Firearms as Christmas Gifts?

[xRUSTYx]

I have a few friends that are Pro-Gun, but simply don't have the funds to get a firearm.  What are the legalities of this?  Would this be considered a "string" purchase?  To my knowledge, the people I plan to buy for, aren't felon's and can legally posses a handgun.  Would it only be a string purchase if I had prior knowledge of them not being allowed to own a firearm?

 

Anyone else planning to buy a firearm(s) for someone this Christmas?

 

 

[Chucktshoes]

No, it isn't a straw purchase. It is perfectly ok to buy a gun as a gift.

[xRUSTYx]

Perfect!  Thanks Chuck!

[Oh Shoot]

Giving is same as selling as per federal law, as long as you have no reason to believe the person is prohibited from ownership, give away.

 

And under TN law, you can even give minors firearms for lawful sporting purposes (but not sell to them).

 

- OS

[xRUSTYx]

Very interesting Oh Shoot!  Thanks!

 

Now, as far as minors -- Can they only be given long guns, or can they also be given handguns for sporting purposes?

[Oh Shoot]

Very interesting Oh Shoot!  Thanks!

 

Now, as far as minors -- Can they only be given long guns, or can they also be given handguns for sporting purposes?

 

Long guns and handguns. Law just says "firearm".

 

"...firearm was loaned or given to a minor for the purposes of hunting, trapping, fishing, camping, sport shooting or any other lawful sporting activity"

 

Can also privately sell a handgun or long gun to an 18 year old

 

- OS

Edited December 14, 2012 by Oh Shoot

[Guest TankerHC]

Firearms can be given as gifts,including to a minor , it specifically states so in ATF I 5300.2 pamphlet (Youth handgun safety act) ,. However, state laws apply and you might want to look it up because I "think" it might apply only to relatives, that you cant give a firearm as a gift to a friends kid. On that I am not 100% sure, but think that may be right.

Edited December 14, 2012 by TankerHC

[Guest Mad4rcn]

My boys love getting firearms,but they're 25 qnd 19.

Who wouldn't at that age,right ?

 

Actually I love getting them at my age...lol

Edited December 14, 2012 by Mad4rcn

[Guest parris001]

I've given one as a gift for the last three years. This year I'm passing along my trusty P239 Sig to my son-in-law. In 357 Sig, I do believe it was the first one in the Nashville area. Bought it way back when from Jumbo Sports......

[Hershmeister]

Can I be your friend?

[Oh Shoot]

However, state laws apply and you might want to look it up because I "think" it might apply only to relatives, that you cant give a firearm as a gift to a friends kid. On that I am not 100% sure, but think that may be right.

Nope. Better you should look it up before posting.

- OS

Edited December 14, 2012 by Oh Shoot

[Guest TankerHC]

Nope. Better you should look it up before posting.

- OS

 

Nope what, please clarify. Not only have I looked it up, I spoke with an female ATF agent in Biloxi about it. Exactly what I was told by ATF "We dont deal with minors and handguns, thats on a state by state basis". Try picking up the phone and calling ATF, then you might be informed.

Edited December 14, 2012 by TankerHC

[Oh Shoot]

Nope what, please clarify. Not only have I looked it up, ....

 

 

There is no TN statute that minors must be gifted guns by relatives. A legal suggestion without even verifying statutory existence is far from helpful.

 

- OS

Edited December 14, 2012 by Oh Shoot

[Guest TankerHC]

There is no TN statute that minors must be gifted guns by relatives. You do a disservice by legal opining without verifying statutory fact.

 

- OS

 

 

I didnt LEGAL OPINE anything I said "you might want to look it up because I "think" it might apply only to relatives, that you cant give a firearm as a gift to a friends kid. On that I am not 100% sure, but think that may be right. Reading comprehension escapes some people.

 

BTW, since you challenged me on it, I decided to look up TN Gun laws on minors. Here is what TN law says, find it yourself "It is unlawful for any person to sell, loan or give a firearm to a minor."

 

Your TN law also says "It is unlawful to possess a handgun for persons:

• Who have been convicted of a felony involving the use or attempted use of force, violence or a deadly weapon.
   
• Who have been convicted of a felony drug offense.
   
• Who are under 18.

Edited December 14, 2012 by TankerHC

[Oh Shoot]

I didnt LEGAL OPINE anything I said "you might want to look it up because I "think" it might apply only to relatives, that you cant give a firearm as a gift to a friends kid. On that I am not 100% sure, but think that may be right. Reading comprehension escapes some people.

 

Do you have a comprehensive list of laws that you "think might" exist?

