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Found my next AR! Now just need a loan to pay for it....


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This is a rough neighborhood to try and get a loan. :pleased:


I know but I figured we can all chip in and pay for it. I'll keep it at my house at first but we can treat it like a time-share condo. Each investor can put in a bid for the week they want it.....:-)
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Titanium isn't too incredibly difficult to machine.  Not sure why there is a $95k price tag .... Surprised other companies haven't come out with Titanium lowers yet?


I guess a $95k price is a marketing tool. Gets more attention than simply saying, " AR-15 with titanium parts".
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I guess a $95k price is a marketing tool. Gets more attention than simply saying, " AR-15 with titanium parts".

 

Very true ....

 

What would the cost be for a billet of titanium the size needed for machining a lower and Upper?

 

http://www.titaniumjoe.com/

 

I've actually placed a couple orders from the site above.  Higher than wholesale pricing shops can get, but when you don't need TON's of it, it works :)

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What would the cost be for a billet of titanium the size needed for machining a lower and Upper?

 

 

Very true ....

 

 

http://www.titaniumjoe.com/

 

I've actually placed a couple orders from the site above.  Higher than wholesale pricing shops can get, but when you don't need TON's of it, it works :)

 

 

Based on that site, you're looking at $1500-ish for the billet.  While machining titanium isn't especially hard, it is very, VERY slow.  To fully machine an AR receiver from a billet would take days.  Say 40 hrs @ $100/hr... $4000 in machine time.  You'd probably burn up $1000+ in end-mills.  Assuming you've already got the various jigs and gauges necessary, it would be very expensive.  $8000 easy.  $10,000 if you wanted to make money.

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[quote name="peejman" post="878278" timestamp="1357592715"]Based on that site, you're looking at $1500-ish for the billet.  While machining titanium isn't especially hard, it is very, VERY slow.  To fully machine an AR receiver from a billet would take days.  Say 40 hrs @ $100/hr... $4000 in machine time.  You'd probably burn up $1000+ in end-mills.  Assuming you've already got the various jigs and gauges necessary, it would be very expensive.  $8000 easy.  $10,000 if you wanted to make money.[/quote] Plus the charging handle, BCG, gas block, comp, buffer tube and rail system are titanium as well. Those take machine time as well.
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Owning a machine shop myself, I don't see how manufacturers make guns as cheap as they do. Which is the same reason gunsmiths don't make a decent living. Titanium sucks to machine by the way.

 

It does suck, plus you go through quite a bit of tooling, but it wouldn't cost $95k to do it ...

 

I think there's a difference between a machine shop, and a huge gun manufacturer.  They likely have 100+ Mori's set up running non stop parts. 

 

If you take a look at a small(er) gun manufacturer like Wilson Combat, they end up having to charge a premium.  Smaller, but quite a bit easier to keep an eye on QC.

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