.17 Win SuperMag!

[R_Bert]

Just found my new rimfire tree-rat gun for hunting on WMAs during small game season.

 

I knew someone would come up with a ball-buster rimfire  - 250 yard gun, 0.5 MOA, 3000+ fps.

 

http://www.petersenshunting.com/2013/01/02/introducing-the-new-17-winchester-super-magnum/#ixzz2Gv6GPd22  

 

Addresses the issue of not being able to have a more powerful rifle for yotes during TWRA SG season.

Edited January 3, 2013 by R_Bert

[Caster]

I don't get it? I'm seeing a rim fire version of the .17 Remington only I can't reload it.

[mikegideon]

I want a 30-06 necked down to .17. :)

[Caster]

[quote name="mikegideon" post="875219" timestamp="1357235578"]I want a 30-06 necked down to .17. :)[/quote] That's for wimps. How about a 50 BMG necked down to 17? http://www.ammo-one.com/Wildcat50to17.html

[gnmwilliams]

That's for wimps. How about a 50 BMG necked down to 17? http://www.ammo-one.com/Wildcat50to17.html

That's fantastic! You could literally say that cartridge is the "bomb".

[gnmwilliams]

That's fantastic! You could literally say that cartridge is the "bomb". Getting that bullet down the barrel would be like me trying to squeeze into a pair of Levis!

Edited January 3, 2013 by gnmwilliams

[mikegideon]

That's fantastic! You could literally say that cartridge is the "bomb".

 

Yep. You could singe the nut hair off a deer at 300 yards without a projectile.

[MacGyver]

Maybe other people's experience is different, but I can't see this as a squirrel gun. A great coyote gun for small game season like the OP suggested, but not squirrels.

A 17HMR is explosive enough on squirrels. I can't imagine this thing leaving anything other than a red spot where a squirrel used to be.

Neat cartridge, though. I've always had a soft spot for the .17 Remington Fireball.

[mikegideon]

Yep. You better do a head shot with a .17 HMR if you want to preserve the meat, at least with VMax bullets. I have some spitzer hollow points for mine as well. Not sure if they change the game any.

[R_Bert]

I don't get it? I'm seeing a rim fire version of the .17 Remington only I can't reload it.

 

That's pretty much it.

 

Not really interested in squirrel hunting with it, but annoyed that I cannot coyote hunt with a decent gun (especially on WMAs) except during BG season.

 

So, the 17 WRSM being a rimfire, you can take it on WMAs during small game season (and is a bit better for yote).  What I really want to see is a rim-fire .243 Win 25-06, or 30-06

 

and...what I really, really want to see, is caliber restrictions lifted for coyote hunting, and center-fire restrictions lifted for SG hunting.

 

But, for now, the caliber shows a trend towards larger rimfires, and puts a kink in TWRA's "logic", as the performance between rimfire and centerfire continues to overlap.

Edited January 3, 2013 by R_Bert

[MacGyver]

Within a proper distance window, I'd have exactly zero issues going after a coyote with one of these.  They're little bullets, but I've never seen a coyote take more than a couple of steps even after being hit with a .17HMR.

[R_Bert]

Within a proper distance window, I'd have exactly zero issues going after a coyote with one of these.  They're little bullets, but I've never seen a coyote take more than a couple of steps even after being hit with a .17HMR.

 

True, but the little  rimfire guns preclude the 300+ yd shots that I would otherwise easily consider. 

 

(some of us deaf, noisy, half-crippled old goats never get much closer than that)

Edited January 3, 2013 by R_Bert

[jdw174]

That's for wimps. How about a 50 BMG necked down to 17? http://www.ammo-one.com/Wildcat50to17.html

 

Way back when, P.O. Ackley actually came up with a 50 BMG necked down to .22.  He named it the .22 Earingeshplittinloudenboomer (no joke).  If I remember, velocities were somewhere in the stratosphere (somewhere around 6000fps).  Bullets were hand turned because nothing available could stand up to the velocity readings without coming apart.