carry on property owned by a university

[monkeylizard]

This is a law that needs to be changed because everyone is probably breaking the law at the gun club when the trap teams come to practice.  Why should we be breaking the law when it is a private place and on top of it a gun club?

 

Yes techincally you're breaking the law when the school kids are shooting at a school-sanctioned event at a gun range.

Nobody but a total moron police officer would make an arrest.

Nobody but a total moron DA would prosecute.

Nobody but a total moron judge would hear that case.

 

If you live in a place with gun-hating bed-wetting the-sky-is-falling morons on the police force, in the DA's office,and on the bench, then maybe it could happen. One call to the local TV station's "investigative reporter" would generate so much bad press for all authorities involved in that chain that none of them would want to risk it. Then a call to Matt Drudge to get that story on the top of the national talking points and it gets even worse for them.

 

 

 

On second thought....that might be a good way to get that law changed. Any volunteers? :hiding:

Edited December 13, 2012 by monkeylizard

[JayC]

Monkey, the issue is bad laws which aren't enforced are the worse kind of laws to have on the books.  They allow for selective enforcement...

 

More importantly, they don't have to charge you, they only have to write a letter to TDOS and have your permit revoked for life.

 

And while elected officials like the DA or a judge might bend to public pressure, some nameless administrative "judge" working for TDOS doesn't care about any of that.

 

Also, it's a HUGE risk, we're not talking about a slap on the wrist if they do charge you, we're talking about a felony conviction, or losing your permit for the rest of your life.  Not something I personally would want to be the test case for.

 

A much simpler solution, is to just deny access to school groups, or refuse to be a member of a range if they allow school groups to use the range...  When schools can't get access to ranges, they'll help push for more sanity in the gun laws.

Yes techincally you're breaking the law when the school kids are shooting at a school-sanctioned event at a gun range.

Nobody but a total moron police officer would make an arrest.

Nobody but a total moron DA would prosecute.

Nobody but a total moron judge would hear that case.

 

If you live in a place with gun-hating bed-wetting the-sky-is-falling morons on the police force, in the DA's office,and on the bench, then maybe it could happen. One call to the local TV station's "investigative reporter" would generate so much bad press for all authorities involved in that chain that none of them would want to risk it. Then a call to Matt Drudge to get that story on the top of the national talking points and it gets even worse for them.

 

 

 

On second thought....that might be a good way to get that law changed. Any volunteers? :hiding:

Edited December 13, 2012 by JayC

[me04070]

I rarely post, but when i have the collective wisdom of this group has always made me glad i did. Thanks to all for your insight. I am going to "conduct myself accordingly"...

[Guest RevScottie]

Without it being posted in some way how in the world are you supposed to know if a location is owned by a college?

[Guest bkelm18]

Without it being posted in some way how in the world are you supposed to know if a location is owned by a college?

 

Ask?

[QuietDan]

Ask?

Don't ask the question if you can't stand the answer.

 

It may be the law, but it's nearly unenforceable.

 

As others have said, it's really stupid to have laws on the books that are not or cannot be enforced. It leads to enforcing the law on people or groups of people you don't like and that's tyranny.

[Guest RevScottie]

Ask?

Seriously, I walk into an office building I'm supposed to go door to door and make sure that nothing in the building is owned by a school? Colleges have extension offices, recruitment offices, shared spaces,etc and there is no reasonable way to know where they are all located.

[JayC]

Without it being posted in some way how in the world are you supposed to know if a location is owned by a college?

 

According to the Attorney General, the site doesn't have to be posted, you just need to know...  yes the law is really that crazy.

[Oh Shoot]

According to the Attorney General, the site doesn't have to be posted, you just need to know...  yes the law is really that crazy.

 

Yep, on one hand the TN statute says that school property must post, even specifies minimum sign size and wording.

 

On the other hand, there's nothing in the statute saying that their not posting exempts you from prosecution for breaking the law in the first place, unlike federal statute for carrying in federal facilities, for example.

 

- OS

Edited December 14, 2012 by Oh Shoot