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The media and our opponents love the term assault weapon because it is, by its' very nature, inflammatory. I think we need to stop playing into their hands and change to more accurate terms. I've never owned an assault weapon. I own hunting weapons, sporting weapons and defense weapons (and would like some collectible weapons) but not one assault weapon.

 

When leaving comments at news and social networking sites, and especially when contacting our people in congress, start refering to your defensive weapon (or sporting, or hunting or collectible weapon as the case may be). Educate them on how your weapons don't commit assaults they protect and provide enjoyment. As long as we allow them to be mis-labeled, they'll remain the evil scarry tools of mass murderers to the uninformed public.

 

I'll put away the soap box for now.

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I told a moron the other day that I didn't have an AR-15, I had a 2A-15, which is totally different... I added that it was all good with either because I was part of the state militia. She felt safer. Lol
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To control the dialogue you must first control the language. That has been, and still is the liberal/socialist method. They have forced political correctness on us and have all but forced us to refer to our firearms as assault weapons. I too have begun using other terms. I doubt it will have any more effect than a drop of water in the ocean but I have to do my part. 

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A good point to be made here. The term 'assault weapon' is a bunch of hooey to begin with.

 

I personally don't like to refer to guns as weapons, except among other gun guys. That has an immediate negative connotation. I prefer calling it what it is - a gun, a rifle, a shotgun, a pistol, etc.. To me, a gun is essentially a tool first - a tool for bringing food on the table, a tool for the purpose of defense, or even a tool for sport.

 

In truth, though, to me, weapon doesn't have a negative connotation either. Whether it's a Scottish longsword or a Kentucky longrifle, it's a tool for survival.

 

The 'assault' term, of course, comes from the military term assault rifle, which is valid - if we're talking about select-fire rifles firing an intermediate cartridge.

 

If one should attach an extra descriptive to their tool, it should be something more... true. And less "hey-let's-play-right-into-the-media's-hands"-y. "Sporting rifle" sounds much less intimidating and evil than "ASSAULT WEAPON". "Hunting rifle" can even describe an AR-15, if that is the purpose you use it for...

 

Then again, if you do have an AR-15 or some other such type of gun, and you do plan on using it to assault people - well, go ahead. Call it an assault rifle/weapon. You're using it to assault somebody, after all! I happen to have a handy assault walking stick. Of course, assault comes first...

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The term wasn’t applied by anti-gun people it was applied by pro-gun people that claimed to have one. It quickly took off with the civilian versions of the AK and AR. We did this, until of course the “assault weapons ban” came along. All of a sudden no one had one.

Arguing they aren’t calling it the right name doesn’t make sense. The people that will be making the laws know the difference and if they don’t the gun experts that are going to be tapped to help them write the proposed legislation will. Feinstein might not have experts guiding her, but you can bet Obama’s boys do.

Magazine, clip…. Sure using the wrong name makes you appear a novice; but it won’t impact any legislation.

With all due respect….put that energy you are using being mad about this into something that will matter. biggrin.gif

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I haven't noticed that one, before.

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I believe I read on this board someone called an AR an American Rifle.

 

My AR (American Rifle) was made right here in TN.

 

It is not evil black either.

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I'll go one further. I do not own a weapon. I own rifles, shotguns, pistols, and revolvers.

 

 

We own thousands of weapons from shoe strings to coffee creamer

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The term wasn’t applied by anti-gun people it was applied by pro-gun people that claimed to have one. It quickly took off with the civilian versions of the AK and AR. We did this, until of course the “assault weapons ban” came along. All of a sudden no one had one.

Arguing they aren’t calling it the right name doesn’t make sense. The people that will be making the laws know the difference and if they don’t the gun experts that are going to be tapped to help them write the proposed legislation will. Feinstein might not have experts guiding her, but you can bet Obama’s boys do.

Magazine, clip…. Sure using the wrong name makes you appear a novice; but it won’t impact any legislation.

With all due respect….put that energy you are using being mad about this into something that will matter. biggrin.gif

 

Gee, I didn't know I was angry.

 

I'm not arguing that "they aren’t calling it the right name", I'm saying they, (the media), purposely use a word that is incendiary and evokes a negative emotional response in the masses. If we use the term ourselves, we feed right into their agenda so it becomes self-defeating to use it when talking to politicians, or anyone else. The idea is to change the hearts and minds of some members of the public by not portraying guns as evil scary things. If you think that won't matter, simply don't do it.

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I know some of you might not agree but I don't have a problem with the term assault rifle, even though technically that's not the true definition. I think calling them modern sporting rifles is disingenuous. Maybe theyre not select fire but I own my rifles for 2 primary reasons. To defend myself and my family and to resist foreign and domestic enemies (and shooting is fun too). The moment I have to do those things I am in an offensive posture despite its defensive position. And let's not be naive to think that they don't have a high rate of fire even though they are semiautomatic.
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I love people who tell me AR stands for Assault Rifle.  

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They are only assault weapons when civilians own them.  When some government agency is involved they are high-powered semiautomatic rifles....http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/23/fontana-calif-schools-get_n_2535373.html

 

BTW, this is not the first example in the last month of this type of selective vocabulary by the media.

I"m glad you posted that, I almost forgot about. I heard that on the radio today. Fontana Schools bought "high powered semi-automatic rifles" ask my brother wonder what those were? lol. That was the term the media used before their newest term.

Oh yea, if didn't know they were 6940 Colts.oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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The term wasn’t applied by anti-gun people it was applied by pro-gun people that claimed to have one. It quickly took off with the civilian versions of the AK and AR. We did this, until of course the “assault weapons ban” came along. All of a sudden no one had one.

Arguing they aren’t calling it the right name doesn’t make sense. The people that will be making the laws know the difference and if they don’t the gun experts that are going to be tapped to help them write the proposed legislation will. Feinstein might not have experts guiding her, but you can bet Obama’s boys do.

Magazine, clip…. Sure using the wrong name makes you appear a novice; but it won’t impact any legislation.

With all due respect….put that energy you are using being mad about this into something that will matter. biggrin.gif


Dave the term "assault rifle" had a singular military definition before the original "assault weapon ban" campaign started. It was a designed and purposed tactic to redefine things the left didn't like or were targeting with terms of negative connotation. It want just guns either. Remember how all those evil "suv's" were running over people all the time during the 90's? How the term "big oil" and "big tobacco" became the boogey men of the last 2 decades.
Eric Holder made it perfectly clear that their tactic was and has been to change the culture around the 2nd amendment. This is the very thing Obama means when he talks of fundamentally changing the fabric of America.
To dismiss it as inconsequential or small is to be naive. This is why republicans become rhinos in Washington. Once the discussion is defined by the other side it can only be a win win for them.
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It sure wont score us any points but I own DOA (Defense of Assault) weapons.
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Let;s just call them guns already.  It really doesn't matter what kind or type they are for this discussion, now or into the future.

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