before the excited new
homeowner.

“Now that we have entered into this binding contract, witnessed by all of your friends, I have decided upon the conditions you are obligated to adhere from this point forward. You may only live in the house for one hour a day. You will not use anything inside
of the home. You will obey me without question or resistance. I expect complete loyalty and admiration for this gift I bestow upon you. You will accept my commands and wishes with enthusiasm, no matter the nature. Your morals and principles shall be as mine. You will vote as I do, think as I do and do it with blind faith. These are my terms. Here are your keys.” I reached the keys forward and the young man looked at me dumbfounded.

“Are you out of your mind? Who would ever agree to those ridiculous terms?” the young man appeared irritated. “You did when
you signed this contract before reading it, understanding it and with the full knowledge that I would provide my conditions only
after you committed to the agreement.” The elderly man chuckled as his wife tried to restrain him. I was looking at a now silenced and bewildered group of people. “You can shove that stupid deal up your a** old man, I want no part of it” exclaimed the now infuriated young man. 'You have committed to the contract, as witnessed by all of your friends; you cannot get out of the deal unless I agree to it. I do not intend to let you free now that I have you ensnared. I am the power you agreed to. I am the one you blindly and
without thought chose to enslave yourself to. In short, I am your Master.” At this, the table of celebrating individuals became a unified group against the unfairness of the deal.

After a few moments of unrepeatable comments and slurs, I revealed my true intent. “What I did to you is what this administration and congress did to you with the health care legislation. I easily suckered you in and then revealed the real cost of the bargain. Your folly was in the belief that you can have something you did not earn; that you are not entitled to; that you willingly allowed someone else to think for you. Your failure to research, study and inform yourself permitted reason to escape you. You have entered into a trap from which you cannot flee. Your only chance of freedom is if your new Master gives it to you. A freedom that is given can also be taken away; therefore, it is not freedom.” With that, I tore up the napkin and placed it before the astonished young man. “This is the nature of your new health care legislation.”

I turned away to leave these few in thought and contemplation and was surprised by applause. The elderly gentleman, who was clearly entertained, shook my hand enthusiastically and said, “Thank you Sir, these kids don’t understand Liberty.” He refused to
allow me to pay my bill as he said, “You earned this one, it is an honor to pick up the tab.” I shook his hand in thanks, leaving the restaurant somewhat humbled, and sensing a glimmer of hope for my beloved country. Use reason.
  
Remember, four boxes keep us free:
the soap box,

the ballot box,
the jury box,
and the cartridge box.

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[Randall53]

That's just today's price. The thing for pre-existing conditions is being cut, because the fools ran out of money. How soon

do you think it will take to bankrupt the country with all those covered who aren't going to pay one single dime for their

coverage?

 

Tomorrow's price will likely be double. That's why the fools have the IRS in charge of collections.

 

Your coverage under Obamacare just went to Hell, and left you with the bill.

 

Don't forget the law of supply and demand. We've just seen this with ammo and firearms.  Wait until the demand kicks in to cover the Doctor shortage.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

The doctor shortage is already upon us. Maybe not you and I, but you and I will feel it toward the end of the year. I know

several, personally who are retiring and/ or retired because of this garbage. I know others who are so mad at the garbage

foisted upon them that they will do a John Galt.

 

This health care bill will be a tipping point for many at the end of the year when just enough of it kicks in.

[Sniper23]

As a healthcare professional, Obamacare is going to be a nightmare for me. Mark, I see several references from you regarding Atlas Shrugged. I've watched the 1st & 2nd movies but I cannot wait to get my hands on the back.

[RED333]

My money bets that health care wont last the end of the year, it will inpload.

The Goverment will step in, to "take care of us".

We will have Socialized medicine, I dont have time to wait at a doctors office for hours.

I will quite work, I will not let them tax me to death.

I will barter for what I need, plant the food I want, grow the meat I want.

I am sure the government will not like this, so be it.

Edited February 19, 2013 by RED333

[vontar]

yea but I was thinking they will just start recruiting doctors from Cuba soon.  They would probably come here and work cheaper.  I understand Cuba has some good doctors.

[sigmtnman]

As a healthcare professional, Obamacare is going to be a nightmare for me. Mark, I see several references from you regarding Atlas Shrugged. I've watched the 1st & 2nd movies but I cannot wait to get my hands on the back.

 

IMO, the movie was horrible capared to the book.

[sigmtnman]

When my portion and my employer's portion are added together, it is what the insurance for my family of three cost for 2012.

 

same here.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

The movie was okay to me, but nothing compared to the book. That book would be a nightmare for production.

Hollywood butchers anything it can get its hands on. At least these guys made an attempt.

 

As a healthcare professional, Obamacare is going to be a nightmare for me. Mark, I see several references from you regarding Atlas Shrugged. I've watched the 1st & 2nd movies but I cannot wait to get my hands on the back.

It won't just be a nightmare. It will eventually kill healthcare. After a while we will have the single payer system like

England and Canada. They currently have the worst systems in the world. Reduce everything to the ridiculous and

see what happens. That's all socialism accomplishes. Until it is at the point of a gun. Then it doesn't exist, but is

called communism.

[sigmtnman]

The movie was okay to me, but nothing compared to the book. That book would be a nightmare for production.

Hollywood butchers anything it can get its hands on. At least these guys made an attempt.

 

It won't just be a nightmare. It will eventually kill healthcare. After a while we will have the single payer system like

England and Canada. They currently have the worst systems in the world. Reduce everything to the ridiculous and

see what happens. That's all socialism accomplishes. Until it is at the point of a gun. Then it doesn't exist, but is

called communism.

 

The first one dissapointed me so much, I could not bring myself to watch the second one.  I appreciate what they tried to do by changing the time setting, but I felt it took away from it.

[Sniper23]

I watched the movie and then did some research and found that I'd like the book so much more. As you all have stated, there was just too much that Hollywood changed. However, it was good enough to cause me to go buy the book. Now I'm just waiting for it to arrive!

As far as healthcare goes, we'll just have to keep up the good fight against Obamacare.

[mcurrier]

The Fountainhead was really good with Gary Cooper.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

That's a classic. I loved it.

[mav]

I liked the first movie, but the second seemed like a made for tv movie.  The actors they chose for the second film seemed really out of place.