Parents required to notify school officials of gun ownership.

[Raoul]

How about an admonition to defy gravity while performing a sex act on a traveling circular pastry?

[LagerHead]

I must have missed the part where the school system was given police powers. It's about time we tell our politicians who "believe in the 2nd Amendment" - as if its existence is open for debate or something - to kiss our collective asses.

[charlessummers]

I quit reading when I got to the part about the "fine up to $100.00". :rofl:

[E4 No More]

"I am not trying to take away the guns rights of any parents or any other citizens. I believe in the Second Amendment,"

 

But it's ok to take away privacy rights, huh?

[TMF]

[quote name="charlessummers" post="895815" timestamp="1359141563"]I quit reading when I got to the part about the "fine up to $100.00". :rofl:[/quote] Ya, I'd wait to be held in contempt of court. I'd take a criminal record before I'd pay such a fine.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I'm really curious as to what decision it drives if the school district knows that you own guns. What are they supposed to do with that information to mitigate a crime? Really curious to know that. I had no idea they tolerated this type of nonsense in Missouri.

Sen. Claire McCaskill She's full of the same type of nonsense, just isn't a member of the teacher's union, like that other one probably is.

Those folks in MO kinda get confused in their politics.

[10-Ring]

This idea is so lousy even the majority of the Huffington Post readers are talking about how silly it is.

[mikegideon]

This idea is so lousy even the majority of the Huffington Post readers are talking about how silly it is.

 

Pretty bad if it doesn't even pass the commie sniff test. :)

[jphillips63]

[quote name="TMF" post="895592" timestamp="1359126799"]I mean, I fully support legislation which stiffens the penalty for criminally negligent parents who don't secure their firearms and let their thug kids use them for crime. .[/quote] Ok now you saying that a parent is negligent if they don't secure there firearms in a safe or apply some sort of lock on them if they have kids in the home? It's a bit funny if this is the case then I must of been a bad parent and so were my parents. Growing up there were firearms all over the home and loaded. I never took one or even touched them nor did my kid when I was raising him. I find that comment a bit harsh and biased and out of line for parents who have kids and firearms in the home.

[Raoul]

Ok now you saying that a parent is negligent if they don't secure there firearms in a safe or apply some sort of lock on them if they have kids in the home? It's a bit funny if this is the case then I must of been a bad parent and so were my parents. Growing up there were firearms all over the home and loaded. I never took one or even touched them nor did my kid when I was raising him. I find that comment a bit harsh and biased and out of line for parents who have kids and firearms in the home.

I would say this. If there are unsecured loaded firearms in the house with children, and no adult supervision, I believe that's irresponsible parenting. I'm glad you were a bright kid and didn't do something stupid. However that's no way to treat children. Children cannot be trusted, they are not adults and do not always make rational decisions.

[Guest CCI]

I would say this. If there are unsecured loaded firearms in the house with children, and no adult supervision, I believe that's irresponsible parenting. I'm glad you were a bright kid and didn't do something stupid. However that's no way to treat children. Children cannot be trusted, they are not adults and do not always make rational decisions.

I agree! When the parents are away, curiosity will get the best of them!

 

[jphillips63]

You instill in them just as I was taught and I taught my son they are not toys and they are very dangerous. It's about parenting and if your kids arent disciplined correctly then you fail as a parent. Yes kids are curious but they also have fear of punishment and what can happen if they are shown properly what damage a firearm can do.

[Rowdy]

You instill in them just as I was taught and I taught my son they are not toys and they are very dangerous. It's about parenting and if your kids arent disciplined correctly then you fail as a parent. Yes kids are curious but they also have fear of punishment and what can happen if they are shown properly what damage a firearm can do.

What about other children that come into your home? They may not have been taught the things you taught your children.

[LagerHead]

Ya, I'd wait to be held in contempt of court. I'd take a criminal record before I'd pay such a fine.

 

I don't believe this would ever even get to court. The school system doesn't have the power to assess fines, with the possible exception of lost books. In that case all they can really do is withhold a report card or something. 

 

You instill in them just as I was taught and I taught my son they are not toys and they are very dangerous. It's about parenting and if your kids arent disciplined correctly then you fail as a parent. Yes kids are curious but they also have fear of punishment and what can happen if they are shown properly what damage a firearm can do.

 

This is a pretty broad blanket statement. Some kids just don't listen. My dad was a pretty authoritarian guy and my brother still spent 8 years in prison. It certainly wasn't my dad's fault. It was 100,000% my brother's. My brother wouldn't have shot himself if he found a loaded gun, but he sure might have stolen it. 

