Los Angeles to offer groceries for guns???

[GoneBallistic]

Apparently in LA you can turn in any gun and get a $100 grocery gift card. And if you turn in an automatic you can REALLY cash in at...wait for it...$200!!!!! What a deal right!?! The disgusting thing is that people actually do it. They got 1700 guns this way last May. I think a couple of us need to go to California to buy some guns from these idiots!!!

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/26/los-angeles-offers-groceries-for-guns-in-annual-buyback/

Edited December 26, 2012 by GoneBallistic

[npgunner]

I'm gonna sit across the street and offer $200 / $300 cash money for the same thing the government gives less in gift cards for!

[xRUSTYx]

Private sales aren't legal in Cali I don't believe.

 

You try & do this, and you'd be going to prison unfortunately :( 

 

All guns (at least in my understanding) purchased have to go through the "Cool Off" period of 3/5/10 days (something to that extent) and then the gun is actually REGISTERED in your name.

 

Atleast, that is how I last remember it when I lived there :)

[npgunner]

No, you're right about everything you said. 

 

But I figure if LA can take the guns "no questions asked" (let's be real ... meaning: illegal), then I'll hand out 'free' higher value gift cards, and not ask questions about the gun that magically appeared in my back seat.  :woohoo:

[TrickyNicky]

[quote name="xRUSTYx" post="869261" timestamp="1356564402"]Private sales aren't legal in Cali I don't believe.   You try & do this, and you'd be going to prison unfortunately :(    All guns (at least in my understanding) purchased have to go through the "Cool Off" period of 3/5/10 days (something to that extent) and then the gun is actually REGISTERED in your name.   Atleast, that is how I last remember it when I lived there :)[/quote] 10 days, ALL transfers required to go through an FFL. Technically even loaning a gun to someone is supposed to be done through an FFL. One funny thing, a guy I used to work with almost a decade ago was convicted of felony charges about three years ago. Last year he was cleaning out his house and found a GP100 he had bought and forgot tucked away in his closet. Not wanting to violate his probation (or another federal law) he offered to sell it to me on the cheap. I insisted we go through an FFL and if there was any legal issue at least it would be found out and we were attempting to do everything right. I fully expected the gun to get flagged or something but the transaction went through just fine. We advised the dealer of the issue and his advise was simply to treat it like any other transfer and for the seller to retain his copy of the paperwork indefinitely to show that he was no longer in possession of any firearms. Why he needs the paper work when they can simply run the serial number and find that it is now registered to me is unclear but whatever. I do find it funny that a convicted felon was able to remain in possession of a firearm for over two years, shows just about how well the whole registration thing really works doesn't it?

[Caster]

I don't care if LA implodes on itself. The only reasoni would hate to see this is it gives them ideas and designs on other places as well. If comiefornia wants to slit its wrist, I feel we are obliged to stand by while it bleeds out.

[npgunner]

I don't care if LA implodes on itself. The only reasoni would hate to see this is it gives them ideas and designs on other places as well. If comiefornia wants to slit its wrist, I feel we are obliged to stand by while it bleeds out.

Here's a solution: 
1. California (and the East Coast) can float away into the Pacific Ocean.  Eventually they will funnel into the Pacific Ocean garbage patch and can clean it up while they're out there.  That will make them happy.
2. The upper north east can float away to Europe.  That's where they all want to live anyway ... so they will be happy.
3. The rest of us can stay here happy knowing that most of the 'problem' (still haven't dealt with the Chicago problem but ...) people have gone and our freedoms are secure

[Garufa]

Here's a news flash:  Cities in TN do this all the time as do many other places in the county.

 

I'm still waiting for someone to carry through with "I'm gonna stand across the street and buy everyting" that's been thrown about here every time one of these feel-good events happens.
 

Edited December 27, 2012 by Garufa

[GoneBallistic]

Here's a news flash:  Cities in TN do this all the time as do many other places in the county.

 

I'm still waiting for someone to carry through with "I'm gonna stand across the street and buy everyting" that's been thrown about here every time one of these feel-good events happens.
 

Next time you hear of this in TN, kindly let me know and I WILL capitalize on it. :up:

[Caster]

[quote name="GoneBallistic" post="869303" timestamp="1356568176"]Next time you hear of this in TN, kindly let me know and I WILL capitalize on it. :up:[/quote] Jennings, lorcin, raven, ect.

[Garufa]

Next time you hear of this in TN, kindly let me know and I WILL capitalize on it. :up:

 

Just keep checking the Commercial Appeal or Tennessean for Memphis and Nashville scheduling. 

