Obama to deploy his re-election machine

[JR2ATN]

Gonna drum up his army of low-info voting useful idiots it seems...

 

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/17/Obama-admin-permanent-campaign?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Big+Government%29

[Guest macmonkey]

At least we've got a head start on him.

[Chief07]

The organizer in chief never left campaign mode. That stunt with the children was as low as I've seen.

Stalin and Hitler did the same stunt. Right before they disarmed the people and sent them off to camps and slaughtered them.

History repeats itself.

If we let it.

[greenego]

So who foot the bill for all this? :shrug:

NRA will be asking for money to fight. 

Edited January 18, 2013 by greenego

[Oh Shoot]

Support for universal background checks is way up there now. That one is already won, methinks.

 

- OS

Edited January 18, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[kieefer]

Universal background checks?

 

I don't think I would even follow this law. It would have to be a sting operation to catch me.

 

How about a show of hands?

From one CCP holder to another, I have a gun for sell, meet me at so n' so, bring cash. We'll make it a 2012 date on the bill of sale.

 

Fck'em

[Oh Shoot]

I don't think I would even follow this law. It would have to be a sting operation to catch me...

 
Oh, I imagine there will be plenty of stingers hired.
 
Lots of BATF temps, minimum wage plus a bonus for each completed sale. It would be a "job creation program", and what good progressive would fault that?

 

 

...From one CCP holder to another, I have a gun for sell, meet me at so n' so, bring cash. We'll make it a 2012 date on the bill of sale.

Yep, if I was looking for an easy bust, I'd take you up on that in a second.
 
- OS

Edited January 18, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[Wingshooter]

The problem with the universal background check is that it IS a registration. Any gun produced or transferred after this law might pass is "attached" to it's owner by way of the background check. You can sell one without complying, but it will forever be the property (legally) of the person who did the last background check on it. Guns in possession before any such law would be the exception until someone transfers it through an FFL. Then it would be in the system, too. Sucks, and it must be defeated

 

 

Edit: I'm all for taking steps to make sure criminals don't get guns. I just don't think it's the gov'ts business to know what law-abiding citizens have or don't have. Therefore, this proposal steps on my toes.

Edited January 18, 2013 by Batman

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Support for universal background checks is way up there now. That one is already won, methinks.

 

- OS

So, have the Republicans in the House caved on that? If you're drawing that from opinion polls, Mac, I wouldn't call it, yet.

[Oh Shoot]

So, have the Republicans in the House caved on that? If you're drawing that from opinion polls, Mac, I wouldn't call it, yet.

 

Still predicting they will, have all along, as you know.

 

Right now, though, it looks like it's going to be damn near as much of a lift to get anything out of the Senate to get anything at all rolling.

 

- OS

[TMF]

The problem with the universal background check is that it IS a registration. Any gun produced or transferred after this law might pass is "attached" to it's owner by way of the background check. You can sell one without complying, but it will forever be the property (legally) of the person who did the last background check on it. Guns in possession before any such law would be the exception until someone transfers it through an FFL. Then it would be in the system, too. Sucks, and it must be defeated

 

 

Edit: I'm all for taking steps to make sure criminals don't get guns. I just don't think it's the gov'ts business to know what law-abiding citizens have or don't have. Therefore, this proposal steps on my toes.

 

 

Considering that there is a law which forces NICS to destroy any information on an individual getting the background check I think this would be a hard task to acheive.  If I am forced to go to an FFL to do a transfer there is still the problem of the ATF tracking down where that transfer even took place.  Since many of my firearms were purchased online and shipped, I have a record at the FFL I picked them up from, but how is the ATF going to know where to look?  I guess the only way would be to track the chain of custody from the manufacturer, but one break in that chain and they are lost. 

[Oh Shoot]

....I guess the only way would be to track the chain of custody from the manufacturer, but one break in that chain and they are lost. 

 

 Yup. That's the way it's done now. Manufacturer -> distributer -> FFL. Only works for sure with the first owner. That's why if we do indeed have to eat the end to private sales, it's going to be damn difficult to not have a registry go along with it.

 

Then again, they're pretty stupid up there, maybe they won't really notice or care, 'cause the only reason something may come out of there is some "feel good" legislation to bow to public perception, nothing that will be actually effective.

 

- OS

[K191145]

Universal background checks?

 

I don't think I would even follow this law. It would have to be a sting operation to catch me.

 

How about a show of hands?

From one CCP holder to another, I have a gun for sell, meet me at so n' so, bring cash. We'll make it a 2012 date on the bill of sale.

 

Fck'em

 

Only to someone you know, not a total stranger. I have already willed, (not on any paper) what I have to a couple of family members and one friend. A certain person knows if anything ever happens to me what to do and there wont be any paper work or background check.

[Chief07]

Support for universal background checks is way up there now. That one is already won, methinks.

 

- OS

I don't believe the phony polls. Wingnut ears polls the people who give him the answer he wants.

The propaganda coming from this White house is disgusting

He lies like a dog..

[Oh Shoot]

I don't believe the phony polls. ...

 

Find a poll you believe in that shows differently.

 

Don't believe Gallup either? They sure pegged last election, unlike whatever more "fair" ones you might have believed.

 

Here's a bunch of them:

 

http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm

 

- OS

Edited January 19, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[Oh Shoot]

sorry, double tap

Edited January 19, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[mcurrier]

 


Oh, I imagine there will be plenty of stingers hired.
 
Lots of BATF temps, minimum wage plus a bonus for each completed sale. It would be a "job creation program", and what good progressive would fault that?
 
 


Yep, if I was looking for an easy bust, I'd take you up on that in a second.
 
- OS

1957 movie The Long Hot Summer starring Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward -

Newman: And what happens if a Federal man comes along?

Townie #1: oh, they been known to come along. Also been known to disappear...

Townie #2: Not entirely...

Townie #1: No, not entirely. Every now and then someone might find a shoe...or a tie...