Anyone have any experience with an Ingram Mac 10?

[GoneBallistic]

I haven't had any experience with these weapons but I was looking at a couple of them on Gunbroker and there is a huge difference in prices for whatever reason. I know a couple of them are obviously automatic but I don't get the differences in the others.

 

What are the perks of open vs. closed bolt? Are all the open bolt models automatic?

 

What is the general consensus on these guns? Worth the money? Reliable?

 

Thanks in advance guys.

[Guest drv2fst]

AFAIK All the Full Automatics are open bolt and all the Semi's are closed bolt.  I used to own a Full Automatic MAC 10 in .45 but sold it about a year ago.  Mine was VERY reliable with good mags.  The Mac 10's use pretty heavy duty mags so most of them are pretty good.

 

Only Cons:

Very heavy

Poor Ergonomics

 

Pro's:

very cool

fun to shoot full auto

[~48_South~]

 Not all of the open bolts are FA,but all of the FA's are open bolt. They stopped manufacturing the open bolt semi's some time ago due to "How easy it is to convert to FA" or atleast thats the way I understand it. In no way would I spend extra on a open bolt over the closed,basically it is a huge pistol that is clunky and the sights suck, you are way better off spending the money on a modern handgun Glock,Sig or whatever. It looks cool but thats really it,unless its one of the FA models I wouldnt mess with it at all and even the FA you will need to get you a Lage upper to throw on it which will cost you another 600+ and I had several thousand to put towards a FA it would go to a UZI or AC556.

[Dolomite_supafly]

Some of the semi auto's have, what they call, trigger slap. When they took the guns and converted them into semi auto after the 1986 ban the mechanism they used caused trigger slap. The trigger is forceably reset with you still applying pressure to the trigger. After a few magazines it feels like a firecracker went off between your fingers. People would add a piece of rubber hose to dampen it but it was still kind of painful.

 

If you go to buy one do this. Pull the trigger as hard as you can the rack the bolt. If the trigger moves your finger forward then it is a trigger slap gun.

 

Because they are blowback they are going to be reliable. And mine was reasoably accurate. But they are big, heavy and unhandy.

 

Anything where there is a finite amount is worth it. These will continue to go up in price.

 

Dolomite

[Guest drv2fst]

I don't think you actually need the Lage upper on .45 Mac 10's.  I had one and used it just fine with and without.  The Lage products are very nice and needed on the 9mm Mac 11.   But the .45 Mac 10 is heavy enough to be controllable on it's own.  I used a long heavy suppressor most of the time and it helped.  The Lage adds extra weight to the Mac 10 that it doesn't really need.  That being said, a Lage is always an improvement.

 

These guns are cool but as others have said, really large, heavy and unhandy.

[jdw174]

The H&K MP5 fires from a closed bolt which is one reason they're as accurate as they are.  I've fired the MAC10, along with Thompsons, Reisings, Berettas, et al, and when you pull the trigger on one that fires from an open bolt you've got  that pause while waiting for the bolt to drive home and fire.  Not the most accurate way to shoot, but for "Spraying and praying", it works fine.

[GoneBallistic]

What would be a reasonable price for one? Closed and open bolt models?

[Magiccarpetrides]

I have an M11 SMG with a Lage upper...its awesome.  If you find a good one buy it and convert it...definitely a fun toy...i wouldnt bother with semi-auto...i would rather have a quality pistol if thats all im doing.

[Dolomite_supafly]

If there is one reason to have one this is it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xc5GcQLB0I

 

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zqkzj2r4nA

 

Dolomite

[frankmako]

i played around with one many mango season ago.  fun to shoot.  eats up lots of ammo fast. 

[GoneBallistic]

Dolomite that is insane! Any opinions on a fair price? As much as I would love to have the rock n' roll edition, I really don't want to get into class 3 right now so I'll be going after a semi-auto version.