[TMF]

Ok now you saying that a parent is negligent if they don't secure there firearms in a safe or apply some sort of lock on them if they have kids in the home? It's a bit funny if this is the case then I must of been a bad parent and so were my parents. Growing up there were firearms all over the home and loaded. I never took one or even touched them nor did my kid when I was raising him. I find that comment a bit harsh and biased and out of line for parents who have kids and firearms in the home.

If you leave a firearm out and your kid ignores it, good for you. If you leave a firearm out and your kid shoots himself, someone else or uses it in a crime you are CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT.

It's not out of line. Kids shoot each other and themselves all the time with firearms that their dumbass parents leave out because they don't think their kids are capable of misbehaving. It happened in Clarksville half a dozen times just last year. Parents were charged, as they should be, and I hope their kids were taken away (the ones that survived) and the parents lost their right to own a firearm.

I own several dozen firearms and have two children. They listen to me, mostly. I don't want to find out the hard way what rules they decide not to follow, so I take measures to prevent them from accessing dangerous things. Firearms are on that list. It is called responsible parenting.

I had good parents and was raised in a relatively strict household. I was told not to drink, smoke pot or have sex. My high school years were defined by those three actions. Kids don't listen sometimes. Responsible parents aren't going to bet their child's life on how well they listen. Edited January 26, 2013 by TMF

[TMF]

[quote name="LagerHead" post="896542" timestamp="1359213321"]I don't believe this would ever even get to court. The school system doesn't have the power to assess fines, with the possible exception of lost books. In that case all they can really do is withhold a report card or something. [/quote] I assumed their course of action would be to notify law enforcement of lack of compliance. Similar to places that have truancy laws which parents can be fined or jailed for.

[TMF]

[quote name="Raoul" post="896095" timestamp="1359158375"]I would say this. If there are unsecured loaded firearms in the house with children, and no adult supervision, I believe that's irresponsible parenting. I'm glad you were a bright kid and didn't do something stupid. However that's no way to treat children. Children cannot be trusted, they are not adults and do not always make rational decisions.[/quote] He turned out fine, so it must be okay. All these stories of kids accidentally shooting themselves and other kids is just made up propaganda. It has never happened before, ever.

[battleop]

If you leave a firearm out and your kid ignores it, good for you. If you leave a firearm out and your kid shoots himself, someone else or uses it in a crime you are CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT.

It's not out of line. Kids shoot each other and themselves all the time with firearms that their dumbass parents leave out because they don't think their kids are capable of misbehaving. It happened in Clarksville half a dozen times just last year. Parents were charged, as they should be, and I hope their kids were taken away (the ones that survived) and the parents lost their right to own a firearm.

I own several dozen firearms and have two children. They listen to me, mostly. I don't want to find out the hard way what rules they decide not to follow, so I take measures to prevent them from accessing dangerous things. Firearms are on that list. It is called responsible parenting.

I had good parents and was raised in a relatively strict household. I was told not to drink, smoke pot or have sex. My high school years were defined by those three actions. Kids don't listen sometimes. Responsible parents aren't going to bet their child's life on how well they listen.

 

 

I agree 100%.   Parents must be proactive in preventing accidental deaths. I know of at least two children in the last 6-8 months in this area who were killed by completely irresponsible adults.  In both cases a loaded, chambered, gun was left where a child (under 4) was able pick up the gun and shoot them selves.   Had these adults been responsible these children would still be alive.    The sad thing is that neither adult responsible for their gun were charged in these deaths as they should be.

[Randall53]

[quote name="KJ48" post="895761" timestamp="1359138941"]Dont worry, I'm sure the ACLU will be all over it lol.[/quote] You know, the ACLU is against the individual right of arms possession and was not in agreement with the recent Supreme Court decisions at all. They'll be right on board with this bill. The ACLU is against any firearms in schools or police in schools stating concerns of civil liberties of minorities: "We fear that neutral sounding safety policies, such as putting more cops in school will lead to the over-incarceration of school-age children, especially students of color and students with disabilities, who are disproportionately arrested and prosecuted for issues that would normally be handled by school administrators when law enforcement is introduced into schools.” In striking down Washington D.C.'s handgun ban by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court's decision in D.C, theACLU stated it disagrees with the Supreme Court's conclusion about the nature of the right protected by the Second Amendment. THEN they say: "However, particular federal or state laws on licensing, registration, prohibition, or other regulation of the manufacture, shipment, sale, purchase or possession of guns may raise civil liberties questions." Hard to figure that bunch out.