 

- OS

[Guest TankerHC]

Do you have a comprehensive list of laws that you "think might" exist?

 

- OS

 

 

Maybe you ought to try going to the TN Gov. Website and read it for yourself, its clear you dont know what your talking about. You can find it in TN http://www.state.tn.us/tccy/tnchild/39/39-17-1319.htm (TN 39-17-1319). Its a pretty easy read.

 

Im done disputing it with you, its easy to find the laws. They are there for a reason, educate yourself. As I stated in my other post, you may want to check the laws yourself, they vary state by state.

Edited December 14, 2012 by TankerHC

[Oh Shoot]

Maybe you ought to try going to the TN Gov. Website and read it for yourself, its clear you dont know what your talking about. You can find it in TN http://www.state.tn.us/tccy/tnchild/39/39-17-1319.htm (TN 39-17-1319). Its a pretty easy read.

 

That statute has nothing to do with gifting firearms. Try 39-17-1303 - Unlawful sale, loan or gift of firearm -- from which I've already quoted in this thread, and which 39-17-1319 does not contradict in any way.
 

Im done disputing it with you, ....

 

On that I am not 100% sure, but think that may be right.

- OS
 

[Guest TankerHC]

My final repsonse. The OP said "To my knowledge, the people I plan to buy for, aren't felon's and can legally posses a handgun."  then "Would it only be a string purchase if I had prior knowledge of them not being allowed to own a firearm?"

 

TN 39-17-1319 covers ownership of a handgun by a minor. You have made absolutely ZERO points and are simply trolling for an argument. I wont play that game. As I said, I never said anything other than "you might want to look it up because I "think" and "I am not 100% sure", Now go troll for an argument with someone else. Im done with this conversation.

Edited December 14, 2012 by TankerHC

[Oh Shoot]

My final repsonse. ...

 
Beginning to doubt that.

TN 39-17-1319 covers ownership of a handgun by a minor. ...

 
No, it doesn't. It covers physical possession and use of a handgun by a minor. As already stated, 39-17-1303 covers gifting/ownership.  Neither statute is mutually exclusive, neither is contradictory of the other.
 
It is legal to gift a firearm to a minor for lawful sporting purposes, which has been my only contention. Why you continue to ramp up your antagonism in an attempt to deny that simple and easily verifiable statement is beyond me.
 
- OS Edited December 14, 2012 by Oh Shoot

[RobertNashville]

I have a few friends that are Pro-Gun, but simply don't have the funds to get a firearm.  What are the legalities of this?  Would this be considered a "string" purchase?  To my knowledge, the people I plan to buy for, aren't felon's and can legally posses a handgun.  Would it only be a string purchase if I had prior knowledge of them not being allowed to own a firearm?

 

Anyone else planning to buy a firearm(s) for someone this Christmas?

I gave a 1911 to my then 13 year old nephew last Christmas and I'll be giving a Ruger 22 to my 13 year old niece this Christmas - technically, I guess the firearms belong to my sister, their mother but I see no problem with it and neither did my attorney. :)

[Guest TankerHC]

OS, Ill defer back and apologize for even continuing this argument with you. Reason being, took a look at your profile and some of your 15,000+ posts. Your not trolling for an argument. Your just a cranky old fart. :taunt:

[Oh Shoot]

... Your (you're) not trolling for an argument. Your just a cranky old fart. :taunt:

 

In this case, a factually correct cranky old fart, hence the reason for the effort.

 

- OS

Edited December 14, 2012 by Oh Shoot

[Chucktshoes]

OS, Ill defer back and apologize for even continuing this argument with you. Reason being, took a look at your profile and some of your 15,000+ posts. Your not trolling for an argument. Your just a cranky old fart. :taunt:

That's is accurate, but you left out the part where he has a better working knowledge of the gun laws in this state than pretty much anyone else on the forum without a J.D..

[Oh Shoot]

That's is accurate, but you left out the part where he has a better working knowledge of the gun laws in this state than pretty much anyone else on the forum without a J.D..

 

Well, thanks for that, but I don't deserve it -- I try not to "interpret and advise" regarding the numerous gray areas of TN (or federal) weapons statutes, merely state the obvious parts that seem to require at most a grammar school education level to understand. :)

 

- OS

[xRUSTYx]

I gave a 1911 to my then 13 year old nephew last Christmas and I'll be giving a Ruger 22 to my 13 year old niece this Christmas - technically, I guess the firearms belong to my sister, their mother but I see no problem with it and neither did my attorney. :)

 

Very nice! 

 

Anyone else planning to gift firearms this Christmas?