[Guest FIST]

[quote name="npgunner" post="869289" timestamp="1356566505"]Here's a solution:  1. California (and the East Coast) can float away into the Pacific Ocean.  Eventually they will funnel into the Pacific Ocean garbage patch and can clean it up while they're out there.  That will make them happy. 2. The upper north east can float away to Europe.  That's where they all want to live anyway ... so they will be happy. 3. The rest of us can stay here happy knowing that most of the 'problem' (still haven't dealt with the Chicago problem but ...) people have gone and our freedoms are secure[/quote] I wouldn't want the whole north east to go. New Hampshire is pretty gun friendly if I remember right.

[Dolomite_supafly]

The problem is California has been the petri dish for all other gun control legislation. You can point at any gun legislation in any other state and find its roots in California. California probably did the first but backs as well.

Any future legislation on the national level will be based on laws already on the books in California. And as TricktNicky has said, all private sales must go through a FFL in California. I suspect that will be the next step taken on a national level. Well that and the addition of those guns on California's DOJ list to the NFA registry.

Dolomite

[Mike.357]

I really do not understand why this stuff is so upsetting to people.

 

Gun owners or possessors willingly turn them in.

 

I like guns and enjoy owning, shooting, and handling them as much as anyone.  But a gun buy back does not affect me or any of you at all.

It is not illegal, immoral or forced upon anyone.

 

And every time something like this is announced people post up that " we oughta go stand on the street and offer cash"  Yet no one here has ever done it that I am aware of.

 

heck people, worry about crap that matters

[Moped]

Seems like there some guys that tried to buy guns at a buy back here in Knoxville, several years ago.

[c.a.willard]

My issue with gun buy backs is that their anonymous nature tends to have a lot of people turning in stolen firearms.  This is good in that it gets guns out of the hands of criminals, but bad in that these guns may or may not be returned to their rightfull owners and offers a easy way for criminals to sell stolen property.  It also stands to reason that it will only cause more thefts and the likely distruction of guns used in crimes that could have been usefull evidence.  

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I'm sure the quality of those turned in weapons is sub par junk, for the most part. They will hold up one or two nice, shiny

guns and say "We've been doing good".

[GoneBallistic]

I really do not understand why this stuff is so upsetting to people.

 

Gun owners or possessors willingly turn them in.

 

I like guns and enjoy owning, shooting, and handling them as much as anyone.  But a gun buy back does not affect me or any of you at all.

It is not illegal, immoral or forced upon anyone.

 

And every time something like this is announced people post up that " we oughta go stand on the street and offer cash"  Yet no one here has ever done it that I am aware of.

 

heck people, worry about crap that matters

The thing that bothers me is that some gun owners actually do this. Not that they don't have the right to do so. It just doesn't make sense. And the only reason people say "we oughta go stand on the street and offer cash" is so we can get good deals on guns. Not because these people are commiting some cardinal sin.

[Jonnin]

pure profit.  Take a pot metal .25 worth $50 bucks, its an automatic, and you get 200.  

[GoneBallistic]

pure profit.  Take a pot metal .25 worth $50 bucks, its an automatic, and you get 200.  

I took automatic to mean fully automatic. as in Class III. Maybe they meant semi-auto. That would make a little more sense.

[c.a.willard]

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=8932055  The video is worth watching.  Shows some of the firearms there getting.

[xRUSTYx]

Cars lined up around the block ?!?!?! WTF?

 

Terrible

[rugerla1]

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=8932055  The video is worth watching.  Shows some of the firearms there getting.

Unbelievable! Well, considering where it is, I guess more believable. I'd like to know the percentage of those that came from the rightful owner.

[GoneBallistic]

Unbelievable! Well, considering where it is, I guess more believable. I'd like to know the percentage of those that came from the rightful owner.

You and me both. Tell me this program doesn't motivate thievery of firearms by deadbeats just looking to get their next fix.

[Jonnin]

You and me both. Tell me this program doesn't motivate thievery of firearms by deadbeats just looking to get their next fix.

 

Well thats a moral delimma.  The buyback with no questions asked DOES get them off the street --- whereas without it, any stolen guns would continue to pass around from thug to thug, possibly resulting in someone (innocent or not) getting shot.  But it also rewards stealing them to sell to the buyback folks -- an assured and safe fence for the goods, the government!    Hmm. 

 

The government may be onto something here.   Crookfare, we can call it.  Anything stolen can be sold to the police for a bit.  The cops turn around and sell it back to the owner at that same price if the owner wants it.  Unclaimed items are sold later, whitewashed serial numbers and laundered, in an auction.  Use that to fund the program....   of course the loser is the victims of the theft, but what a system .... :doh: