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[Oh Shoot]

Speaking of unions:

 

The NHL players are trying to dissolve their union in the ongoing fiasco. And the owners are going to court to try and keep them from doing it!

 

Says a lot about a employee's union when their opposition wants to keep it!

 

- OS

[DaveTN]

Unions have outlived their usefulness. Time for them to die.

It’s a freedom Americans enjoy; one I served in the military to protect. No one is twisting anyone’s arm and making them join a union. If the majority of workers in a company don’t want a union; it’s gone…. that simple.

 

Many companies don’t have unions because they don’t need them; the owners are concerned with the safety and health of their employees, and pay a fair wage. But some don’t. Some right here in Tennessee is the reason unions are still around.

 

In the spirit of full discloser, I am not in a union, haven’t been for many years, and have no desire to work in one. But working in manufacturing I have travelled all over the country and have seen many examples of why we still have unions. I can take you to places right here in Tennessee where the owners are killing their employees. They get by with it because their employees fear them, need the work, and many are illegals.

[Will Carry]

    I have heard the rich 1% called "Job Creators". Well I am a "Millionaire Maker"!  I work hard and I work smart. If you hire me....I'll make you rich! All I want is a roof over my head, food in my belly and a chance for my children to prosper. Plus...weekends off. Payed vacation. Health insurance, payed sick leave, a 401K and or retirement benefits, a safe place to work and enough money that if a manage it well, can live comfortably.

   The American workers owe a lot to unions. Because they became as corrupt as the 1% they fought against, they have fallen out of favor. They will be back when we need them again.

[jb980]

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It’s a freedom Americans enjoy; one I served in the military to protect. No one is twisting anyone’s arm and making them join a union. If the majority of workers in a company don’t want a union; it’s gone…. that simple.<br />
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If you have to join a union to work a certain job or at a certain company, that sounds like they are twisting your arm.

The majority of union workers that don't want the union dissolved either don't care that their high salaries are increasing the cost of production to a level where it would be more cost effective to move the company to another area, or country where there are no unions to contend with, so that whatever the product they are making can be affordable enough for the consumer to purchase, or feel that they have "put in their time" and can now skate by, doing the absolute minimum amount of work required to continue to receive there benefits and salaries. Why would the consumer pay exorbitant prices for comparable goods?

I see absolutely no reason for government workers to be unionized. If there are budget cuts that would require good but over paid employees to be laid off or fired, so that the services can still be rendered, then the unions are only protecting the workers who will eventually be the reason behind the loss of that service or an increase in taxes to cover for the budget deficit.

All that I can see that unions are accomplishing anymore is higher taxes, higher cost of living, and a decrease in consumer spending on domestic products that have comparable quality, less expensive, foreign made, competition. Edited December 19, 2012 by jb980