TN. Public School Security?

[Dennis1209]

Based on the recommendation put forth for armed school security?

 

Personally, I believe there are better solutions but in conjunction with a more restrictive access to school buildings, it's a step in the right direction. How could Tennessee fund such a program for its schools without raising property taxes even more?

 

I'm not familiar with the Tennessee public school systems but was involved with the school system from which I hail, Cahokia, IL. For several years the Cahokia School District was second from the bottom state wide and had one of the highest school property taxes. It's not much better now. They even had a student murdered on their property and their solution was the standard feel good rhetoric and non effective eye wash.

 

When I went to public grade school back in the day, you had a principal, vice principal, one janitor, a dietitian, a few cafeteria workers and the rest teachers. The teachers doubled up on P.E. and other extra curricular activities and were compensated accordingly. It worked well, as somehow me got my sixed grade deploma  :rock:

 

I don't know if the Tennessee school system has the pork and waste the Illinois school system has but... They had THREE vice principals that did not teach but only did meaningless administrative duties, each taking down a little over $100,000.00 per year! I won't go into all the other unnecessary wasteful positions created by the teachers union, etc, however, and there's always a however...

 

Take a position or two that is a waste and hire a couple of off duty local police officers that want second jobs to supplement their incomes for school security. There might even be a reduction in wasted taxes and would provide on the spot immediate security for our precious children.

 

There's always room for improvement and making the most of the tax dollars the public school system receives.

 

Just the musings of the chemical imbalances occurring in this old mans brain.

[Raoul]

I think locked doors and outside security. I also think that uniformed officers making a regular appearance in schools is a good idea.

[Dustbuster]

we had it here in nashville but due to budget cutbacks,school resource officers were re purposed for something more important......cough....

[Will H]

I agree with the NRA that a bad guy with a gun is stopped only with a good guy with a gun.

 

I am in favor of removing the gun free signs and allowing teachers with permits to carry as long as they stay concealed and use frangible ammo to avoid possible ricochet.  If you trust a school to educate and help guide your child then trusting them to carry is not a big stretch.  

 

I think that we could do this quietly, without a lot of undo attention and make it a little more risky for savages to attack schools in TN.

[Raoul]

Just remember, most teachers will never carry a gun. If you've actually known any teachers you will understand that it's not in their makeup. It's not who they are.

 

Some of us are dumb enough to be what's called brave. Some of us are people dedicated to teaching children. They are just as brave as the person we recognize as brave. But they will never condone violence. I've been married to a teacher for 35 years. She would throw herself in front of a shooter to protect "her" kids without even thinking. But she is not wired to be proactive.

This is something we have to remember about schools and teachers.

[gregintenn]

I thought the gunbuster stickers on the doors were their security. :shrug:

[E4 No More]

Just remember, most teachers will never carry a gun. If you've actually known any teachers you will understand that it's not in their makeup. It's not who they are.

 

Some of us are dumb enough to be what's called brave. Some of us are people dedicated to teaching children. They are just as brave as the person we recognize as brave. But they will never condone violence. I've been married to a teacher for 35 years. She would throw herself in front of a shooter to protect "her" kids without even thinking. But she is not wired to be proactive.

This is something we have to remember about schools and teachers.

Funny, the last two teachers that I've met have HCPs.

[dlm37015]

i grew up in another time .i drove a pick up to high school evey day from the time i was 16 it had a rifle or shotgun on the rack in the back window all the time

[Raoul]

i grew up in another time .i drove a pick up to high school evey day from the time i was 16 it had a rifle or shotgun on the rack in the back window all the time

No mas brother. When I was in HS I brought a shotgun to school once and put it in my locker because I was going hunting after school.

[Spiffy]

Cant we just get some of the 16 guards and extra USSS agents at Obama's kid's school?

[Oh Shoot]

All news to me. I thought we had armed guard in all elhi schools already.

- OS

[Dustbuster]

There is a way to fund school resource officers.Its called non violent offender monitoring.It can save a county 1.5 million per year when used effectively.

[Mike.357]

All news to me. I thought we had armed guard in all elhi schools already.

- OS

 

A couple of weeks ago we got a call from Cameron's school saying he had hurt his arm in the gym.  Not knowing the extent of the injury I went to his elementary school to see for myself if he needed further attention.  He was fine btw.

 

But what I did notice is I walked right into the school office, the only people visible was a nice older lady and a Knox deputy who had his face buried in a laptop.  If I had been up to no good he would not have stopped me.  From there you go through an unlocked door right into the heart of the school.

And moments after speaking to the lady about the boy and waiting for him to come to the office the cop left the place and drove off.

 

Did not seem very secure to me.  Seems the cop should be outside seeing what goes on where he may be able to head off trouble.  And I should not have been able to walk right in.

 

I believe armed guards are an answer, but not one who is only there part time and not paying attention anyway.

Edited December 26, 2012 by Mike.357