Obama speech

[NoBanStan]

It looked like to me most of the EO were just cleaning up laws already on the table. Most of the EO's just clarify the law that is already in place.

That's basically all it is. He had to be seen publicly doing SOMETHING...

 

now we just wait and see what congress has to say about the AWB.

[Mike.357]

I will give him this credit. He did use the word magazines and did not say clip

[Smokin45]

Do As I Say Not What I Do!!!

[charlessummers]

What's the difference between universal background checks and requiring voters to have a photo id? Aren't both a burdon?

[NoBanStan]

I will give him this credit. He did use the word magazines and did not say clip

I'm sure that's what it said on the teleprompter :)

[maroonandwhite]

 
This makes me wonder what's coming down the pipe as there's really no reason to remind FFLs on how to run background checks.  The key words here being "for private sellers".

 

 

 

 

 

No good can come that.  He's not going to nominate someone who agrees with the rest of us

I noticed that too. Maybe something to note that this was a private transaction between individuals. Don't know what purpose that would serve but I guess none of his other ideas make sense either.

[Larkin]

Good point David about the Private Sellers comment.  He said 40% of guns were sold this way...If you have no way to track private gun sales, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER?

[maroonandwhite]

Good point David about the Private Sellers comment.  He said 40% of guns were sold this way...If you have no way to track private gun sales, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER?

The gov has highly trained "guessers" is my bet.

[Guest bkelm18]

[quote name="Larkin" post="886764" timestamp="1358357569"]Good point David about the Private Sellers comment.  He said 40% of guns were sold this way...If you have no way to track private gun sales, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER?[/quote] It's called estimating. :) People go to college for many years just to be able to pull numbers out of their ass.

[johnboy]

Good point David about the Private Sellers comment.  He said 40% of guns were sold this way...If you have no way to track private gun sales, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER?

He made it up, like the 900 people that have died in the past month since sandy hook.

[Independent_shooter]

Good point David about the Private Sellers comment.  He said 40% of guns were sold this way...If you have no way to track private gun sales, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER?

Since when did facts get in the way of a good soundbite :pleased:

[Mechanic_X]

"....background checks on private sellers."

This will lead to registration. Maybe the most worrisome point for me.

Otherwise mostly fluff.

[Jonnin]

Good point David about the Private Sellers comment.  He said 40% of guns were sold this way...If you have no way to track private gun sales, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER?

brady said so.

[Larkin]

How about the "Even Ronald Reagan, RONALD REAGAN (You remember him, the conservative's savior right?), supported a gun ban.  See, I'm just like Ronald Reagan! He and I were best buds and we loved gun control!

[UncleJak]

It's called estimating. :) People go to college for many years just to be able to pull numbers out of their ass.

I can do this without using my degree. :)

[rcrespo106]

This one is interesting. Does this mean he wants an armed guard in every school?

 

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

[NoBanStan]

This one is interesting. Does this mean he wants an armed guard in every school?

 

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

He said he was going to give schools the option to have an RSO.

[Larkin]

This one is interesting. Does this mean he wants an armed guard in every school?

 

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

 

remember , there were originally 19 points.  Point #18 is what's called "throwing a bone" my friend.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

He can't force a private buyer and seller of a weapon to go to some FFL and get a background check, well unless you

fall for it.

His nomination for ATF Director will be a piece of work. I just can't wait. He's just pushing things underground. His director

will come out with a letter to include all weapons to be included in the NFA in a little while. I'll betcha!

[johnboy]

He said "If they want officers".

[TripleDigitRide]

I was scrambling to make a doctor appointment for my daughter during the speech, so I only saw the bullet points on the news website.

Am I understanding correctly that he did NOT put in place another AWB or ban high-capacity magazines?

[TNcitizen22]

In general I feel most of it is fluff.  I still don't believe the meat and potatoes of the AWB can pass.  Overall I am not all that upset about these EO's initially, what comes from them in time may be a different story however.

[rcrespo106]

He can't force a private buyer and seller of a weapon to go to some FFL and get a background check, well unless you

fall for it.

His nomination for ATF Director will be a piece of work. I just can't wait. He's just pushing things underground. His director

will come out with a letter to include all weapons to be included in the NFA in a little while. I'll betcha!

Unless they do national gun registration or even gun registration at a state level I don't see how this could be enforced. 

[timcalhoun]

The new ATF director scares the Heck out of me.....

[gjohnsoniv]

If he appoints a new ATF director it's going to be someone like Feinstein, and we all know how well that will turn out.